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Change Leaders Masterplan Live October 1, 2020 — Day 1
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So I want to say welcome to now I’m not sure that you knew that this was going to be the change leaders master plan live weekend, which is an implementation event, three days, when we really spend time together going over the big picture of what change leaders do, what were what is going on, the kind of impact that can be made, could be made, but not really just about the kind of impact that you want to make. Because that’s, that’s really up to each one of you. But we get into the understanding the process of that, or the journey of that impact.
And some of the key elements of it and some of the the important components that you can really uplevel your your skills in, but make a massive difference to where you end up to the kind of impact you make. And so I know for some of you this is really building on the six, the six weeks that we’ve spent together some of the content that we’ve gone over some of the experiences that you’ve already had with the homework and the exercises that you have already been given. And this time putting it all into the these three days and spending it together and doing some of the little bits and pieces that we will do in small, you know, we’ll have some little have a little breakout session, although with this many people it might just be a working session all of us together, you know, with me not talking. So that so that you can get a you can hear from one another. And you can try some of these things out. So again, I just want to say welcome to change leaders master plan live. And part of what we want to do is dig into this change leadership perspective. In the context of the 21st century. You know, for some of us, not all of us in this room. But for some of us, the 21st century is a thing, it’s different than the 20th century where we spend a lot of our lives, where a lot of the systems in our or in our world, we’re actually shaped and created. But now those systems have moved on into the 21st century, when we have everything that is dramatically different. But the systems and the habits and the institutional, whether it be at the government level, you know, at our local council levels, even in some of our mainstay institutional levels are still shaped and structured back in the 20th century. Even in our educational institutions, the thinking about how to educate, and how best to do everything is still powerfully shaped by the 21st century. But so many of those things have changed. And the realities of the 21st century and
we’ve seen
that radical change happen very quickly, right in front of all of our eyes just this year with COVID with so much changes so quickly, and it can. But all of the institutions and the way we do everything wasn’t ready for it. And so much of what’s going on is we’re grappling with reality, we’re trying to figure out how to work together. And we work together as we’re social beings, we work together as social beings,
through
our institutions in and through, because that’s how we work together. They’re the, they’re the mechanisms, they’re the you know, the the kind of the cellular bodies for the way we as human beings function together. But this still, by and large, still 20th century kinds of structures. And that’s part of the reason why it’s so hard to adapt and change. And so we’re wrestling with the ghosts in the closet from years gone by, as well as trying to deal with the realities right in front of us. So this kind of an I want to just pull up a one of my favorite little
pictures that
let me get out of
this
and find this and I’m gonna To share the screen, I want to share this little image with you because it’s really an important one.
I hope
this works. Here we go, you can see this, right?
So
in this 21st century, and especially since I mean, it’s really only been since what 2009 is when the smartphones really hit society, and they kind of the iPhone, smartphone, not just a phone that could text, but that could have apps that could get you connected with other people that could bring the information right into the palm of your hand, really only began Good grief in 2009 What’s that that’s now 1011 years ago. And since that time, the technology evolution and the technological impact on day to day life on communications to the extent now we’re seeing live playing out the radical, the impact of this kind of technology in America’s in America and, and global politics, right today, the technology evolution that has increased capabilities, it is increased access to information. It’s given us new levels of knowledge, not always new levels of wisdom, and and capacity for, for being truly you know, and human, but has escalated. Incredibly. Meanwhile, as I was talking about before out traditional structures, they been gradually lumbering along in the regular fashion, as, as they always did, slowly changing, upgrading themselves a bit at a time, gradually moving forward. And part of the reason for the
slow movement
is very valid.
Our governments,
whether or even car makers, or our global institutions, need to have certainty need to have need to be reliable, need to be consistent, need to be grounded in laws that evolve slowly, thoughtfully, and not fast. But when these traditional structures do not adequately adapt the things that they need to not everything, some of those things really need to need to say, solid, but they need to allow for the engagement of this new these new technologies to be built into their systems and to be able to impact them, we end up with this growing gap in our society. And this is what I just call it the gray zone, because well, I made gray circles. So it’s kind of the gray zone. But it’s increasing, it’s not decreasing. And this is the space into which transnational organized crime dives into. That’s the space into which in grows, increasing anxiety and uncertainty because because people are sensing the break between the difference between what is possible and where we are, and the certainty of our old traditional organizations. And at some level, at some level as human beings, we do like we do like that certain do it. We have both. We’re constantly wanting to change, and we’re constantly wanting comfort. Because we want to do the same thing today that we did yesterday. I mean, there’s a there’s a there’s a comfort in familiarity. Now we so we like these
differences.
And yet, we like new novelty. We’ve got these parts of us as human beings, and they’re built into you know, even the core of our emotions. We fear when when something alerts us and shocks us, if it’s if the change is too quick, our natural responses fear. If nothing changes, isn’t there’s no surprise, then we tend to get bored. Because another real part of our emotional makeup. One of the six basic emotions, one of them is fear. And one of them is surprise. We love surprises. I still remember Grace’s face, when I told her to push that golden button, I mean, just very, it was just so simple, but it’s so built into us. And, and you know, it’s the same kind of thing, when, when we, we love surprises at our birthdays at celebrations, when we open a gift, we don’t know what’s inside, and the whole opening and the whole boxing sim thing that’s on on YouTube, people unbox. But they do videos about all kinds of unboxing, from clothes to shoes, to the latest shiny object of, of, of technology, whatever it might be. It’s another very human element. And as we move on into this, the program that we’re looking at, I never want to get away from the fact that at the core of the changes that where we see in the world, and that, that most of the people who are here on this call, and those who can’t be here, because of their internet, or whatever, and those who would like to be here, but it’s the middle of the night, they are those who are serious about making the changes that need to be made, they see the pain, they see the problems, they see the possibility. So in the 21st century, you know, we’re living in these uncertain times. So what what I want to do in the course of these three days, is look at this big picture of what is going on, as well as seeing the role of change leadership, and therefore getting down to really some of the quintessential
elements
that are the most important for us as change leaders and as human beings. So that means yes, at the personal level, because it doesn’t matter who we are, at the core, we are a human being. And we are involved in all of this. And we are going out there to make a difference in the world. And we do that through more external structures, through programs, through through organizations, through advocacy, through law through whatever it might be through engaging with other with other entities. But we want to really look at some of the things that you can do differently through small shifts and changes, that magnify that gives you the biggest bang for your buck. I mean, it’s just ever all of us we want to make, we want every effort that we make, to make the you know, to give us the biggest return on our investment to give us you know, the biggest difference for that effort. And sometimes even in especially in the in the social change world. Even seemingly, you step back and you think that in the big picture was a small effort, it can take enormous personal sacrifice at times. So I want to help you see how when you make that enormous personal sacrifice, that you can know that it’s being put in a place that makes the biggest difference, not just hoping it will make the biggest difference. Because a lot of the time we just have to go on quote unquote, on our faith on our hopes on our expectation on on. And, and yes, there are many times we have to step out into thin air. And by the way, stepping out into thin air can be really fun. Um, but you still have to trust that gravity works and your parachute opens and all those good things happen so that you will actually land safely, but it can be extremely thrilling, stepping out into thin air. It really is. But, um, but there are times, especially in your life, you know, jump out of an airplane takes a few minutes. It could be the rest of your life. But you know, mostly it’s usually just a few minutes. But some of the investments that you will make in your work will take days, months, weeks years of your life and to avoid mistakes that take that those days, months years of your life to not be quite as as helpful as they could have been, that’s, you know, very, very important stuff. To me, it’s important stuff. Why? Because I’ve learned some of those hard lessons. Things that I, I didn’t see right in front of my face, that I hope that in the course of this time, whatever it is that I hope you take on, please understand that some of these have been hard won lessons. And so the value of them I hope can save, even if it saves you a week of your life, how many hours is that you get back how many hours 24 times seven, anyway, quite a few hours, that’s, you know, either a whole lot of sleeping that you could do, or it’s a whole lot of playing, you could do, or it’s a whole lot of something different that you could do in your life. So the point is, you know, even if it’s only even if I can only save you a week of your life, that’s that can be very valuable. Now, these sessions, as we go through the program are going to build one on top of the other. And, you know, at the end, I’m going to invite each of you at the end of the end of the program, or the end of the day, each day, if you want to have one on one time to talk about anything, then I will make that time for you Just Just so you know. So that if you want to either understand how some of these things might play out in your own work or your own life. Anyway, so we can we can schedule that kind of that kind of time.
Um, so.
And, for me, as I speak to you, as I crafted this program, and I know, this is just the beta program, and this is a small group. And so that makes it very personal. And I’m very grateful for each one of you, for those who are who couldn’t even make it here today, James and funmi, who were in the program, who are living in, I was just saying to, to grace before we started that, for me, it works lives and works on the largest floating slum in the world. You know, I didn’t even know there was one until I met for me. In in Lagos and James works out in in a country area of Nigeria, where the the local river there and he’s passionately working on water issues, because his local river there is what is used for irrigation is what is used for laundry is what is used for drinking is what is used for storage is what is used for everything. And of course that as we know creates health issues, creates livelihood, you know is anyway we don’t need to go into the details of that. But he is just so concerned about the the lives of the people around that river that that is their resource. We all know water is so essential for life. So there’s, there’s that kind of, of work that he’s doing. And I know that you
are
pivotal
to the lives of many other people, each one of you, in your your work, whatever it is that you’re doing, you are pivotal to the experience that people have in their lives. And I know you know, we’ve all heard this kind of thing before, even just from the perspective of physics, and I often go back to that that was my undergraduate degree, you know, the, the farmer’s daughter, who likes to know the practical things of life and how to get things done more of a, an engineer than have a ending up at the UN and dealing with diplomacy. But there you go, who knows where you end up.
From the physics point of view,
the reflection of the sun in your eye that happens to shoot out one photon into space, can travel for hundreds of millions of light years to we don’t know where. And that’s just, you know, one tiny little bit what we do, and that’s that’s, you know, that’s just existing. But what we do even in our social spheres, it ripples out, we it’s cumulative. We don’t know exactly what kind of impact we’re going, we can’t always see it. And yet, we also want to be not just happenstance impactors of the world. Most the most of us and so many people, even the people who go into medicine, the people go into all kinds of things. careers helping careers, the emergency workers. You’ll hear from chaplain Maurice later on how, how many lives she has impacted. And we’ll hear, you know, perhaps why she went into that, but move. So many of you, I know, are not just wanting to make a little bit of a difference you want to make the biggest difference that you possibly can. Now, not everybody is you know, so in other words, we want to be high impact individuals, not just Well, you know, we’ll see what we can do today and sit and twiddle our thumbs. That’s not what moves your hearts on mine.
So
not all of us are going to figure out quantum theory, we’re not all going to fit, you know, when, and whoever there was, first of all the quantum theorists and then then those then there are people who are working on the quantum computers. And when they become on when when we end up with quantum computers on our desks, what that’s going to unleash in terms of artificial intelligence, and heavens, on the nose, what else, you know, the world is going to change massively. And part of all of this is just to say, what you are going to see the changes that you are going to see in your lifetime are going to be massive. What I’ve even seen in my lifetime has been dramatic. I speak to my dad, who is 94 years old. And I know he began watching his dad work on a farm with farm equipment pulled by horse, pork, horses, teams of horses. And I knew my grandmother who died at 100 over 100. And she lived, you know, she was born in 1904, something like that. And she went from living in literally, you know, the kerosene light at time to where she began to see computers emerging, what people have seen in their lifetime. And that escalation, that diagram that I showed you the differences and which way they’ll go and exactly how it’ll play out, none of us really know. But but just the sheer possibilities of difference are enormous. So being high impact individuals in that gray zone. Because that gray zone, actually one of the benefits of that gray zone is it means it’s kind of like the new wild west, the positive side, but
the positive side of that
gray zone is that it creates a huge area
for leadership,
need for leadership. Because what happens most people a lot of the time, just don’t quite know what to do. They want to, but don’t quite know what to do. So having even simple systems that you can rely upon, that you can trust to take you forward into those into that uncertainty into that volatility into that ambiguity into that complexity.
When others are still thinking, what should I
do, I know I need to do something, but I don’t know what to do. If you have even the simplest of systems that allow you to have some extra degree of trust and capacity to move forward. And lead. take that step into seemingly thin air but it isn’t always thin air. We know gravity works. We know we’ve got a parachute. We know we packed it, well we know what to do. We practiced it, we’ve done it, then then you can do things that others are not prepared to do. They just don’t know. They’re not bad people they just
don’t know.
So
being able to be a high impact person is just so many times just being having that. That courage, having even simple systems that you can trust and utilize and to step out and to take action when others don’t. That gray area is ripe for leadership. When you can turn that fear. You know, I assure you the first time I jumped out and I go back to this because it was such a powerful experience when I jumped out of an airplane and I would rationally tell myself because I would ride my motorcycle up to the top The drop zone. And people would say, But aren’t you afraid of jumping out of an airplane? Like? I’d say, Yes, I say, but rationally, I’m probably more likely to die riding my motorcycle up to the drop zone than I am jumping out of an airplane. So there’s the rational elements of all of this stuff. But by the time I got to the edge of the open door of the plane, and the instructor yelled, go, I’m going to
put the planes working.
There’s nothing, there’s nothing out there, but finance, and fear, the gut fear. But somehow, I guess the training kicked in on my own, just drive kicked in whatever it was. And I pushed my way out the door. And it took a couple of jumps. But then my favorite place was the excitement was actually diving out of a plane. And getting into that thin air, and then feeling having that experience that thrill. And part of why I say that is because yes, we face we face fears, we will face fears. But again, part of what we are dealing with as we deal with even the simplest things such as our organizational development, and changes that we make in our daily habits, we are aware that one of the first things we’re confronted with is our natural reaction to it’s it’s a little barrier there of our own human nature of fear. But part of part of what we’re what we do is find ways where that fear becomes fuel for us. It’s not just something to back away from, but to observe it to knows, and then to learn how to function. And in fact, to then even see that perhaps some of that is excitement and thrill. And I mean, how many, how many of you want you to put in the chat. Anybody who’s who’s been to a, a theme park, and has written on one of the roller coasters or the big? The big anything’s anybody? Just say me in the chat. I want to see that you’ve
up?
Yep. Danielle has been there.
Yep.
Yep.
I suspect even Maryland’s been on a ride.
He funny. I hope has been on a ride one of these times. Anyway. Also, I want to make sure that you all know where the chat box is. I assume you do. But you know, sometimes people don’t.
But
why do you go on those rides?
Put in the chat. Why did you Why do you, you know, put in there
more than you wanted to print?
Okay. Okay. So, but why did you go on a ride? Was it fun? Was it a thrill? Yeah, it’s fun. But when when you’re going up that when you’re going up that right, up, up, up, up, up, up, and you’re getting to the top, and then you’re getting right at the top? And then you can’t even see what’s over the other side? How do you feel? Is that is that? Is that fun at that moment? Or is it a little bit more akin to fear, raw fear. And then, and because you know, then then you come over the top, and you go down. And then you realize you’re in the you’re strapped in, you feel that you’re safe. And then you come down and you go, there’s a level of relief there. Because, Oh, God, you survived that. And then you go around, and then you come up, and then you could you do it again. I mean, we’re crazy. I mean, it I mean, people spend thousands and thousands of dollars to scare ourselves almost. And then and then to do it again. So there’s a very real part of us that really loves this process.
of, of,
or, and I think part of what we enjoy about theme parks is that we face our fears, and we overcome them. And we realize we come down the other side with a big smile on our face. We can succeed through that process. So
So part of what we’re doing here is we’re looking at ways that we can really face some of those those fears, find some of those systems and and find ways To really make a difference in people’s life now, just recently, there was somebody speaking to a large audience of people who were the that I heard, was considering there, you know, what careers there are people who wanted to make a difference in people’s lives and so that the thinking about what career Can I have, that can make a difference in people’s lives? And so they were thinking about anyway, the, the, the conclusion was that there were three main ways, but one of the important things that they that the person who was speaking said that, yes, there were, there are these high impact individuals. And so a lot of these people were considering, you know, becoming a doctor or considering research or considering considering different things that they could do in their life. Because people make decisions, you know, how can I make a difference? Where can I go? What What is kind of natural to me, what do I like? What am I strengths? But how can I go and and people are naturally strategic, we naturally think about where can i if we if we want to make a difference, where can I make that biggest difference? And so, you know, part of it was interesting, because they looked at, for example, doctors in developing countries, in in developed countries today actually make a smaller impact on people’s lives than those who are doctors in developing countries. Because so much in our developed world, it’s so much more as dependent upon not just the doctor, but the nurses in the hospital and the insurance and the the environment and the food that they eat and whatever else whereas a doctor, for example, there was a doctor Neyland, who operated in Bangladesh, Burma, or much earlier last century. And through a simple innovation that he had, of
mixing salt and sugar in water
that he gave to people with diarrhea, was able to save that one person saved about half a million lives. So you know, you’d have to say, Yeah, he, he, he made a difference. It made a massive difference in so many people’s lives. And then, then that, then there’s this guy. I’m not sure you’ve heard of call Landa Steen? Anybody heard of Colin decine Thumbs up if you have or, or shake your head. Okay, so he was the guy who simply figured out blood groups saved in a saving and probably will continue to say 10s of millions of lives. Because, you know, blood transfusions, and they were understood that it was good, but sometimes I worked and sometimes people ended up dead. But by understanding, you know, that, that there were blood groups, so he was a researcher, and he came up with that, I’m sure he didn’t quite know the impact that it would have. But he was a high impact individual and has literally saved millions of lives. And then there’s an I think there’s a movie out now about this unknown, Soviet Lieutenant Colonel, who probably quite literally saved all of our lives. And we don’t even by and large, most people don’t know his name in 1983, not so long ago, but some of you guys would never have even been born probably. And that’s thanks to this. Stanislav Petrov, a lieutenant colonel in the Soviet Army during the Cold War. Yeah. And he was on duty in a Soviet missile base when an early warning system detected apparently incoming missile strike from the United States. All of the protocols told him to send the message through and to fire back. But he decided against the protocols and to to stand down on a return strike an unknown Stanislav Petrov, who probably quite literally saved thousands of millions of lives and our world today. So yeah, we might not be a Stanislav Petrov. But you might be you know, we don’t, those kinds of high impact individuals are probably unexpected. We don’t we don’t grow up Planning to be those. But there are a couple of other ways other than being those remarkable individuals that make a massive difference. And so I’m coming back to where we live here, you know, 20th 21st century here in our society as it is for now. The ways we make social impact that through how we donate money, because money is basically energy, and fuel for change. How We Do you know, what we advocate for in our lives and change the shape and the thinking about people, either just within our own spheres, how we shape our social groups, the thinking, what we advocate for, and how much we change, thinking around certain topics and things. And that can go all the way up to advocacy at the global level in terms of global policy types of advocacy. And then the other main way that today we can make social impact and make a difference is by helping others to be more effective. And that’s what we’re doing here. And that’s what you do in your work.
To help
you are in the helping profession in that sense of helping others be more effective in their lives, and to live better, and to live well. So by training, educating by whatever it is, these are the main ways that we do make a difference. And this and so this is what this is part of what we are really doing here. And so you are very, very central to this. And part of part of what I want you to to be very serious about in in our time together is is how committed you are to upgrading your skills and capacities. And to never think, yes, you’ve got to go out there work, yes, you’ve got to sacrifice your time and make the effort and go the extra mile, so many times. And I want to make sure that you are always investing in yourself, your education, your health, your emotional health, your your heart, your enjoyment, your satisfaction. Because if you are at that center of the change that you are making, the more vibrant and vital you are, the more vibrant and vital, it’s just kind of natural, logical stuff will be your impact in the world. So never underestimate the importance of making sure that in the midst of all of the other things that you do, that you also invest in yourself, because you are the center of your little world, Your World, Your little universe, it all you know, you’ve noticed, right? When you travel from New York, to California, the center of your universe changes from New York to California, you see everything from California and perspective, all of a sudden,
the center of your universe moved.
I mean, and it’s you know, you are the center of the universe and your universe includes everybody else, but just you know, in a slightly different place. Anyway, that’s just kind of, sorry, my little thing but anyway, what so what I want you to do is I want to I want you to this time, I want you to type into because I want you to make that physical effort. I want you to say put it type into the chat box, I’m committed. I’m committed to improving myself or I’m committed to up leveling myself, I’m, I’m committed to becoming more I whatever it is that you know, that that you would like, for yourself. I’m committed to myself, you can even just say I’m committed to myself.
I’m waiting for some chats. Here we go.
Maybe you want to be committed to high intensity living, or maybe you want to just high intensity impact, but you don’t have to live high intensity all the time. It’s really important that downtime. Okay, you find a good we’ve got one committed person here. Okay, another one. Great. Educating and learning and educating, realizing my potential cool because that’s one thing that I have Learn is is the amazing potential of human beings is is remarkable. So I’m
so
now consider leaving a legacy Marilyn Pitt, I’m committed to invest in myself wonderful.
Good,
because it takes commitment because there are times, there are times when it’s nice to do it and it’s easy to do. And it’s that level of when we’re committed when it when we go that extra mile. But when that gets us to, to go out that door when there is no ground that we can put our foot on, that actually gives you the greatest moments of excitement and thrill and value, because you then have a whole new experience a whole new foundation of, of expert, what becomes expertise, that does not happen by doing the same thing you have always done. It only happens when we dare to go out into new territory, break new ground and do things differently than what we have done before. And that is true at the personal level at the organizational level. And you know, at the at the social level. So that commitment, I’m really happy to hear and see that. Now, one thing is sometimes when I’m I’m Do you all know where the raise your hand button is? Because and this is just some of the the housekeeping stuff under under the participants. There’s a you can
There we go. Yeah, so we finally knows how to raise his hand. The good thing about it, can everybody go into the participants area and raise your hand? Yeah. Great. And then and because the value of that one for me is that and you can lower your hand now, or I can clear it clear all for you. The value of that is if I’m in the middle of talking something and I’m all in my head. If you’ve got any questions, if you type them into the chat box, I might not see them. Because I’m I’m going to be in my head. But then when I turn my attention, and if I can see that you’ve raised your hand and that you’ve got a question about some part of what I’m doing, then I will answer you. Additionally, what that does is it gives the hand raised leaves an order. So whoever raised the hand for so I don’t necessarily skip over anybody. And this is not as important perhaps in small groups. But in larger groups, it’s, this is important. And there may be times down the road when each of you are doing and increasingly, the chances of you doing group meetings on zoom and the like, are going to increase rather than decrease for a little while yet. And even when COVID disappears, I’m sure a lot of this stuff will still stay with us. So these are just little things that that you can know about as well for down the road. So there is so there’s that as well. So um, and I think I saw Daniella knows how how thumbs up and clapping, they don’t allow for thumbs down in that in that’s and that’s in the that’s just at the bottom of your screen under the reactions area. So it’s I think sometimes it’s just helpful to go out most of you know the zoom stuff, but you might not know some of the things. And it’s always good to know. And of course everybody knows how to mute and unmute themselves. So that’s, that’s about it in terms of in terms of that. So most most of that, that’s the kind of the housekeeping for now. Now, we’ve got a few more minutes in this session. So let me go over then.
One of the things is we get
just in terms of how we operate as a group here. And even for those who perhaps tune in later on, and watch some of the videos later on,
is that
in some of the sessions, we may do some, you know, some sharing of stories. And part of it is there, you know, and we’re not going to get into really, really in depth stuff here. I don’t think but sometimes stuff comes out. And the point is, I want this to also be a safe space for people. So I want everybody to honor the whatever individuals share in our time together over the course of this weekend. And just to fully respect one another’s experiences The things they do share. And, you know, if you hear a story from somebody, then later on, perhaps you cannot, and you would like that would be a useful story for you to tell either anonymously, you could do that, or you know, and anyway, without identifying the person, that’s one thing, or if you wanted to ask them, if you could, you know, use that story, then please go ahead and do that. But my main point here is to please us use this as a safe space as a place where you can ask questions that might be difficult for you. Or not, you know, I don’t know. But I do want to create this place this time together as a safe space so that you feel like whatever you shared here will not go beyond the space. And I would like each person to honor that
for one another.
And I want to do now one little exercise with everybody. And it’s going to require some
I’m going to share a screen Let me pull up
my screen.
Let’s get rid of that.
Good.
Okay, so then
give me a moment. It’s almost getting there. Now. This is a little.
Okay, so here we go.
So
what I’m going to do,
is I’m going to give you
you don’t even know what I’m going to do.
I’m going to give you all one minute and I want you to starting at one I want you to find systematically find 1234 you know the numbers. So starting now I want you to and then when I tell you to stop, I want you to tell put in the in the chat what number you get to go.
You got 30 seconds.
I probably should have only given you 30 seconds, but anyway.
543210 Yeah, 16 1714 1617. Yeah. So Whoa, Fernando. Wow, cool. Look at you.
29. Okay, now,
what I want you to do is I’m going to show it, I’m going to pull it up on the screen again. Now, what I want you to notice this time, and I want you to do it again. And maybe I’ll just do 30 seconds. And so we just have to have the the total number there to give us the same kind of an outcome or double the outcome in 30 seconds to give you an equivalent number there. But what I’m going to I what I want you to notice when I pull that up, is that I’m going to give you a very simple system to follow to help you find those numbers. Very, very simple system. So I want you to notice, see these dots if you were to because I can’t draw I should have done this a little differently but I didn’t okay wants you to draw line through there, like an X on the middle of the screen through there and there. Now there is one of these numbers in each box. So if you were to draw that line, so in other words, you look for number one in this area, or this area. And then at number two in this quadrant, then you look for number three in this quadrant, then you look for number four in this quadrant, and then four, five in this 678 910, simple system. I want you too, okay, you you understand what I’m saying. So I’m, you still got to go find those numbers with your eyes, once we start going. And we’ll just do it for 36 seconds. But now you’ve got a little system to use start. 210? And, and so what number Did you get to just in 30? seconds?
Yeah, look at that.
You You got done in half the time?
At least, you know, as many as
Yeah, I mean, you almost double every almost everybody double their, their capacity to find those numbers,
right.
The power of having a system.
So that’s part of what I and I think, you know,
Grace and fani. And all of the others have have heard me is kind of saying from the get go, you know, as as we’ve gone into our impact and influence formula is the importance of having systems simple, doable, ones that you not just doable, but done. ones that you use systems in place that can multiply that can double, triple and in some cases, which is why, why those systems that I gave you just can powerfully multiply your capacity to impact. Having a simple system, rather than no system at all. The simple system for your personal life, as simple system in your office, as simple system in your organization. Choosing then the most powerful systems are are really important in your life. You finally had mentioned he had to have to leave, he’s got some things he had to do. But you’ll catch up on this later on. But I
hope that that
simple little exercise kind of neat, right? Simple, simple, but it’s very instructive about having a system.
So
no, I just before we you know I’ve got it, I guess in terms of our about agenda. The rest of this time we’ll break we’ll take a break at nine 930 my time anyway, on the half hour This time, we’ll take a 15 minute break, then we’ll have a 75 minute session. And then because I’ve kind of condensed the day because I was concerned about if our Nigerian friends were going to be coming in that would have been to go to five o’clock in the day would have been really, you know, a long day for them. It was a long day. So so I’m trying to condense everything between eight o’clock and 2pm pacific time which is 11 o’clock and 5pm try to be normal for grace and reasonable for those in in grace and funny and reasonable for those beyond. That will will have very short, you know, even the breaks might end up shorter than 15 minutes, but they’re mostly bio breaks, go and get yourself a drink and stuff, that kind of stuff and do whatever you need to do stretch, make a phone call that you have to make whatever sort of thing, but lunch is going to be short, it’s going to be a half an hour, but that’s, you know, pretty much all you need. Oh, I’m telling you, it’s odd. Um, and then and then we’ll have another 75 minutes session time with a chaplain Mara, she’s got some really juicy stuff and, and some time together, following up on that. And then after, we’ll have another break, and then we’ll have another session before, you know another one hour session after that, and then that’ll be the end of the day. So the each each day today, tomorrow, and the following day will follow that basic pro that basic structure throughout the day. So it’s not a super long day, but I hope it is still enough time to really allow you to get absorbed, you know, absorb a lot of this stuff. So now what I want to turn to before we finish out this session is just reflecting on, on, you know, I just introduced the introduced it, that’s a new word introduced the idea of systems and how important they are. And part of what then you have to say it was well, that little, you know, x divides that block of numbers, that was one system but but when we’re talking about social change, what kind of systems do we really need. And so before we jump into some of the the core elemental systems, that that will be a little bit familiar now to our impact and influence formula students. But hopefully, even all of this that we’re going over helps them see from a different perspective than what they saw before. They jumped in more at the granular level of how to do or what each one of these were and how to do them to some extent. But this, the way we’re doing it here through the master plan is trying to give you the bigger picture look at at att so that you could you’ve got the bird’s eye view of what’s going on here. So you have the master plan, view. And so we want to look at what kind of system now, one important piece that I want to remind us all is that no matter who we are, we are human beings on a journey through our life. I still remember when I you know first became a mom. Yeah, I never been a mom before I became one. And so, you know, Hara was faced with this. I want to tell you all the details of how I got faced with this thing, but this little first babe. And one day when he was still newborn, I looked at him and I said Ozzie because that’s his name. Well, sort of his name, said, Ozzie. You’ve never done this before. And I’ve never done this before. So we’re just going to have to work it out together, okay. And I’m sure he agreed, because that’s what we did.
But
the point there is
none of us really asked to be born but we were women, we find ourselves in this world. We go
through we
were first children, we grow we grow up in, we don’t even we don’t always we have don’t, we don’t have choices about everything. But in the bigger picture and the way we the way humans, the way we talk to ourselves, it’s a life is a journey. And it’s a journey into the unknown. Because we’ve never been there before. Every moment of the future has never been never for anybody ever anywhere. We have perspective on it based on looking back and seeing and gaining that perspective by looking back and through our own experience. But in reality we’ve never stepped into into each new moment. It’s a genuine journey. So for a decius way back when in the Greek mythology, and you know, you know the stories the story of the you know,
most most of Hollywood
follows the arc of the hero’s journey and all you’ve heard of. Some of you have studied those things. And when I was, I always did physics and math and chemistry and biology and whatever else in high school, so I never English literature and stories and all that sort of stuff. Were not my stuff. So I discovered all of these things later on. But, but the hero’s journey, which is the story of the common man, the common person, the common experience in life, then goes out to explore the world, and then is faced with a problem. And then has challenges and difficulties. And yes, we all say to ourselves, oh, and it can’t get worse. Oh, but yes, it does. And then it gets worse. And then we say, oh, but No, it can’t get worse. But yes, it does. And then it gets worse. And then, you know, right. In the end, in the very last moment, the hero’s journey is you know, he finds his way out, something usually happens, and there’s a breakthrough. And we have those breakthrough moments. And then we have the AHA experience. And then something really wonderful happens in the end. I mean, that journey is, is a pattern that we all experience in some parts of our lives. You know, at the micro level, at the daily level, you know, even sometimes our days are like that, we wake up in the morning full of hope, and we feel good, then we open the door at work. And then you faced with all of these emails that you weren’t expecting and the challenges and the problems, and then you think it can’t get worse. And yes, it does, you get more emails, and then something else happens. And then you know, and then it then it can still get and then by somehow you get all of the things taken care of. And by the end of the day, you can close the door and walk away and feel like I’ve accomplished something and Yes, okay, it’s, it’s good. Now I can go home and take a breath. But so our life, human life is a journey for all of us. And why is it important to understand this, and that’s an it’s important to understand this, because this is what when we work with people,
were
helping them take journey, a journey that we are in, in our own little ways, we’re trying to provide them with systems that help them go through that journey a little bit better, and foster so that they are more able to do well in their life. And it’s just really important to keep that that kind of that backdrop of understanding that this is what we’re helping people do is journey through their life. And you know, what you want for your life you want for your life to be meaningful, you want it to be wonderful, you want to have highs and lows, you want to climb to the top of mountains, you want to ride those rides, you’ve got aspirations that I don’t know about. You’ve got dreams, I, I, I probably would say, Oh, really, you want that. And you look at me and say you ever wanted to do that, you crazy. You know. And so they’re very, very, very unique. Many things are extremely unique. But it’s just so very important to remember that as we deal with people as we create our systems, our structures, as we work with people we are we are helping people take a journey through their life. And as human beings, one of the things that I don’t go into a lot in, and I won’t go into a lot in this in any depth,
but I do want to just
a little bit of the context of of
for journey that we that we go through as human beings, allow me to share this little diagram and I just don’t want to get into the complexity of going into the tensilica underpinning all of this that I do and you’ll see it later I’ve got I’ve got my I put together what I call the trans cillian scotian of the trans aliens framework, which is a way of understanding this, the big picture of this journey, this human journey, but a critical element that is just often forgotten. In as we get into our corporations. Our businesses are organized And even our systems of impact and influence, we very quickly get into figuring out our logical systems and structures that make sense that are easily able, you know, we can put into our little diagrams and our flow charts that make logical sense and and help us to get intellectually from here to there. So that we’ve got a picture plan and understanding of that system, in our mind, which is critical, and essential, and powerful. And alone is insufficient. Which is why in so many businesses and corporations, even some of the even some of the biggest invest today, they so deeply struggle with employee engagement. Because there was one person I spoke to maybe three months ago now, a guy, brilliant guy.
I mean,
I happen to know he’s in Mensa and was very cute, because one of my former lifetimes I, he and his wife, they both met in Mensa and I, I actually married them out in a zoo. But anyway, I didn’t marry them. I mean, I’m married. They got married. And But anyway, so as I say, I’ve got lifetimes of stores. But anyway, so um, but I was interviewing him about stress in the workplace for a particular reason. But he’s a brilliant guy. He’s a developer, he works in, in
security areas for
and he had, you know, a sense of what, what is it? imposter syndrome? How can somebody so smart feel like he doesn’t know what he’s doing, and shouldn’t be where he is? How, unless there’s some other pieces, he’s obviously got the rational capacity to understand and to analyze and to figure stuff out. But his gut experience his his personal one of his challenges was imposter syndrome. Now, it wasn’t necessarily all his fault that he was feeling that way. But his organization was not providing him with the ways that he could feel connected to the mission and purposes. So he could not see how what he was doing, was contributing to the bigger picture of the organization. He didn’t know why he was there, he knew he had certain skills and capacities, but, but why, and how.
So many organizations are like that.
And I can’t understate and the loss of employment, the loss of employee resources when when people go into work, because they feel like they’re not connected. They’re not valued. They don’t know why they’re there. But they’re there for their own welfare, ie the paycheck. They’re there to get paid because they need that money to survive, they might need it for their family for their rent for whatever it is. So they’re there. And they do what they’re asked to do, but they’re not investing the full amount of their creativity, their insights, their their energy. Do you remember a time when you were really on fire about something? Did you just kind of put in the hours and then five o’clock time and you shut shut it down? Or did you go home you thought about it on the train or you you thought about it on the way or you however you get from here to there or you woke up in the middle of the night thinking Ah, you know, this is what you can when you’re on fire, the amounts, it’s just natural, the way we when we are we’re driven that’s that’s just who we are we do that we invest and the amazing resources that can be tapped from each person, volunteer employee, leader, non leader, observer, stakeholder of any kind can be tenfold than just clicking the timer in order to get the hours up. And that happens when people don’t feel connected. When their life they do not see the connection between the hours The journey of their life and the journey of the company, the organization, the whatever it is that they are putting the hours into, when they when there’s a disconnect. And what is lost, not just in? You know, I mean, some people will Yeah, okay. So some people in those situations might sit at their desk and look like they’re working and actually be doing heavens only knows what on their computer. But, but most people at least put in the hours. But I’m looking more at what the human potential that could be being invested in any endeavor. When they are connected, ignited, and valued and aligned with, you know, where their values, their insights, their understanding are lined. And right there, the resources, the human resources, the energy, the creativity, the innovation,
that can be tapped.
When we align our journeys, the organization’s journeys, our stakeholder journeys, and get them all in sync,
so that
those journeys, those life journeys,
become more like
an, you know that those few laser beam lights that line up, and are in sync, and become a powerful beam that can literally cut through diamond that can make the difference. Those small groups, those small teams, and they only have to do, they don’t have to be huge. But just imagine if you had a huge number of them all in sync and working together, then that’s that’s how you make massive, massive impact
in the world.
And big organizations can do that when they do it well. And that’s how some of the big organizations have tapped that kind of creativity, and human resource in their organizations. So how did Google go from zero to Google? You know, in the space of 20
years,
it wasn’t an accident.
It wasn’t an accident.
It was very well planned. Maybe in the beginning, it was accidental, or they came across those systems. In the beginning, there was one particular person who brought those systems into Google. And that’s one of the systems that I that I do teach. But because they systematize that and that became their culture, then it was no accident, that Google eyes now there’s a lot of things that, that they could still do different than that, you know, that’s a whole different question. But what they did was no accident. And it’s important that we understand that. And the piece, I’m getting back, I’m circling around, I circle around it that I wanted to show you is this piece that oftentimes in the system of okrs, that I get into later on, on the under the my tags system. And and that’s just gobbledygook to some of you who are new to this, it’s and I’ll I will make sense of that later on. But it what is important is that those okrs actually be without them fully knowing it. But it paid attention to some of this little piece that I wanted to bring to your attention here. What What is this? Okay, so this is just my very simplistic way of looking at the three aspects of our, what I call our human drivers, and it’s connected in with who we are, and now how our brains function, how we function as human beings. This is not
in a way, some of the some of this is not optional.
It’s we’re hardwired with some of this. So we’ve got, again, don’t take this, this is not completely exactly the way the brain functions, or at least you can’t find the lizard area and then then then the limbic area, and then the logical area when you can sort of but it’s not that simple. And it’s not that clear. But there’s an evolutionary kind of structure to it. There’s a human functioning kind of structure to it. So it’s just a simple way of systematizing and understanding how we function as human beings to help us get a better grip on ourselves to understand what’s going on, so we’ve got you know, almost functional level out, you know, bodily functions, our reptilian complex or survival stuff, you know, we don’t tell our hearts to be. We don’t tell our lungs to breathe. That’s all and and our fight and flight our survival mechanisms are built into our physical body. A baby doesn’t have to be taught to cry when they when they’re hungry, they there’s we’ve got basic survival mechanisms built in, they are there, they impact us, when we experience stress our survival system is being activated, we have to understand that this is impacting us, whether we want it to whether we think it’s a good idea or not, it is this is our l one all lizard, our lizard brain, I call that lizard brain.
And then this then is the
you know, brains, we actually do have the you know, historically there’s this evolutionary comm piece that sits that came in later on the Paleo mammalian complex, which is usually the limbic system, it deals without our memories, memory, processing our emotions, and how all of those things that kind of take place underneath the you know, kind of below the, I say be below our eye level, because most of the things we quote unquote see in the world, we see and talk about and think about throughout the third part are a neo neo mammalian complex or more logical neocortical area, our logic our language area of our brain that we we tend to do most about communication through the the logical mechanisms of language. We through poetry and story, we access those and, and metaphors, and all of the different ways that we communicate, we access all of those, the more the emotional, and, and we reach in and touch those other areas of our life, we can even shock or, you know, stimulate our survival area through our language. But most of the time, we tend to, you know, do most of our thinking about the world through, you know, above the surface and below the surface of the ocean, the oceans that we are, and I like the ocean, because I spent roughly 10 years on the on the water and
all kinds of stuff. So that was another one of my lifetimes.
But, you know, many times people underestimate the power that because we’re always busy seeing the waves on the surface of the ocean. And they are powerful. And the waves alike are a logical world that we see through language and we understand. But the emotional and survival components of who we are, as human beings tend to be pre rational,
tend to operate with
or without our thinking about them.
And when we don’t take them into consideration in how we operate in our organizations and teams, we, we lose we either Miss stuff.
Don’t see it.
Boy, I didn’t see that coming.
Anybody ever had a?
An I didn’t see that coming moment?
Or am I
the only one? I can see a couple of nods. Okay, so,
yeah, okay.
Most of us have had a moment when we didn’t sit in probably the chances is because we were missing some of those cues and clues that are out there. But we need to learn how to look for them because they don’t just, somebody doesn’t say, Hey,
I’m triggered, they just
get triggered. And you didn’t know that that was going to happen. And all of a sudden you’re dealing with the fallout of it, or you’re the one falling out whatever it might be. You know, and even there when we understand that these things happen, we don’t always know how to
deal with it.
So you know, these are these are facets of, of human life. But I I bring this about because it’s really critical to understand that we are all
journeying through life.
And we’re not just having this logical nice pre determined by anybody. experience we can’t just met them. out plan and then logically go through and do each step. Even though we can, we can do that. But the the forces that are at play in the process of us doing that are multiple. And I hope that you can remember that, that those elements of the human being of each one of us,
of each one of
us, your stakeholders, your beneficiaries, your your board members, your co workers, your your parents, your children, your brothers and sisters, the those that were in fact dealing with all those elements of their lives, we don’t have to be responsible for all of those aspects of their lives. And we’ll get to a very important section that which is why I’ve invited chaplain Maryland to spend a whole session on this. But but it’s really important that we understand that this is an important that all of these elements are very real parts of your journey, my journey. And so as we talk about creating stakeholder journey maps, because we want them to go from being interested and curious to being committed, I’ve wanted you to go from the place where you’re interested in curious. And I hope that by the end of these three days that you are even way more committed than what you were when I first got you to type into the into the chat box, yes, I’m committed to, you know, to myself, I hope that you can have a whole new level of commitment to to yourself into your work by the end of end of this weekend. But to understand that, that even to go from interested to committed is a journey. And that in effect, too. And so we can’t just simply expect people to Well, I told them, never, ever got frustrated with somebody because you told them what to do, and they didn’t do it.
Maybe because there are a few other pieces to the whole story.
Maybe you have to factor in a few other little bits and pieces.
And
yes, it might be a matter of telling them again. But it also might be a matter of doing a few other things that will help them make that journey that you can provide. And that you can give them the option to take up and that in the end it will be their option. Especially if they’re adult. You know, Ozzy didn’t have much of a choice but to say,
Yes, we’ll do it together, mom. But
absolutely, he’s got he’s fully fledged with that choice now. So that was just a matter of time. But, um, yeah. So yeah, I just really wanted to you to see that underpinning every little systemic thing that we get into every little chart that we draw every little element that we go into and go about. And it’s really important to see that you as a leader
as a,
making it an impact in people’s lives, the more that you can understand that you are also addressing and helping people to become more effective in their own lives. At the you know, those fundamental below the surface of the water levels have been life as well. So it’s important that they understand how to make sure that the physical that foundation for their life, their bodies, their health, their well being at that level, is sound and solid and good.
And their emotional. well being and fitness I refer to as emotional fitness, it’s kind of like, we all know how important it is. We all say yeah, I want to get fit, you know, but what about emotional fitness? Yay, you know, that’s something that is not practiced as much you know, we talk about things when they get to the sad and sorry stage IE, mental health. But what about just simple emotional fitness? It’s it’s good and part of what we will do part of you know, I think especially you could say putting it into a category chaplain Marilyn will address that area of, of emotional fitness in some in some respects that resiliency that is needed. So that’s I’m gonna I’m gonna break now give you give you a few minutes break and then we’ll come back again. Bio break time, but I just wanted to have you be able to see that. See the connection between being changed leaders What’s going on? In the world, in the big picture of what’s going on in the world, but there’s massive places that you can make a difference. And there are key ways that you can do that. And one of the really important things that helps us as individuals in each moment, you know, are having our own systems in place that allow us to, you know, turn those difficult and challenging moments of that we will face one way or another sooner or later, when we’re expecting it when we’re not in that we can turn those even challenging resources into fuel for impact and influence as we go forward into our life. So let’s take a break, go Go get your coffee, your tea, I’m gonna get a coffee and we’ll see you back.
I’m going to give you is 10 minutes
enough to get a to get a glass of water? No Grace is going I need to do other things. Okay, I’m giving you your full 15 minutes. So go We’ll see you in 15 minutes. Okay.
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So everybody get their coffee or whatever it was that they needed.
Looks like Grace is still doing some work or something and what I wanted to do. And I, I don’t know whether, let me see if I can do this.
Okay, so I have one little fun thing for us all.
I am going to share a screen with you. So I’m going to share my screen for a sort of a fun little thing. This is just a web page. thing. But so we’ve got everybody who was signed up for this program in here. Now, in theory, I’d have some prizes for everybody. I have to figure out what they might be. And it might be just a pat on the back or I can send you a an I don’t know. But anyway, you have to be here to win. And I’m gonna I’m going to do these occasionally throughout the time. And if you’re here, when I do them, and they’ll be randomly, then I will take your name. And I will think of a prize later on. But yes, so. So even the prizes are going to be surprises. Okay, so the way it works is I I spend the night I spend this.
No, and is the person in Australia.
We have a we have a winner.
But she’s not here. So I still might have to anyway, I actually do have a prize for Ann. She was the first winner. But I knew she wasn’t going to be here. So I I knew she had a hard time. So I gave her anyway. So now I’m just going to leave the names in here. So sometimes we might have to spend a couple of times to find somebody who’s actually in the room to get a real real winner.
Yay, Daniela.
I have no idea what it is. I’ll figure it out.
So there you go.
Congratulation, congratulations, Daniela, you are the proud winner of who knows what are who knows when, but I have your name down. And you’ve won. So there you go.
So thank you for coming back and joining us here.
Yeah, so I guess your 15 minutes was your lunch. Grace, I forgot. It gets a little confusing about all of this stuff. Okay, so where are we? I got to figure out where I am with my so here we are. A cup of coffee, lunch or dinner. me trying to figure out what I’m doing here. Okay. So, where are we are we dealing with journeys, life’s journeys. And I think if you recall those who are in the impact and influence formula, you remember that, that pretty much we started with a discussion of stakeholder journeys, for those who are working in, in the areas of social impact and we and we went over a number of aspects of this, we looked at it from the point of view of looking at what you know, what is a successful organization or what you know, what does it mean to be successful? As a social entrepreneur, as a social enterprise, that might be nonprofit, that might be for profit, that might be, you know, structured in any way it could be, it could be an organization that isn’t properly Incorporated, it could just be a local community of people that are working on something together. But still, people don’t want to do things don’t want to be a failure, don’t know, it’s just, that’s just natural. So what constitutes a successful enterprise and one of the one of the things that we looked at was, of course, things like, Well, today, you know, a lot of the success in the world is measured by, you know, how many gold chains you’ve got on or what kind of a car you drive, what kind of income you’ve got, in other words, it’s all comes down to, you know, the dollars. But for the for social change, for having an impact in the world, improving people’s lives, upgrading, you know, taking care of people, people’s hearts, and souls. It’s not quite as clear how to measure what is successful. Now, some have gone about doing this a number of ways. But when you get to the organizational structure, you there are there, there are ways to differentiate and to show that there are both qualitative and quantitative measures. And it’s all the more important that we take into consideration those qualitative measurements, so to speak, when we’re looking at social change. And so we looked at, like, level five leadership, and I’m not going to go into that specifically here. But what that means is, you know, a lot of corporate leaders really are more like level four leaders who are able to run their organizational mechanisms and make sure that out the bottom of that organization comes a good pot of money for their stakeholders, ie, you know, the, the shareholders, the employees, and the finances, that the company needs to be successful in showing up with a big bottom line is pretty clear. For the for those who are working in social change, there’s another level of success. And often that’s also part of the challenge for, for people working in, in politics, who are in theory there for the for the public good. Not always, but in theory, they’re there for the public good. So at the moment, we’ll look at those leaders, as level five leaders who are often not, they don’t they don’t have command and control like the military or like corporations, corporations were built more on the on the military model. And, and so they can’t the top, the CEO doesn’t have the Almighty, you know, mandate, and he can hire and fire anybody or whatever. But when you’re in political leadership, at least in democratic countries, at least in theory, but the top level leaders have to win the hearts and souls of people, they have to be able to,
they have to be able to work collaboratively with other groups of people with other nations with other organizations with other subgroups. So, but all of this is geared towards a mission, a particular men, you know, mission. So each one of you, when you enter into some kind of an organization or a social project of some kind, there’s usually a, hopefully, a clear and stated mission for that organization or for that particular effort or for that particular program. And while you are engaged in that, then met leadership is responsible beyond their own
levels of
comfort and success, so to speak, but they’re responsible to the mission to the mission of the organization to the mission the country to the mission of the public service to the mission of of the project. So, there is that concept of level five leadership that is different for social organizations than many of the corporate organizations. So there is that aspect you But coming back to and building on the fact that when you work in social organizations for social change, you might be working, for example, for me works with the women and the families and the the children of those who live in this floating slum. But there are other stakeholders, there are husbands and families, there are those who are helping provide some of the training to the women. She has a board of people who are helping her with her organization. She has those who are working in the organization, there are volunteers, and their employees may only be one employee, a couple of employees, the number, the numbers are kind of secondary to the fact that there are stakeholders, and multiple stakeholders. And so when you’re involved in social change, and also sorry, it’s important to note here also, in her community, there are traditional leaders and who are the ones who are kind of either intentionally or otherwise are effectively the keepers of the status quo of the environment within which she works. And the same is true for almost anybody, no matter whether you work, you know, I know, Daniela is helping with the the domestic violence summit at the moment, the stakeholders, there are multiple in that group. You’ve got people who are concerned about the UN, the people who are concerned about the the victims of domestic violence, there are those who work with other civil society organizations within the organization who have varying levels of interest, specifically in the area of domestic violence. But then there are people who deal with children and children’s rights, there are those who deal with women and women’s rights, there are people who deal with LGBT issues, there are those who deal with disabilities issue. So always, when you work move into and into the environment of social change, there’s a much larger mosaic
of stakeholders that are involved.
Because usually, when we want to change something, that means at some stage or another, we’re going to bump up against these other these these groups one way or another. And even when, when the different groups stated, Lee say we know there needs to be change, the realities of change, are, can be challenging. So it’s also why, and this is not to say, therefore we don’t do anything. Of course, of course not. It’s all the more reason that arbitrary action is going to probably take a lot of energy and dissipate that very precious those precious energy and resources that people have. So we do have to be focused, and we do have to have a plan. Now the I think that the summit project that Danielle is working on is a little bit more targeted and focused and constrained. And so that’s, that’s a little bit different than for example, the one that for me is working on where she is virtually living and breathing daily with the women, the children, the husbands, the community, the local government, the funders, the the board members who are supporting her and who she’s hoping in time to to multiply, you know, scale her work and do this not just in that area, but in other areas as well. And the same thing for honey who’s who’s working in a number of ways and very active with with his his people and groups. But it’s also why we have to number one, we need to be aware that all of these stakeholders play a role. We do need to be clear about who they are and in terms of our energy and resources, in terms of understanding the impact that people have. It’s important to identify the priorities of the of impact on your particular one. And for different aspects of your work, some, some stakeholders may be more important. And for other aspects, other stakeholders are more important. But again, part of this is, number one.
Don’t just know that they’re there,
factor them into your planning. And you’re thinking, and you’re working. Now, that’s easy for me to say, factor them in. What do I mean by that? Can I give you any tools for that? How do you do that?
And the most
powerful tool that I have found kind of help. It’s it’s been a merger of it’s it, you know, it’s evolved. And that is what I called the stakeholder driver.
template.
Just for a moment, I want to share with you again, to going back to just reminding you of
is that big enough that way? Daniella? Yeah.
So the stakeholder journey, as you engage people, you know, most stakeholders, when you as an individual, first approach somebody about a project, or even first approach somebody about your organization, for example.
They don’t
ignore that challenge, or maybe it is a challenge, don’t ignore it. But part of it, you could just say the challenge there is is not knowing there isn’t those always beginning, it begins with some kind of a challenge, you could say. And that is for those when you first engage them as they don’t know, you, you knock on their door, and who you unless, of course, you have some notoriety already, but that doesn’t always happen.
So
internally terms of getting them on board, one of the first things that you need to figure out other than introducing what you’re doing, and and letting people know, is understanding what to them are some of their biggest challenges, because in the end, unless you’re able to get into their shoes, to understand what they feel, are the biggest challenges and problems or are a significant, challenging problem for them that they want sold? You have to understand the challenges. Now years ago, when I first started training, NGO representatives to the United Nations about how to how to make an impact how to get out there and develop relationships with diplomats. Because actually, strangely enough, so many people in so many nongovernmental organizations who have ECOSOC status, that is, you know, affiliation with the, with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations. They go there feeling, you know, I don’t know what they the reasons why they first get their economic status, but so many of them spend all of the time only relating to other nongovernmental organizations, and I don’t quite get it. But you know, that’s, that’s what they do. So that’s, that’s what they do. So part of what I felt was so important was to even introduce to people well, you know, you can work with the diplomats. You can form work, even groups of diplomats at the UN. You don’t have to just work with other NGOs. In fact, why in the heck did you go to the UN, unless you’re trying to make relationships with other government with governments? Otherwise, you go join a big nonprofit, or civil society association of some kind, and simply network there. But since you’re at the UN, since you’re working with in an intergovernmental, primarily intergovernmental environment, why don’t you make relationships with the diplomats? Why don’t you go on make them your friends. So one of the very first things you need to to do is you need to understand what their needs are. Get into their, you know, sit with them and find out what their needs are. And then if your organization can help them with any part of what their needs are, that’s when you have the common ground and the basis to build a relationship to move forward. But you first you first you first you first and I used to call it, the Vienna Vienna cafe conversation. And it was really about sitting with them and finding out what their concerns are. This was always the first to me, the first challenge is to find out what their challenges are.
The Vienna, the Vienna cafe,
conversation, the vana Cafe is just a place where you can sit and have a cup of coffee. But the point was was to have a conversation with people and find out what their challenges are. Don’t just sit down and say, Hey, I’m a civil I have my organization is great. I do this, I do that, you know, I’m really wonderful. And can you help me? Have you ever had somebody come up to you and say how great they are? And can you help them. And they have no idea who you are. But they just want your help? Because they know that you can maybe, maybe you haven’t, but I haven’t it’s it’s it’s not very it’s not an inspiring conversation. Let’s put it this way. But so many people who are passionate about their work, are so desperate to let everybody else know what they’re doing. Without first finding out, if the person that you’re speaking to actually feels that they need anything that your thoughts, no kind of it’s, this is some of this stuff is not rocket science, but our own passion and drive, can some times, you know, blind us to, you know, the things that and then and then if we get into that habit of just saying, Yeah, if we feel pushed that we have to get our word out there so desperately, you know, we’ve got a deadline or something like that. And then we can, we can more easily make those kinds of mistakes, we feel, I’ll feel like we’ve, we’ve only got these precious few minutes with this person. So I’ve got to let them know what I’m doing. But those precious few minutes need to be spent better, some other way. Those precious few minutes, a better spent with you getting to understand them and their challenges. Because then you will first start if you’ve got a programmer, a project that really can help them you will be certain you can
plus
the chances are if you take the time, even just in a few minutes of finding out from them, what what uh, some of their, the challenges that they’re facing right now on that particular issue. All of a sudden, they will be much more interested in you. Because that’s it’s it’s part of what what builds empathy genuine, it’s again, it’s this, the stuff below the, you know, below the not below that hose, you know, I don’t know somewhere, it’s somewhere there. I know. The pre rational stuff, when we feel that the person is genuinely concerned about us, and it’s important that we are then we’re far more likely to want to reciprocate. Otherwise, you know, if somebody is coming to you and you’re busy thinking about your elevator pitch and you unless the situation is set up for that and there are situations that can be set up for that and then it’s totally appropriate. But in the first meeting with somebody that that you really do want to connect with it’s it’s really important not to just elevate a pitch them but to give them that, that foundation that heart level, pre rational, the sub surface level connections that will last longer than Just the the encounter, that will have them wanting to know more about you. And when somebody wants to know more about you, that’s when you tell them what you’re doing. And how, then also, you also by then have the context within which their concerns are, and how what you are doing can apply to them. So there’s this personalization process that goes on in that moment as well.
So
but that first encounter, you know, is right back here at the beginning. And then they begin to see that maybe you do have some kind of solution that can help their issue. But they either, you know, just in the marketplace of ideas that is in the UN, for example, or, for many people today, in the kind of public marketplace, have so many organizations, peoples and activities that are going out on out on on out in the world, people recognize that there are various options that they have to deal with those areas of concern.
And then
it’s another step. And this is just looking at kind of the stakeholder journey and there is an awareness level of this. And then there’s the capacity to act on these things. And then that the two, in a sense two aspects of the same journey. But the main point that I just want to go over here and to remind you and to just go into that a little bit more of the granular level of what we talked about before, of the stakeholder journey is that then each each journey is from recognizing, recognizing or acknowledging or discussing with somebody the challenges, seeing where the connections are, that they can be, that there are solutions to this, noticing that there are often options. But then finally, as far as you’re concerned, ideally getting them to make the decision to go with you in particular, even if they’ve got other, they may have other organizations they’re working with too, but why not also work on this aspect of the challenge with you, for example, I’m just thinking of, you know, practical ways of thinking about this. And then going into the level where they have that experience with you and in their experience with you, they are so amazed by how you deliver such an exceptional experience with them, that you become the obvious choice, but behind everything, whether it be awareness development, and then the decision process and the experience process there is this journey is my my main point here and why it’s so important that we start well and that we start with and I think what is very, very powerful and I think if funny is is has experienced it with the little bits that he’s tried out with the the stakeholder and drivers template and also grace to to even have just a totally different level of conversation with people that helps you them better understand how you are going to go about doing your work. I mean that’s that’s the it’s it’s a co creation process. That’s to me is is part of what it is is your your journey genuinely engaging with people in this way. So I would like to open this up and ask both grace and define you if you can just give you know even just a short experience just what what you discovered as you did use this and then I can make that available for the others who who are not here that template that stuff stakeholder drivers template, which again, that endeavor was to get into an understand some of those elements that I ice that taps into those three drivers the LM l two l three, the fears the concerns the the the pre rational Drivers, all of us as human beings, and not just our logical thinking about what our problem is, and tapping into those, so that as we move forward, where we’re including those concerns, in our programs, solutions, etc. So I, you know, if any, or just unmute yourself and then take it away.
Well, if I did afternoon, if I did get you correctly, the spirits have been great, I think, utilize that again, two days ago. With a, I think it was yesterday with a potential board member, we had kind of lost track two months ago, by reconnected and yesterday, a presumably 10 minutes conversation went from was two hours. Wow. So it was really an eye opener to see how such a tool couldn’t park so much that it would affect some kind of collaboration. So get into know exactly what the stakeholder does. What the challenges, ah, and also, where we could work with them to leverage on their skills, and on the skill sets that we also have. And also, it went into what they would now do to enhance the program that we’re doing. After sharing with them what we’re doing, and also what they were doing, we unpacked a whole lot of things, a lot of things went out, they took on some assignments, which they were going to do. And there’s one other assignment that actually gave but they took on to get counselors, mentors, and also gynecologists to who would be on board. So then when we have certain women who have fiscal issues, we’ll be able to send them to designer colleges who will now do the evaluation and report back. So it just went from one thing to a wonderful two hours thing and this somebody that is probably had to get that is like the interest of meeting on a regular basis is developed, because we could see similarities between the programs and then how they can actually integrate and, you know, be well developed and assimilated by all parties. So he was just amazing. I was like, wow, something that’s been trying to put together for two months because he’s not you know, we’ll have a conversation 10 minutes she’s rushing into something else and everything she’s a professor of medicine and but yesterday was like Wow, so this is a trigger words of God and also gave me an opportunity to share with that the my students that we have reached an accomplished for example, the safe haven net and nanodot Okay, we’ve secured the land is being cleared and she was like, wow, and that kind of opened a whole lot of things. So we will see sharing a few things and like you said, also having to give ear to what someone else is doing. Look at the challenges they’re facing and maybe also offer some kind of idea maybe you know, their empathy is okay yeah, we’re in this together could open a whole lot of things and begin to draw and build that bridge and also relationship between you and the person so I did experience that yesterday was just cool.
Well, I’m I’m so you can’t believe how thrilled I am to hear that kind of outcome. As you say. I think that seemingly simple tool just helps as you and you your your words were unpack and just allowed.
It just unleashed
the human the human element of compassion and hope and aspiration that comes through through that kind of engagement. That’s, that’s thrilling, wonderfully fun. Yeah. Yeah, as you say, sometimes just the tiniest little but the right thing at the right place, the right time. can do it. Amazing, amazing things. Fantastic. I’m thrilled to hear, um, Grace, you’ve had some very different experiences, but also, let us hear.
Um, well, I
yeah, I did it. And I focused it on our internship and volunteer program. So I was inter viewing current and former interns and volunteers, I’m just, I haven’t been able to really yet compile and like,
they call it really process
all of it yet and systematize and see, like the trends. You know, as Karen kind of suggests, it’s best to kind of even put it in like a spreadsheet form or some way to like, really see the patterns.
But
what did get, what it did spark was, there’s several ideas of things that I would have never considered, that were brought up in terms of like new projects and ways in which actually, like, one of the things that was coming up from a lot of interns was like, they wanted more clarity on what you know, what they would be doing. And so like, even the projects that were coming up became ideas that could be be an internship in it of itself. And so kind of like snowballing off of each other in that way, but also just relationally, it really opened, opened up the lines of communication between our office and the interns and the volunteers. Because we have three, I work in the UN Office, obviously, I’m in New York, and we have three un offices, one in New York, one in Geneva, and one in Vienna. And just like the United Nations, it’s easy to work in silos. And so by doing this project, I included the interns and volunteers that have engaged with the other two offices, and it’s really already started to facilitate conversations and collaborations on just like a relational level, which is been great. And, yeah,
yeah. So and that’s the thing is, it’s
making the effort, the the outreach, and by the doing of it has its own impact, in addition to the content of, of what goes on. So taking this kind of initiative, making that effort, with fewer different stakeholders. And as you can see, I think if, you know, just say, you know, you did a project, though, no, you could frame it as a project to do to find out from a particular stakeholder group about their, you know, their concerns what how your organization could really help or serve serve them, or what that group could do more for you, depending on the nature of the stakeholder group, whether they’re donors or whether they’re,
you know, board members or whatever. But
by taking the time with each of those different groupings, but of course, you start with your, your most critical your most strategic goal, the ones that are most pertinent to you at the time, but when you make that effort to reach out into that stakeholder grouping, then you do develop that clarity about how to bring them along that journey, not just in terms of informing them and training them on what they need to know. But bringing them along that journey from being interested and you have kind of supportive of you to the point where they become totally committed. Now, what happened with it funny is he kind of went in one, that that that kind of conversation facilitated, you know, I, I a quantum leap from the challenge to, you know, to the committed in in one move, and it shows a lot of people that they’re ready to, they’re ready to help when they when they can, but they often need a reason to they’ve got to be proven. We’re all human, we need to trust we need to feel heard, we need to, you know, it’s it’s relationships, it’s real, live relationships. Sometimes it’s as simple as leaning into somebody, when they say something and saying, Tell me more. You know, it’s it’s just being human, but we so often in our fast paced life often many, you know, culprit here half the time. You know, we’re so busy moving on to the next thing that we forget a little bit about our own humanity and how what is meaningful in our lives, and how that can leverage and massively improve even though Our greatest work related aspirations. So I’m really happy to hear those experiences. So I’m just going to go over really quickly for Daniella and Fernanda, and I think Marilyn also hasn’t seen this, I don’t think, but just very quickly show you just so go over this. I will let me see if I can find it.
He
share my screen.
Here we go.
So this is really just a template that that is created that is meant to be adapted according to whatever situation but it gives you the core elements is how to i, as I say, uncover the stakeholder drivers. And that goes back to that what I called the drivers of the L one, l two l three, it, it is just a practical way of helping us connect logically, emotionally, and even at the very visceral level with, with our stakeholders. It helps develop develop relationships, it helps us understand better, and it allows discussions that usually will not take place, we know when Hi, how are you What’s my name, your name, you know, we exchange business cards, or we you know, we haven’t seen one another for a long time or whatever it might be the very simple superficial banter that usually goes on and you know, until you trust to know somebody, but as a funny said it created it helps unpack a lot of stuff in a very natural and meaningful way. And so you just simply start with I’m going to ask you 10 questions, or you can cut it down or whatever, but some of the core elements are in the beginning. And then you tailor it according to what you really are, you know, your objective here your genuine work need with with those people. So you have to, of course, create the context, you know, what are you doing, you know, sometimes you get onto a meeting with them, and you know very little about them. So you have to get some context of who they are. Sometimes you start off with somebody you don’t even know and you ask them to, you know, would they be open to some kind of research if you’re if they’re, I’m sure you didn’t know all the interns grace, when you were doing your, you might have met them or heard their names, but you didn’t necessarily know them? And even there, what are they doing? So what are they doing in their life? Yeah, they might be an intern, but what are they studying, whatever. So you find out a little bit about what they are and in the content, and then to give a context for what you’re speaking about. So that they’re not answering everything about their life, you have to constrain it a little bit. By their, you know, by their stakeholder duties, you need to make that connection with what it is understanding what they’re doing. But then you say, Okay, so, you know, in relation to the UN, for example, relation to helping women and girls in times of COVID, whatever it might be, you get to understand what their their situation. And so, you help them then then you go on into the discussion and this
process is really
initiated by a real listening. And the questions are asked and one of the things that makes it a very pleasant process is is you’re there to listen and to hear. And it seemed like a funny his meeting rolled on into another meeting at the end of his after he got into this but bottom line, as you do this kind of a this kind of interview and research with a person. You’re what you’re doing is you’re just hearing from them. You’re hearing from them. And so it’s just very simple when it comes to being, you know, interning, when you’re when you were an intern.
What are your biggest challenges?
What are the biggest challenges that you face?
And then you stop and you listen.
You allow them to think
and then you say they might come up with something and then you say,
is there anything else?
And then sometimes they dig down even further.
Some people will come up with a huge laundry list of stuff. Some people will say something and then they’ll be quiet but and then that in those cases, it’s good to say, is there anything else? Because then they sometimes have to take the time just not only usually takes a moment, but you it’s important to give them the time in that moment to really think, is there anything else? Well, yes, because also sometimes, based on even answering that first question, now, there’s a little bit more trust, so they’ll dig a little deeper.
And
one of the things that I usually do when I interview people, I also make it clear that this information is just for me, I’m just gathering I’m utilizing, it will not be shared, you know, any further than me for for this research purpose. And just again, so that it’s you’re creating that safe space, and then you have to honor that, of course. And sometimes most of the time, the information is not going to be hidden, private or anything that shouldn’t be told. But still people are telling you things that they often probably don’t speak with anybody else, because most people don’t ask them. So it is, it can be a little bit challenging for them. And then you move on and look at the same issue in a sense from a slightly different perspective. So when it comes to being an intern, you know, what, what are some of your deepest concerns, or the biggest fears that you face? Now, maybe some people don’t think that they’ve got many fears dealing with internships, but maybe they are concerned about wasting their time, or that they don’t have been off? Yeah, I don’t know, they could be more of a time concern. Or maybe they’re a little bit afraid of going into the UN and dealing with all of these people, you know, we don’t know. But until you ask them, you don’t know. Because each of our concerns and fears in a given situation, I’m going to be different than theirs. Even my concerns in a given situation today, are radically different than in that same situation 20 years ago, so we all journey we all travel, we’ll change. And so now at the moment, and taking the time to allow a person to think well, what am I dealing with? And sometimes individuals haven’t even thought themselves about what am I What am I concerned about? What what I’m, what am I afraid of, and having just even taking those moments for them, to reflect on their own inner world can be revealing to themselves. So this process alone can be valuable to the individual, beyond being valuable to you. And that’s why it’s important that we honor and respect these relationships. And then you continue on, and then you can say, and so is there anything else?
And you pause
and allow them
to either break the silence with another idea?
Or
not? No, I think that’s it.
And even if there is something else,
that they’re not sharing,
they’ve come to the realization that that there’s something else and that they’re not quite prepared to share it at the moment, that is a level of awareness in their journey in life that is valuable to them. So again, this whole process, that’s why I called it a co creating of solutions. Yeah, may not, you know, the some of the what that person did not say in that moment may not be helping you figure out what to do in the internship, for example, and I’m just using this as
an example at the moment.
But,
but it is it is helping them you know, even maybe when you get to the next question, and maybe some of it might, something else might come out when you ask what are the biggest frustrations but you do With in your, in your organization or your stakeholder duties or whatever it is. And I often add that, you know, frustrations are often the things that you feel like, shouldn’t be happening but are happening. So it’s just a way to help people think about some other aspects that can shine a light on the challenges that they’re facing. And therefore, the opportunities for action. Because every problem is really just an opportunity for us to find a way to resolve something that’s not working as well as it might. And that is change leadership. That’s, that’s, that’s what we’re, that’s what we’re trying to do. And then, and then to get their perspective, to continue on to get their perspective, what do you want to learn about, because sometimes people want to do it, but then they also realize they don’t have all of the resources that they need to do a good job. Well, they, they can see things they need to learn that, that we’re not seeing that they need to learn. It’s insightful. So what do you want? What do you want to learn?
In order to do that better. So you know,
very clearly, when you’re dealing with, for example, a board members, it’s an historic problem for boards, you get, you get organizations who say, okay, we need to have a board, we need to have people who people know or they’re, they’re an expert in their area, people that are recognizable in your specific field, and it might be women’s issues, or it could be, it could be cyber security. And so you want to bring somebody on who’s a known name. And some of you might not need to form a board yet, but this will be good information for you down the road. But just because they’re an expert in that field does not mean they know how to be a good board member. And so it’s really important to to help people understand. So right there, you know, they can say, Well, I’m not sure what I’m meant to be doing. I’m not sure how, you know, what, what my responsibilities are or what you’re wanting from me, I’m happy to help out where I can. And if somebody says I’m happy to help out where I can, that’s probably a code word of saying, but I don’t know what you really want, or how to really help you. So right there, you beginning to see, okay, board education is needed. That is just about an, it’s an ongoing thing, because as you get new board members coming on and board members going up, as you get new interns coming in, and interns going out, you know, they’re they’re things that that even just help them understand the context that they’re moving into the environment that they’re moving into, whether it be orientation, so there’s usually onboarding or orientation that is needed. And if you don’t have those things in place, then then it’s good to get them in place. And even when you get them in place, there’s ways to there’s ways to refine them. And then even as your board changes, you’ll also then decide, and as your organization changes, then they’re also slightly different things that you want the board members to focus on, for example. So asking them, what do you want to learn, can help shine some light on some of the things but as you know, as Grace was saying, just before she, it helped her see things that that she just didn’t notice. That’s the point of this. And the point of it is co creation. And when we co create, and that’s one of the biggest problems in the whole big development, history of development in the UN, at the international level, you’ve got foreign aid coming in, there’s this huge problems with foreign aid coming into safe developing countries or whatever. This huge benefit as well. And this huge challenges, because so often, there’s not this co creation process that goes on. The people who are being helped, are not always included in the process of creating the solutions as much as is needed. And then when the big eight goes away, because they weren’t co creating anything, then any of the benefit has also just plain gone away. Whereas when you co create with people when you leave, you’ve left them with whatever it was that you built together and then they can bring in others to work with them. So you’re not just
going in and saving the world and then leaving
people to, you know, there’s a, there’s somebody that one of my mentors says, you know, it’s really important not to have the same especially in in as entrepreneurs and change leaders when he doesn’t say changes. But anyway, it’s really important not to have the Savior syndrome, you know, and there are reasons for that. And again, that’s part of the reason why I asked chapter Maryland to come in and speak about some things. Because understanding where our boundaries are of what we can do, and how and how, you know what, what we can do for within two people. But this co creation process is really such an important one, when were people who are working to improve the lives of others. And so this is just, again, a very powerful tool that I would recommend you build into and adapt and use and shape and in whatever way you can, in any work that you do, because the the core elements of it are just multifaceted, the benefits are multifaceted. And so again, you going on in and just continue on, I just want to go spend the time to go through this, because I think it’s just such a valuable tool for you to have some sense of, to practice using to get better at using to adapt and to utilize in your own context, to use it in, you know, and you don’t even have to do it formally through an interview. But even just in your conversations with people, you can come to understand some of their some of their concerns.
So
what do you want to learn in relation, and again, to keep it constrained, otherwise, the discussion can go far and wide, and you can have other conversations, and other times, but again, it’s part of how how, what kind, what would help you do this better. So it’s all about helping them become more effective. And that goes back to, you know, how to become a high impact person. One of the most powerful ways is to help other people become effective in their lives. So here you’re saying, getting them to think and sometimes they haven’t even thought about, well, what would I what would help me become more effective? You’re actually facilitating that thinking in them. And again, you know, they may say some things, is there anything else? Is there anything else that would be helpful for you to learn? Then this next question is, is going towards having them express their aspirations, their dreams, their hopes, and so I call it you know, kind of like, Mickey Mouse and the Imagineers down in in, in Disney World, but do this Imagineering task of, of, you know, if your organization was the best in the world? Or if you if, you know, what is your dream? What is if you were to wake up tomorrow morning, and everything about what you are trying to do was fulfilled? What would your day be like, what would you do, and I heard some precious precious stories from some people, when they told me how, you know, they would, they would go to the place where, you know, they had built their orphanage, and, and, and the children there would gather around and they would walk in, they would grab his hand and smile. And then they would all go off and do things together. And I mean, just very, in some ways, very simple, and yet very profound things but to understand what people’s dreams and hopes are, their aspirations, is really it’s a it’s a gift to hear those dreams and aspirations. And also to then allow them to take that moment to live in that dream and aspiration. And to think about what it would mean for them what it would mean for them, because we are meaning makers, as human beings, we are meaning makers, and it’s really important that we are able to make meaning in our lives. And again, in each of these, you can ask them what else what else and see if there is anything else and when they’re ready to move on, they can move on. Then the next question is, again, another angle on all of this is helping them think about well What? And it’s important for people themselves to think about these things, because most of the time, they don’t. Not asked or just don’t get around to thinking about it, whatever is what, what are the ways, you know, what, what would it take to help them get their way? You know, it’s one thing to have information. You know, information these days is easy. We can Google anything, we can know the answer in a split second. But stop for a moment and think, well, how could I? What would it take for me to get to the point where I could not just know that in my neocortex and be able to verbalize it in a sentence? But what would it take for me to go from where I am now to where I lived? That? Do I need to study things more? Do I need to have some level of accountability with people? You know, do I need somebody to crack the whip occasionally, you know, just ask me well, how’s that going? Do I need to have deadlines? Do I need more education on certain things that I have no idea, but I mean, part of it is is thinking about what does it really take to make that journey from wanting something to being capable and committed? and able to do that?
And, and it’s important, because people, when they think about it, you know, different people need different things, but they’re all thematic things, and usually some kind of a community, usually some human beings, we work we work. accountability is a huge piece. And, and that will come out, you know, I mean, we know that. So but even there, it’s good for people to think through this. And again, what else? And then you have to ask people, and it’s not just, it’s really a resource question. And yes, and it’s usually time and money. But and it’s not always just money. But a nother critical pieces is Do people have the time to invest in this? Or do they think they have the time? Or can you start a conversation about time, and then help them think differently about the time that they had? Maybe, maybe, even though they have almost no time? And in that current schedule, but it’s a little bit like, didn’t? Does anybody ever remember that covey. story about the I think it was the lumberjack, sewing down the trees, and they’ve been sewing down the trees. And on the first day, you know, he does 20 trees, and on the second day, it is 16 trees. And on the third day, it is 12 trees. And, and and on the fourth day, you know, somebody said, you know, how come your numbers are decreasing? And his point was, well, my saws not working like it was and they said, Why don’t you stop and shop and your soul? Well, I don’t have time, I’ve got to cut down as many trees as I can.
Sometimes we don’t have time. But what we’re spending our time on, is not as good as it could be. If we would take the time to stop sewing down that tree with a blunt soul. Shopping the soul, we could go and get our other 12 trees that we were going to go to get that day done in you know, another two hours worth of work, for instance, but they’re they’re things that we have to analyze and figure out and, and there’s no obvious way to make and there are certain times when schedules are packed. And that’s that and there is time to analyze Well, yeah, that’s what I’m doing. That’s what I’ve got scheduled, but what what actually is most important, and we do have to think about what is most important for for how we live our life and that’s their, their the decisions and the judgments that we make the leadership of our own lives because if you even if you never lead an organization, even if you never lead a team, the one thing only you can do is lead your life. Nobody else gets to do that. That’s your job. And how you live your life is is your work, your art your craft, and Your skill, your science, your, your poetry, or your music, whatever it might be. So, and, and then at the end of these questions, and I’m just about to finish up for our lunch break.
But before we do, we’ve got another couple of minutes. And then I just want to go these last couple of questions
is
to is to ask them, it really is a resource question, do you have time? Do you have money? What are you prepared to do for that? Because it’s important for people to think themselves, what am I prepared to do? I don’t know, what is important to me. And it’s not it is not just a matter of what’s important is what what’s the reality of my life also at the time, but there, it’s important for people to, to and to allow people to have those thoughts and to make those have those considerations. And then, at the end of this, then, you know, this, this was put here, and I and I, I made this as part of an funding experience, this, actually, nobody else on this call experienced this. But this, this is some visa, a funding must remember all of these questions, even if he doesn’t remember them all, essentially, there’s an Oscar at the end of it to say, you know, if you are, you know, if, if whatever it is you’re doing, you have some kind of a call to action if you want, you don’t have to. So for example, Grace could say, you know, if we if we do have our next Internship Program, or if, if we were going to invite some of our past interns back, would you be willing to give a, you know, a testimonial of what the experience was like, which was like, would you have an ask, and the ask of them, is, should be something that, yes, helps contribute to your, your larger work, and also allows them to consolidate or to uplevel their own understanding of their experience. And sometimes, and sometimes when we, when we go through something, it’s not until we do some wrap up at the end, some review and analysis on understand what that means hand has meant to my life, when we do our meaning making component. Sometimes we need to be encouraged to do that, or given the space to do that.
Sometimes experiences we have in our lives, you know, it won’t let us go until we do that. And other times, we’re so busy moving on that we don’t get the full value out of those experiences. And it’s not until we do reflect on Think about all how that did help us move from there to there, but then we can a feel an accomplishment, we can see how that’s contributed, and we can then see going forward what that means for us in a life. So that is a valuable what you are doing for a person through this whole process is actually a very powerful, valuable experience for them, as well as you gathering that information for your project or program. So you can go into these kinds of interviews with people with full confidence, I believe that people will have a meaningful time with you that they value as well as you gaining and gleaning information. So when you ask person for time to interview them, for your research, for your market research for your stakeholder research for your whatever it is, you can feel confident that that time and you can get all of this done in 30 minutes, sometimes 45 minutes. Well, you know, for afonya he moved on into a whole nother phase of activity, you know, by the end of that meeting, but but but that that half hour to 45 minutes, but it usually takes 20 minutes, it can even take 20 minutes with some people, you can know that it is just as valuable for them as it is for you. So I’m going to finish up this this section. And so what we’ve done here is really we’ve gone over the the CO creating the stakeholder drivers, we’re looking at the nitty gritties of understanding And getting our hands and minds and hearts around the stakeholder journey that is such a unique and compelling and important component of social change. That is very unique to and I haven’t even gone over all this stuff but I’ll pull this together later on. But in the meantime, I’m going to give you a break, go on off and get your lunch. You’ve got half an hour, we’ll come back. We’ve got chocolate Maryland, Marla’s coming in at 1130 my time, whatever time it is 30 in wherever it is that you guys are in half an hour. We’ll see you back then. And we I look forward to handing off to introduce
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So I want to say welcome to now I’m not sure that you knew that this was going to be the change leaders master plan live weekend, which is an implementation event, three days, when we really spend time together going over the big picture of what change leaders do, what were what is going on, the kind of impact that can be made, could be made, but not really just about the kind of impact that you want to make. Because that’s, that’s really up to each one of you. But we get into the understanding the process of that, or the journey of that impact.
And some of the key elements of it and some of the the important components that you can really uplevel your your skills in, but make a massive difference to where you end up to the kind of impact you make. And so I know for some of you this is really building on the six, the six weeks that we’ve spent together some of the content that we’ve gone over some of the experiences that you’ve already had with the homework and the exercises that you have already been given. And this time putting it all into the these three days and spending it together and doing some of the little bits and pieces that we will do in small, you know, we’ll have some little have a little breakout session, although with this many people it might just be a working session all of us together, you know, with me not talking. So that so that you can get a you can hear from one another. And you can try some of these things out. So again, I just want to say welcome to change leaders master plan live. And part of what we want to do is dig into this change leadership perspective. In the context of the 21st century. You know, for some of us, not all of us in this room. But for some of us, the 21st century is a thing, it’s different than the 20th century where we spend a lot of our lives, where a lot of the systems in our or in our world, we’re actually shaped and created. But now those systems have moved on into the 21st century, when we have everything that is dramatically different. But the systems and the habits and the institutional, whether it be at the government level, you know, at our local council levels, even in some of our mainstay institutional levels are still shaped and structured back in the 20th century. Even in our educational institutions, the thinking about how to educate, and how best to do everything is still powerfully shaped by the 21st century. But so many of those things have changed. And the realities of the 21st century and
we’ve seen
that radical change happen very quickly, right in front of all of our eyes just this year with COVID with so much changes so quickly, and it can. But all of the institutions and the way we do everything wasn’t ready for it. And so much of what’s going on is we’re grappling with reality, we’re trying to figure out how to work together. And we work together as we’re social beings, we work together as social beings,
through
our institutions in and through, because that’s how we work together. They’re the, they’re the mechanisms, they’re the you know, the the kind of the cellular bodies for the way we as human beings function together. But this still, by and large, still 20th century kinds of structures. And that’s part of the reason why it’s so hard to adapt and change. And so we’re wrestling with the ghosts in the closet from years gone by, as well as trying to deal with the realities right in front of us. So this kind of an I want to just pull up a one of my favorite little
pictures that
let me get out of
this
and find this and I’m gonna To share the screen, I want to share this little image with you because it’s really an important one.
I hope
this works. Here we go, you can see this, right?
So
in this 21st century, and especially since I mean, it’s really only been since what 2009 is when the smartphones really hit society, and they kind of the iPhone, smartphone, not just a phone that could text, but that could have apps that could get you connected with other people that could bring the information right into the palm of your hand, really only began Good grief in 2009 What’s that that’s now 1011 years ago. And since that time, the technology evolution and the technological impact on day to day life on communications to the extent now we’re seeing live playing out the radical, the impact of this kind of technology in America’s in America and, and global politics, right today, the technology evolution that has increased capabilities, it is increased access to information. It’s given us new levels of knowledge, not always new levels of wisdom, and and capacity for, for being truly you know, and human, but has escalated. Incredibly. Meanwhile, as I was talking about before out traditional structures, they been gradually lumbering along in the regular fashion, as, as they always did, slowly changing, upgrading themselves a bit at a time, gradually moving forward. And part of the reason for the
slow movement
is very valid.
Our governments,
whether or even car makers, or our global institutions, need to have certainty need to have need to be reliable, need to be consistent, need to be grounded in laws that evolve slowly, thoughtfully, and not fast. But when these traditional structures do not adequately adapt the things that they need to not everything, some of those things really need to need to say, solid, but they need to allow for the engagement of this new these new technologies to be built into their systems and to be able to impact them, we end up with this growing gap in our society. And this is what I just call it the gray zone, because well, I made gray circles. So it’s kind of the gray zone. But it’s increasing, it’s not decreasing. And this is the space into which transnational organized crime dives into. That’s the space into which in grows, increasing anxiety and uncertainty because because people are sensing the break between the difference between what is possible and where we are, and the certainty of our old traditional organizations. And at some level, at some level as human beings, we do like we do like that certain do it. We have both. We’re constantly wanting to change, and we’re constantly wanting comfort. Because we want to do the same thing today that we did yesterday. I mean, there’s a there’s a there’s a comfort in familiarity. Now we so we like these
differences.
And yet, we like new novelty. We’ve got these parts of us as human beings, and they’re built into you know, even the core of our emotions. We fear when when something alerts us and shocks us, if it’s if the change is too quick, our natural responses fear. If nothing changes, isn’t there’s no surprise, then we tend to get bored. Because another real part of our emotional makeup. One of the six basic emotions, one of them is fear. And one of them is surprise. We love surprises. I still remember Grace’s face, when I told her to push that golden button, I mean, just very, it was just so simple, but it’s so built into us. And, and you know, it’s the same kind of thing, when, when we, we love surprises at our birthdays at celebrations, when we open a gift, we don’t know what’s inside, and the whole opening and the whole boxing sim thing that’s on on YouTube, people unbox. But they do videos about all kinds of unboxing, from clothes to shoes, to the latest shiny object of, of, of technology, whatever it might be. It’s another very human element. And as we move on into this, the program that we’re looking at, I never want to get away from the fact that at the core of the changes that where we see in the world, and that, that most of the people who are here on this call, and those who can’t be here, because of their internet, or whatever, and those who would like to be here, but it’s the middle of the night, they are those who are serious about making the changes that need to be made, they see the pain, they see the problems, they see the possibility. So in the 21st century, you know, we’re living in these uncertain times. So what what I want to do in the course of these three days, is look at this big picture of what is going on, as well as seeing the role of change leadership, and therefore getting down to really some of the quintessential
elements
that are the most important for us as change leaders and as human beings. So that means yes, at the personal level, because it doesn’t matter who we are, at the core, we are a human being. And we are involved in all of this. And we are going out there to make a difference in the world. And we do that through more external structures, through programs, through through organizations, through advocacy, through law through whatever it might be through engaging with other with other entities. But we want to really look at some of the things that you can do differently through small shifts and changes, that magnify that gives you the biggest bang for your buck. I mean, it’s just ever all of us we want to make, we want every effort that we make, to make the you know, to give us the biggest return on our investment to give us you know, the biggest difference for that effort. And sometimes even in especially in the in the social change world. Even seemingly, you step back and you think that in the big picture was a small effort, it can take enormous personal sacrifice at times. So I want to help you see how when you make that enormous personal sacrifice, that you can know that it’s being put in a place that makes the biggest difference, not just hoping it will make the biggest difference. Because a lot of the time we just have to go on quote unquote, on our faith on our hopes on our expectation on on. And, and yes, there are many times we have to step out into thin air. And by the way, stepping out into thin air can be really fun. Um, but you still have to trust that gravity works and your parachute opens and all those good things happen so that you will actually land safely, but it can be extremely thrilling, stepping out into thin air. It really is. But, um, but there are times, especially in your life, you know, jump out of an airplane takes a few minutes. It could be the rest of your life. But you know, mostly it’s usually just a few minutes. But some of the investments that you will make in your work will take days, months, weeks years of your life and to avoid mistakes that take that those days, months years of your life to not be quite as as helpful as they could have been, that’s, you know, very, very important stuff. To me, it’s important stuff. Why? Because I’ve learned some of those hard lessons. Things that I, I didn’t see right in front of my face, that I hope that in the course of this time, whatever it is that I hope you take on, please understand that some of these have been hard won lessons. And so the value of them I hope can save, even if it saves you a week of your life, how many hours is that you get back how many hours 24 times seven, anyway, quite a few hours, that’s, you know, either a whole lot of sleeping that you could do, or it’s a whole lot of playing, you could do, or it’s a whole lot of something different that you could do in your life. So the point is, you know, even if it’s only even if I can only save you a week of your life, that’s that can be very valuable. Now, these sessions, as we go through the program are going to build one on top of the other. And, you know, at the end, I’m going to invite each of you at the end of the end of the program, or the end of the day, each day, if you want to have one on one time to talk about anything, then I will make that time for you Just Just so you know. So that if you want to either understand how some of these things might play out in your own work or your own life. Anyway, so we can we can schedule that kind of that kind of time.
Um, so.
And, for me, as I speak to you, as I crafted this program, and I know, this is just the beta program, and this is a small group. And so that makes it very personal. And I’m very grateful for each one of you, for those who are who couldn’t even make it here today, James and funmi, who were in the program, who are living in, I was just saying to, to grace before we started that, for me, it works lives and works on the largest floating slum in the world. You know, I didn’t even know there was one until I met for me. In in Lagos and James works out in in a country area of Nigeria, where the the local river there and he’s passionately working on water issues, because his local river there is what is used for irrigation is what is used for laundry is what is used for drinking is what is used for storage is what is used for everything. And of course that as we know creates health issues, creates livelihood, you know is anyway we don’t need to go into the details of that. But he is just so concerned about the the lives of the people around that river that that is their resource. We all know water is so essential for life. So there’s, there’s that kind of, of work that he’s doing. And I know that you
are
pivotal
to the lives of many other people, each one of you, in your your work, whatever it is that you’re doing, you are pivotal to the experience that people have in their lives. And I know you know, we’ve all heard this kind of thing before, even just from the perspective of physics, and I often go back to that that was my undergraduate degree, you know, the, the farmer’s daughter, who likes to know the practical things of life and how to get things done more of a, an engineer than have a ending up at the UN and dealing with diplomacy. But there you go, who knows where you end up.
From the physics point of view,
the reflection of the sun in your eye that happens to shoot out one photon into space, can travel for hundreds of millions of light years to we don’t know where. And that’s just, you know, one tiny little bit what we do, and that’s that’s, you know, that’s just existing. But what we do even in our social spheres, it ripples out, we it’s cumulative. We don’t know exactly what kind of impact we’re going, we can’t always see it. And yet, we also want to be not just happenstance impactors of the world. Most the most of us and so many people, even the people who go into medicine, the people go into all kinds of things. careers helping careers, the emergency workers. You’ll hear from chaplain Maurice later on how, how many lives she has impacted. And we’ll hear, you know, perhaps why she went into that, but move. So many of you, I know, are not just wanting to make a little bit of a difference you want to make the biggest difference that you possibly can. Now, not everybody is you know, so in other words, we want to be high impact individuals, not just Well, you know, we’ll see what we can do today and sit and twiddle our thumbs. That’s not what moves your hearts on mine.
So
not all of us are going to figure out quantum theory, we’re not all going to fit, you know, when, and whoever there was, first of all the quantum theorists and then then those then there are people who are working on the quantum computers. And when they become on when when we end up with quantum computers on our desks, what that’s going to unleash in terms of artificial intelligence, and heavens, on the nose, what else, you know, the world is going to change massively. And part of all of this is just to say, what you are going to see the changes that you are going to see in your lifetime are going to be massive. What I’ve even seen in my lifetime has been dramatic. I speak to my dad, who is 94 years old. And I know he began watching his dad work on a farm with farm equipment pulled by horse, pork, horses, teams of horses. And I knew my grandmother who died at 100 over 100. And she lived, you know, she was born in 1904, something like that. And she went from living in literally, you know, the kerosene light at time to where she began to see computers emerging, what people have seen in their lifetime. And that escalation, that diagram that I showed you the differences and which way they’ll go and exactly how it’ll play out, none of us really know. But but just the sheer possibilities of difference are enormous. So being high impact individuals in that gray zone. Because that gray zone, actually one of the benefits of that gray zone is it means it’s kind of like the new wild west, the positive side, but
the positive side of that
gray zone is that it creates a huge area
for leadership,
need for leadership. Because what happens most people a lot of the time, just don’t quite know what to do. They want to, but don’t quite know what to do. So having even simple systems that you can rely upon, that you can trust to take you forward into those into that uncertainty into that volatility into that ambiguity into that complexity.
When others are still thinking, what should I
do, I know I need to do something, but I don’t know what to do. If you have even the simplest of systems that allow you to have some extra degree of trust and capacity to move forward. And lead. take that step into seemingly thin air but it isn’t always thin air. We know gravity works. We know we’ve got a parachute. We know we packed it, well we know what to do. We practiced it, we’ve done it, then then you can do things that others are not prepared to do. They just don’t know. They’re not bad people they just
don’t know.
So
being able to be a high impact person is just so many times just being having that. That courage, having even simple systems that you can trust and utilize and to step out and to take action when others don’t. That gray area is ripe for leadership. When you can turn that fear. You know, I assure you the first time I jumped out and I go back to this because it was such a powerful experience when I jumped out of an airplane and I would rationally tell myself because I would ride my motorcycle up to the top The drop zone. And people would say, But aren’t you afraid of jumping out of an airplane? Like? I’d say, Yes, I say, but rationally, I’m probably more likely to die riding my motorcycle up to the drop zone than I am jumping out of an airplane. So there’s the rational elements of all of this stuff. But by the time I got to the edge of the open door of the plane, and the instructor yelled, go, I’m going to
put the planes working.
There’s nothing, there’s nothing out there, but finance, and fear, the gut fear. But somehow, I guess the training kicked in on my own, just drive kicked in whatever it was. And I pushed my way out the door. And it took a couple of jumps. But then my favorite place was the excitement was actually diving out of a plane. And getting into that thin air, and then feeling having that experience that thrill. And part of why I say that is because yes, we face we face fears, we will face fears. But again, part of what we are dealing with as we deal with even the simplest things such as our organizational development, and changes that we make in our daily habits, we are aware that one of the first things we’re confronted with is our natural reaction to it’s it’s a little barrier there of our own human nature of fear. But part of part of what we’re what we do is find ways where that fear becomes fuel for us. It’s not just something to back away from, but to observe it to knows, and then to learn how to function. And in fact, to then even see that perhaps some of that is excitement and thrill. And I mean, how many, how many of you want you to put in the chat. Anybody who’s who’s been to a, a theme park, and has written on one of the roller coasters or the big? The big anything’s anybody? Just say me in the chat. I want to see that you’ve
up?
Yep. Danielle has been there.
Yep.
Yep.
I suspect even Maryland’s been on a ride.
He funny. I hope has been on a ride one of these times. Anyway. Also, I want to make sure that you all know where the chat box is. I assume you do. But you know, sometimes people don’t.
But
why do you go on those rides?
Put in the chat. Why did you Why do you, you know, put in there
more than you wanted to print?
Okay. Okay. So, but why did you go on a ride? Was it fun? Was it a thrill? Yeah, it’s fun. But when when you’re going up that when you’re going up that right, up, up, up, up, up, up, and you’re getting to the top, and then you’re getting right at the top? And then you can’t even see what’s over the other side? How do you feel? Is that is that? Is that fun at that moment? Or is it a little bit more akin to fear, raw fear. And then, and because you know, then then you come over the top, and you go down. And then you realize you’re in the you’re strapped in, you feel that you’re safe. And then you come down and you go, there’s a level of relief there. Because, Oh, God, you survived that. And then you go around, and then you come up, and then you could you do it again. I mean, we’re crazy. I mean, it I mean, people spend thousands and thousands of dollars to scare ourselves almost. And then and then to do it again. So there’s a very real part of us that really loves this process.
of, of,
or, and I think part of what we enjoy about theme parks is that we face our fears, and we overcome them. And we realize we come down the other side with a big smile on our face. We can succeed through that process. So
So part of what we’re doing here is we’re looking at ways that we can really face some of those those fears, find some of those systems and and find ways To really make a difference in people’s life now, just recently, there was somebody speaking to a large audience of people who were the that I heard, was considering there, you know, what careers there are people who wanted to make a difference in people’s lives and so that the thinking about what career Can I have, that can make a difference in people’s lives? And so they were thinking about anyway, the, the, the conclusion was that there were three main ways, but one of the important things that they that the person who was speaking said that, yes, there were, there are these high impact individuals. And so a lot of these people were considering, you know, becoming a doctor or considering research or considering considering different things that they could do in their life. Because people make decisions, you know, how can I make a difference? Where can I go? What What is kind of natural to me, what do I like? What am I strengths? But how can I go and and people are naturally strategic, we naturally think about where can i if we if we want to make a difference, where can I make that biggest difference? And so, you know, part of it was interesting, because they looked at, for example, doctors in developing countries, in in developed countries today actually make a smaller impact on people’s lives than those who are doctors in developing countries. Because so much in our developed world, it’s so much more as dependent upon not just the doctor, but the nurses in the hospital and the insurance and the the environment and the food that they eat and whatever else whereas a doctor, for example, there was a doctor Neyland, who operated in Bangladesh, Burma, or much earlier last century. And through a simple innovation that he had, of
mixing salt and sugar in water
that he gave to people with diarrhea, was able to save that one person saved about half a million lives. So you know, you’d have to say, Yeah, he, he, he made a difference. It made a massive difference in so many people’s lives. And then, then that, then there’s this guy. I’m not sure you’ve heard of call Landa Steen? Anybody heard of Colin decine Thumbs up if you have or, or shake your head. Okay, so he was the guy who simply figured out blood groups saved in a saving and probably will continue to say 10s of millions of lives. Because, you know, blood transfusions, and they were understood that it was good, but sometimes I worked and sometimes people ended up dead. But by understanding, you know, that, that there were blood groups, so he was a researcher, and he came up with that, I’m sure he didn’t quite know the impact that it would have. But he was a high impact individual and has literally saved millions of lives. And then there’s an I think there’s a movie out now about this unknown, Soviet Lieutenant Colonel, who probably quite literally saved all of our lives. And we don’t even by and large, most people don’t know his name in 1983, not so long ago, but some of you guys would never have even been born probably. And that’s thanks to this. Stanislav Petrov, a lieutenant colonel in the Soviet Army during the Cold War. Yeah. And he was on duty in a Soviet missile base when an early warning system detected apparently incoming missile strike from the United States. All of the protocols told him to send the message through and to fire back. But he decided against the protocols and to to stand down on a return strike an unknown Stanislav Petrov, who probably quite literally saved thousands of millions of lives and our world today. So yeah, we might not be a Stanislav Petrov. But you might be you know, we don’t, those kinds of high impact individuals are probably unexpected. We don’t we don’t grow up Planning to be those. But there are a couple of other ways other than being those remarkable individuals that make a massive difference. And so I’m coming back to where we live here, you know, 20th 21st century here in our society as it is for now. The ways we make social impact that through how we donate money, because money is basically energy, and fuel for change. How We Do you know, what we advocate for in our lives and change the shape and the thinking about people, either just within our own spheres, how we shape our social groups, the thinking, what we advocate for, and how much we change, thinking around certain topics and things. And that can go all the way up to advocacy at the global level in terms of global policy types of advocacy. And then the other main way that today we can make social impact and make a difference is by helping others to be more effective. And that’s what we’re doing here. And that’s what you do in your work.
To help
you are in the helping profession in that sense of helping others be more effective in their lives, and to live better, and to live well. So by training, educating by whatever it is, these are the main ways that we do make a difference. And this and so this is what this is part of what we are really doing here. And so you are very, very central to this. And part of part of what I want you to to be very serious about in in our time together is is how committed you are to upgrading your skills and capacities. And to never think, yes, you’ve got to go out there work, yes, you’ve got to sacrifice your time and make the effort and go the extra mile, so many times. And I want to make sure that you are always investing in yourself, your education, your health, your emotional health, your your heart, your enjoyment, your satisfaction. Because if you are at that center of the change that you are making, the more vibrant and vital you are, the more vibrant and vital, it’s just kind of natural, logical stuff will be your impact in the world. So never underestimate the importance of making sure that in the midst of all of the other things that you do, that you also invest in yourself, because you are the center of your little world, Your World, Your little universe, it all you know, you’ve noticed, right? When you travel from New York, to California, the center of your universe changes from New York to California, you see everything from California and perspective, all of a sudden,
the center of your universe moved.
I mean, and it’s you know, you are the center of the universe and your universe includes everybody else, but just you know, in a slightly different place. Anyway, that’s just kind of, sorry, my little thing but anyway, what so what I want you to do is I want to I want you to this time, I want you to type into because I want you to make that physical effort. I want you to say put it type into the chat box, I’m committed. I’m committed to improving myself or I’m committed to up leveling myself, I’m, I’m committed to becoming more I whatever it is that you know, that that you would like, for yourself. I’m committed to myself, you can even just say I’m committed to myself.
I’m waiting for some chats. Here we go.
Maybe you want to be committed to high intensity living, or maybe you want to just high intensity impact, but you don’t have to live high intensity all the time. It’s really important that downtime. Okay, you find a good we’ve got one committed person here. Okay, another one. Great. Educating and learning and educating, realizing my potential cool because that’s one thing that I have Learn is is the amazing potential of human beings is is remarkable. So I’m
so
now consider leaving a legacy Marilyn Pitt, I’m committed to invest in myself wonderful.
Good,
because it takes commitment because there are times, there are times when it’s nice to do it and it’s easy to do. And it’s that level of when we’re committed when it when we go that extra mile. But when that gets us to, to go out that door when there is no ground that we can put our foot on, that actually gives you the greatest moments of excitement and thrill and value, because you then have a whole new experience a whole new foundation of, of expert, what becomes expertise, that does not happen by doing the same thing you have always done. It only happens when we dare to go out into new territory, break new ground and do things differently than what we have done before. And that is true at the personal level at the organizational level. And you know, at the at the social level. So that commitment, I’m really happy to hear and see that. Now, one thing is sometimes when I’m I’m Do you all know where the raise your hand button is? Because and this is just some of the the housekeeping stuff under under the participants. There’s a you can
There we go. Yeah, so we finally knows how to raise his hand. The good thing about it, can everybody go into the participants area and raise your hand? Yeah. Great. And then and because the value of that one for me is that and you can lower your hand now, or I can clear it clear all for you. The value of that is if I’m in the middle of talking something and I’m all in my head. If you’ve got any questions, if you type them into the chat box, I might not see them. Because I’m I’m going to be in my head. But then when I turn my attention, and if I can see that you’ve raised your hand and that you’ve got a question about some part of what I’m doing, then I will answer you. Additionally, what that does is it gives the hand raised leaves an order. So whoever raised the hand for so I don’t necessarily skip over anybody. And this is not as important perhaps in small groups. But in larger groups, it’s, this is important. And there may be times down the road when each of you are doing and increasingly, the chances of you doing group meetings on zoom and the like, are going to increase rather than decrease for a little while yet. And even when COVID disappears, I’m sure a lot of this stuff will still stay with us. So these are just little things that that you can know about as well for down the road. So there is so there’s that as well. So um, and I think I saw Daniella knows how how thumbs up and clapping, they don’t allow for thumbs down in that in that’s and that’s in the that’s just at the bottom of your screen under the reactions area. So it’s I think sometimes it’s just helpful to go out most of you know the zoom stuff, but you might not know some of the things. And it’s always good to know. And of course everybody knows how to mute and unmute themselves. So that’s, that’s about it in terms of in terms of that. So most most of that, that’s the kind of the housekeeping for now. Now, we’ve got a few more minutes in this session. So let me go over then.
One of the things is we get
just in terms of how we operate as a group here. And even for those who perhaps tune in later on, and watch some of the videos later on,
is that
in some of the sessions, we may do some, you know, some sharing of stories. And part of it is there, you know, and we’re not going to get into really, really in depth stuff here. I don’t think but sometimes stuff comes out. And the point is, I want this to also be a safe space for people. So I want everybody to honor the whatever individuals share in our time together over the course of this weekend. And just to fully respect one another’s experiences The things they do share. And, you know, if you hear a story from somebody, then later on, perhaps you cannot, and you would like that would be a useful story for you to tell either anonymously, you could do that, or you know, and anyway, without identifying the person, that’s one thing, or if you wanted to ask them, if you could, you know, use that story, then please go ahead and do that. But my main point here is to please us use this as a safe space as a place where you can ask questions that might be difficult for you. Or not, you know, I don’t know. But I do want to create this place this time together as a safe space so that you feel like whatever you shared here will not go beyond the space. And I would like each person to honor that
for one another.
And I want to do now one little exercise with everybody. And it’s going to require some
I’m going to share a screen Let me pull up
my screen.
Let’s get rid of that.
Good.
Okay, so then
give me a moment. It’s almost getting there. Now. This is a little.
Okay, so here we go.
So
what I’m going to do,
is I’m going to give you
you don’t even know what I’m going to do.
I’m going to give you all one minute and I want you to starting at one I want you to find systematically find 1234 you know the numbers. So starting now I want you to and then when I tell you to stop, I want you to tell put in the in the chat what number you get to go.
You got 30 seconds.
I probably should have only given you 30 seconds, but anyway.
543210 Yeah, 16 1714 1617. Yeah. So Whoa, Fernando. Wow, cool. Look at you.
29. Okay, now,
what I want you to do is I’m going to show it, I’m going to pull it up on the screen again. Now, what I want you to notice this time, and I want you to do it again. And maybe I’ll just do 30 seconds. And so we just have to have the the total number there to give us the same kind of an outcome or double the outcome in 30 seconds to give you an equivalent number there. But what I’m going to I what I want you to notice when I pull that up, is that I’m going to give you a very simple system to follow to help you find those numbers. Very, very simple system. So I want you to notice, see these dots if you were to because I can’t draw I should have done this a little differently but I didn’t okay wants you to draw line through there, like an X on the middle of the screen through there and there. Now there is one of these numbers in each box. So if you were to draw that line, so in other words, you look for number one in this area, or this area. And then at number two in this quadrant, then you look for number three in this quadrant, then you look for number four in this quadrant, and then four, five in this 678 910, simple system. I want you too, okay, you you understand what I’m saying. So I’m, you still got to go find those numbers with your eyes, once we start going. And we’ll just do it for 36 seconds. But now you’ve got a little system to use start. 210? And, and so what number Did you get to just in 30? seconds?
Yeah, look at that.
You You got done in half the time?
At least, you know, as many as
Yeah, I mean, you almost double every almost everybody double their, their capacity to find those numbers,
right.
The power of having a system.
So that’s part of what I and I think, you know,
Grace and fani. And all of the others have have heard me is kind of saying from the get go, you know, as as we’ve gone into our impact and influence formula is the importance of having systems simple, doable, ones that you not just doable, but done. ones that you use systems in place that can multiply that can double, triple and in some cases, which is why, why those systems that I gave you just can powerfully multiply your capacity to impact. Having a simple system, rather than no system at all. The simple system for your personal life, as simple system in your office, as simple system in your organization. Choosing then the most powerful systems are are really important in your life. You finally had mentioned he had to have to leave, he’s got some things he had to do. But you’ll catch up on this later on. But I
hope that that
simple little exercise kind of neat, right? Simple, simple, but it’s very instructive about having a system.
So
no, I just before we you know I’ve got it, I guess in terms of our about agenda. The rest of this time we’ll break we’ll take a break at nine 930 my time anyway, on the half hour This time, we’ll take a 15 minute break, then we’ll have a 75 minute session. And then because I’ve kind of condensed the day because I was concerned about if our Nigerian friends were going to be coming in that would have been to go to five o’clock in the day would have been really, you know, a long day for them. It was a long day. So so I’m trying to condense everything between eight o’clock and 2pm pacific time which is 11 o’clock and 5pm try to be normal for grace and reasonable for those in in grace and funny and reasonable for those beyond. That will will have very short, you know, even the breaks might end up shorter than 15 minutes, but they’re mostly bio breaks, go and get yourself a drink and stuff, that kind of stuff and do whatever you need to do stretch, make a phone call that you have to make whatever sort of thing, but lunch is going to be short, it’s going to be a half an hour, but that’s, you know, pretty much all you need. Oh, I’m telling you, it’s odd. Um, and then and then we’ll have another 75 minutes session time with a chaplain Mara, she’s got some really juicy stuff and, and some time together, following up on that. And then after, we’ll have another break, and then we’ll have another session before, you know another one hour session after that, and then that’ll be the end of the day. So the each each day today, tomorrow, and the following day will follow that basic pro that basic structure throughout the day. So it’s not a super long day, but I hope it is still enough time to really allow you to get absorbed, you know, absorb a lot of this stuff. So now what I want to turn to before we finish out this session is just reflecting on, on, you know, I just introduced the introduced it, that’s a new word introduced the idea of systems and how important they are. And part of what then you have to say it was well, that little, you know, x divides that block of numbers, that was one system but but when we’re talking about social change, what kind of systems do we really need. And so before we jump into some of the the core elemental systems, that that will be a little bit familiar now to our impact and influence formula students. But hopefully, even all of this that we’re going over helps them see from a different perspective than what they saw before. They jumped in more at the granular level of how to do or what each one of these were and how to do them to some extent. But this, the way we’re doing it here through the master plan is trying to give you the bigger picture look at at att so that you could you’ve got the bird’s eye view of what’s going on here. So you have the master plan, view. And so we want to look at what kind of system now, one important piece that I want to remind us all is that no matter who we are, we are human beings on a journey through our life. I still remember when I you know first became a mom. Yeah, I never been a mom before I became one. And so, you know, Hara was faced with this. I want to tell you all the details of how I got faced with this thing, but this little first babe. And one day when he was still newborn, I looked at him and I said Ozzie because that’s his name. Well, sort of his name, said, Ozzie. You’ve never done this before. And I’ve never done this before. So we’re just going to have to work it out together, okay. And I’m sure he agreed, because that’s what we did.
But
the point there is
none of us really asked to be born but we were women, we find ourselves in this world. We go
through we
were first children, we grow we grow up in, we don’t even we don’t always we have don’t, we don’t have choices about everything. But in the bigger picture and the way we the way humans, the way we talk to ourselves, it’s a life is a journey. And it’s a journey into the unknown. Because we’ve never been there before. Every moment of the future has never been never for anybody ever anywhere. We have perspective on it based on looking back and seeing and gaining that perspective by looking back and through our own experience. But in reality we’ve never stepped into into each new moment. It’s a genuine journey. So for a decius way back when in the Greek mythology, and you know, you know the stories the story of the you know,
most most of Hollywood
follows the arc of the hero’s journey and all you’ve heard of. Some of you have studied those things. And when I was, I always did physics and math and chemistry and biology and whatever else in high school, so I never English literature and stories and all that sort of stuff. Were not my stuff. So I discovered all of these things later on. But, but the hero’s journey, which is the story of the common man, the common person, the common experience in life, then goes out to explore the world, and then is faced with a problem. And then has challenges and difficulties. And yes, we all say to ourselves, oh, and it can’t get worse. Oh, but yes, it does. And then it gets worse. And then we say, oh, but No, it can’t get worse. But yes, it does. And then it gets worse. And then, you know, right. In the end, in the very last moment, the hero’s journey is you know, he finds his way out, something usually happens, and there’s a breakthrough. And we have those breakthrough moments. And then we have the AHA experience. And then something really wonderful happens in the end. I mean, that journey is, is a pattern that we all experience in some parts of our lives. You know, at the micro level, at the daily level, you know, even sometimes our days are like that, we wake up in the morning full of hope, and we feel good, then we open the door at work. And then you faced with all of these emails that you weren’t expecting and the challenges and the problems, and then you think it can’t get worse. And yes, it does, you get more emails, and then something else happens. And then you know, and then it then it can still get and then by somehow you get all of the things taken care of. And by the end of the day, you can close the door and walk away and feel like I’ve accomplished something and Yes, okay, it’s, it’s good. Now I can go home and take a breath. But so our life, human life is a journey for all of us. And why is it important to understand this, and that’s an it’s important to understand this, because this is what when we work with people,
were
helping them take journey, a journey that we are in, in our own little ways, we’re trying to provide them with systems that help them go through that journey a little bit better, and foster so that they are more able to do well in their life. And it’s just really important to keep that that kind of that backdrop of understanding that this is what we’re helping people do is journey through their life. And you know, what you want for your life you want for your life to be meaningful, you want it to be wonderful, you want to have highs and lows, you want to climb to the top of mountains, you want to ride those rides, you’ve got aspirations that I don’t know about. You’ve got dreams, I, I, I probably would say, Oh, really, you want that. And you look at me and say you ever wanted to do that, you crazy. You know. And so they’re very, very, very unique. Many things are extremely unique. But it’s just so very important to remember that as we deal with people as we create our systems, our structures, as we work with people we are we are helping people take a journey through their life. And as human beings, one of the things that I don’t go into a lot in, and I won’t go into a lot in this in any depth,
but I do want to just
a little bit of the context of of
for journey that we that we go through as human beings, allow me to share this little diagram and I just don’t want to get into the complexity of going into the tensilica underpinning all of this that I do and you’ll see it later I’ve got I’ve got my I put together what I call the trans cillian scotian of the trans aliens framework, which is a way of understanding this, the big picture of this journey, this human journey, but a critical element that is just often forgotten. In as we get into our corporations. Our businesses are organized And even our systems of impact and influence, we very quickly get into figuring out our logical systems and structures that make sense that are easily able, you know, we can put into our little diagrams and our flow charts that make logical sense and and help us to get intellectually from here to there. So that we’ve got a picture plan and understanding of that system, in our mind, which is critical, and essential, and powerful. And alone is insufficient. Which is why in so many businesses and corporations, even some of the even some of the biggest invest today, they so deeply struggle with employee engagement. Because there was one person I spoke to maybe three months ago now, a guy, brilliant guy.
I mean,
I happen to know he’s in Mensa and was very cute, because one of my former lifetimes I, he and his wife, they both met in Mensa and I, I actually married them out in a zoo. But anyway, I didn’t marry them. I mean, I’m married. They got married. And But anyway, so as I say, I’ve got lifetimes of stores. But anyway, so um, but I was interviewing him about stress in the workplace for a particular reason. But he’s a brilliant guy. He’s a developer, he works in, in
security areas for
and he had, you know, a sense of what, what is it? imposter syndrome? How can somebody so smart feel like he doesn’t know what he’s doing, and shouldn’t be where he is? How, unless there’s some other pieces, he’s obviously got the rational capacity to understand and to analyze and to figure stuff out. But his gut experience his his personal one of his challenges was imposter syndrome. Now, it wasn’t necessarily all his fault that he was feeling that way. But his organization was not providing him with the ways that he could feel connected to the mission and purposes. So he could not see how what he was doing, was contributing to the bigger picture of the organization. He didn’t know why he was there, he knew he had certain skills and capacities, but, but why, and how.
So many organizations are like that.
And I can’t understate and the loss of employment, the loss of employee resources when when people go into work, because they feel like they’re not connected. They’re not valued. They don’t know why they’re there. But they’re there for their own welfare, ie the paycheck. They’re there to get paid because they need that money to survive, they might need it for their family for their rent for whatever it is. So they’re there. And they do what they’re asked to do, but they’re not investing the full amount of their creativity, their insights, their their energy. Do you remember a time when you were really on fire about something? Did you just kind of put in the hours and then five o’clock time and you shut shut it down? Or did you go home you thought about it on the train or you you thought about it on the way or you however you get from here to there or you woke up in the middle of the night thinking Ah, you know, this is what you can when you’re on fire, the amounts, it’s just natural, the way we when we are we’re driven that’s that’s just who we are we do that we invest and the amazing resources that can be tapped from each person, volunteer employee, leader, non leader, observer, stakeholder of any kind can be tenfold than just clicking the timer in order to get the hours up. And that happens when people don’t feel connected. When their life they do not see the connection between the hours The journey of their life and the journey of the company, the organization, the whatever it is that they are putting the hours into, when they when there’s a disconnect. And what is lost, not just in? You know, I mean, some people will Yeah, okay. So some people in those situations might sit at their desk and look like they’re working and actually be doing heavens only knows what on their computer. But, but most people at least put in the hours. But I’m looking more at what the human potential that could be being invested in any endeavor. When they are connected, ignited, and valued and aligned with, you know, where their values, their insights, their understanding are lined. And right there, the resources, the human resources, the energy, the creativity, the innovation,
that can be tapped.
When we align our journeys, the organization’s journeys, our stakeholder journeys, and get them all in sync,
so that
those journeys, those life journeys,
become more like
an, you know that those few laser beam lights that line up, and are in sync, and become a powerful beam that can literally cut through diamond that can make the difference. Those small groups, those small teams, and they only have to do, they don’t have to be huge. But just imagine if you had a huge number of them all in sync and working together, then that’s that’s how you make massive, massive impact
in the world.
And big organizations can do that when they do it well. And that’s how some of the big organizations have tapped that kind of creativity, and human resource in their organizations. So how did Google go from zero to Google? You know, in the space of 20
years,
it wasn’t an accident.
It wasn’t an accident.
It was very well planned. Maybe in the beginning, it was accidental, or they came across those systems. In the beginning, there was one particular person who brought those systems into Google. And that’s one of the systems that I that I do teach. But because they systematize that and that became their culture, then it was no accident, that Google eyes now there’s a lot of things that, that they could still do different than that, you know, that’s a whole different question. But what they did was no accident. And it’s important that we understand that. And the piece, I’m getting back, I’m circling around, I circle around it that I wanted to show you is this piece that oftentimes in the system of okrs, that I get into later on, on the under the my tags system. And and that’s just gobbledygook to some of you who are new to this, it’s and I’ll I will make sense of that later on. But it what is important is that those okrs actually be without them fully knowing it. But it paid attention to some of this little piece that I wanted to bring to your attention here. What What is this? Okay, so this is just my very simplistic way of looking at the three aspects of our, what I call our human drivers, and it’s connected in with who we are, and now how our brains function, how we function as human beings. This is not
in a way, some of the some of this is not optional.
It’s we’re hardwired with some of this. So we’ve got, again, don’t take this, this is not completely exactly the way the brain functions, or at least you can’t find the lizard area and then then then the limbic area, and then the logical area when you can sort of but it’s not that simple. And it’s not that clear. But there’s an evolutionary kind of structure to it. There’s a human functioning kind of structure to it. So it’s just a simple way of systematizing and understanding how we function as human beings to help us get a better grip on ourselves to understand what’s going on, so we’ve got you know, almost functional level out, you know, bodily functions, our reptilian complex or survival stuff, you know, we don’t tell our hearts to be. We don’t tell our lungs to breathe. That’s all and and our fight and flight our survival mechanisms are built into our physical body. A baby doesn’t have to be taught to cry when they when they’re hungry, they there’s we’ve got basic survival mechanisms built in, they are there, they impact us, when we experience stress our survival system is being activated, we have to understand that this is impacting us, whether we want it to whether we think it’s a good idea or not, it is this is our l one all lizard, our lizard brain, I call that lizard brain.
And then this then is the
you know, brains, we actually do have the you know, historically there’s this evolutionary comm piece that sits that came in later on the Paleo mammalian complex, which is usually the limbic system, it deals without our memories, memory, processing our emotions, and how all of those things that kind of take place underneath the you know, kind of below the, I say be below our eye level, because most of the things we quote unquote see in the world, we see and talk about and think about throughout the third part are a neo neo mammalian complex or more logical neocortical area, our logic our language area of our brain that we we tend to do most about communication through the the logical mechanisms of language. We through poetry and story, we access those and, and metaphors, and all of the different ways that we communicate, we access all of those, the more the emotional, and, and we reach in and touch those other areas of our life, we can even shock or, you know, stimulate our survival area through our language. But most of the time, we tend to, you know, do most of our thinking about the world through, you know, above the surface and below the surface of the ocean, the oceans that we are, and I like the ocean, because I spent roughly 10 years on the on the water and
all kinds of stuff. So that was another one of my lifetimes.
But, you know, many times people underestimate the power that because we’re always busy seeing the waves on the surface of the ocean. And they are powerful. And the waves alike are a logical world that we see through language and we understand. But the emotional and survival components of who we are, as human beings tend to be pre rational,
tend to operate with
or without our thinking about them.
And when we don’t take them into consideration in how we operate in our organizations and teams, we, we lose we either Miss stuff.
Don’t see it.
Boy, I didn’t see that coming.
Anybody ever had a?
An I didn’t see that coming moment?
Or am I
the only one? I can see a couple of nods. Okay, so,
yeah, okay.
Most of us have had a moment when we didn’t sit in probably the chances is because we were missing some of those cues and clues that are out there. But we need to learn how to look for them because they don’t just, somebody doesn’t say, Hey,
I’m triggered, they just
get triggered. And you didn’t know that that was going to happen. And all of a sudden you’re dealing with the fallout of it, or you’re the one falling out whatever it might be. You know, and even there when we understand that these things happen, we don’t always know how to
deal with it.
So you know, these are these are facets of, of human life. But I I bring this about because it’s really critical to understand that we are all
journeying through life.
And we’re not just having this logical nice pre determined by anybody. experience we can’t just met them. out plan and then logically go through and do each step. Even though we can, we can do that. But the the forces that are at play in the process of us doing that are multiple. And I hope that you can remember that, that those elements of the human being of each one of us,
of each one of
us, your stakeholders, your beneficiaries, your your board members, your co workers, your your parents, your children, your brothers and sisters, the those that were in fact dealing with all those elements of their lives, we don’t have to be responsible for all of those aspects of their lives. And we’ll get to a very important section that which is why I’ve invited chaplain Maryland to spend a whole session on this. But but it’s really important that we understand that this is an important that all of these elements are very real parts of your journey, my journey. And so as we talk about creating stakeholder journey maps, because we want them to go from being interested and curious to being committed, I’ve wanted you to go from the place where you’re interested in curious. And I hope that by the end of these three days that you are even way more committed than what you were when I first got you to type into the into the chat box, yes, I’m committed to, you know, to myself, I hope that you can have a whole new level of commitment to to yourself into your work by the end of end of this weekend. But to understand that, that even to go from interested to committed is a journey. And that in effect, too. And so we can’t just simply expect people to Well, I told them, never, ever got frustrated with somebody because you told them what to do, and they didn’t do it.
Maybe because there are a few other pieces to the whole story.
Maybe you have to factor in a few other little bits and pieces.
And
yes, it might be a matter of telling them again. But it also might be a matter of doing a few other things that will help them make that journey that you can provide. And that you can give them the option to take up and that in the end it will be their option. Especially if they’re adult. You know, Ozzy didn’t have much of a choice but to say,
Yes, we’ll do it together, mom. But
absolutely, he’s got he’s fully fledged with that choice now. So that was just a matter of time. But, um, yeah. So yeah, I just really wanted to you to see that underpinning every little systemic thing that we get into every little chart that we draw every little element that we go into and go about. And it’s really important to see that you as a leader
as a,
making it an impact in people’s lives, the more that you can understand that you are also addressing and helping people to become more effective in their own lives. At the you know, those fundamental below the surface of the water levels have been life as well. So it’s important that they understand how to make sure that the physical that foundation for their life, their bodies, their health, their well being at that level, is sound and solid and good.
And their emotional. well being and fitness I refer to as emotional fitness, it’s kind of like, we all know how important it is. We all say yeah, I want to get fit, you know, but what about emotional fitness? Yay, you know, that’s something that is not practiced as much you know, we talk about things when they get to the sad and sorry stage IE, mental health. But what about just simple emotional fitness? It’s it’s good and part of what we will do part of you know, I think especially you could say putting it into a category chaplain Marilyn will address that area of, of emotional fitness in some in some respects that resiliency that is needed. So that’s I’m gonna I’m gonna break now give you give you a few minutes break and then we’ll come back again. Bio break time, but I just wanted to have you be able to see that. See the connection between being changed leaders What’s going on? In the world, in the big picture of what’s going on in the world, but there’s massive places that you can make a difference. And there are key ways that you can do that. And one of the really important things that helps us as individuals in each moment, you know, are having our own systems in place that allow us to, you know, turn those difficult and challenging moments of that we will face one way or another sooner or later, when we’re expecting it when we’re not in that we can turn those even challenging resources into fuel for impact and influence as we go forward into our life. So let’s take a break, go Go get your coffee, your tea, I’m gonna get a coffee and we’ll see you back.
I’m going to give you is 10 minutes
enough to get a to get a glass of water? No Grace is going I need to do other things. Okay, I’m giving you your full 15 minutes. So go We’ll see you in 15 minutes. Okay.
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The piece that that I wanted to make sure that you saw, is it just a little bit of a bird’s eye view of this, of the piece that I want you to kind of see and have to take away in terms of being a change leaders and having a master plan. Now having a master plan, you know, doesn’t mean that you’ve got every single bit and peace, but you’ve got the big picture. And then you can see where things fit and, and connect. So the image that I just want to show you and it’s kind of a combination of two images from you could almost say kind of like looking at a house plan from slightly different perspectives. And I call this my, you know, the exceptional model as as that kind of evolved through through the course of things here. But let me get screenshare to get back to this exceptional model. And it’s, it’s just really, about when when we’re dealing with change at an organizational level and wipfli in those systems, having simple, elegant systems that can be adapted for use, and that are made a customized for your organizational purpose. Other things that that allow you, when you know that they’re grounded in principles, when you know that they’ve been proven to work, when you’ve experienced them, even a little of yourself, and you have that confidence in them. And then you start to put them into place, and then you find the ways that they work, then then it can be really quite,really quite remarkable and powerful for
for you going forward. And so this is what I call the exceptional model. And in some ways, it’s in some ways, it’s very simple in principle, and it is grounded in what I call this the this trend Ciliates theory of social change. And I’ve given you bits and pieces of that. And again, understanding all the principles here is not the time that we’re going to spend on on taking, looking at the principles, but experiencing some of those, even with chaplain Marilyn and understanding that, that, that there are elements in our lives that are often at play daily, and profoundly for us as individuals. But that many times in the professional environment aren’t even talked about. Or they are not always even structurally dealt with through the organizational systems. And yet they’re they’re very real parts of what is going on in people’s lives is all the more reason to have elements, to understand the principles and then to see how those those elements such as the emotional, the emotional elements are being taken care of in the systems in a very creative, positive, constructive way, are are valuable and important. And part of why this model has come together is because it does pay attention to those pre rational elements of human life. So putting it very simply this model of exceptional of change, change leadership of social change is it’s underpinned with certain pincel principles that take into consideration not just the human dynamic, but also the organizational structural dynamics and and the challenges and the almost elastic nature or what needs to be an elastic nature of how we handle training. We can handle stress for short pieces of time, but it has to relax otherwise, otherwise we break a rubber band can’t be held out forever stretched, and then expect it to be able to be resilient enough to return to its original place to have that give and elasticity that is essential to it being holistic. So understanding some of these elements are at play. So very simply, and we’ve gone over this with the impact and influence boat that we’ve got three core systems in this exceptional model and that is the alignment for performance. We’ve got the core elements of our unique contribution. And then we’ve got the part where we’re tapping the resources, whether you looked at it this way or not, today, what we were looking at is some of the profound resources of the, the that we have in our organizations in the human element. And some of those have an understanding how to work with some of those through, for example, the template on on, stay on our stakeholder drivers. But tapping resources in the bigger picture of a an organizational system also means that, that we are also needing to tap into not just the human resources, we need to tap into the financial resources and other kinds of resources that we have of
materials, and
whatever those other material resources and, and other resources, so you’ve got your kind of your physical resources, your financial resources, and your human resources. And integrating all of those into into a system that is cohesive cohesive, is important, but at the center of all of this, and then at the top, you were dealing with the people. But the part of the value of the second image is because you can see that these systems, this transparent and adaptive goal system, which is the way we align everything, The X Factor, which is the unique component, which some people in the in a lot of the the traditional business world they talk about in terms of branding, or a hedgehog factor, or there’s all different ways people talk about it. But in the end, it’s a it’s a uniqueness factor. The reason why I’ve separated about from some of those is again, because it’s intimately connected in with the factor, the human element. And I want to make sure that all of these have a heart and soul of it is the human element, which is not, which is yes, the taking care of the emotional side, understanding and valuing the cognitive and the logical and the intellectual, all that side and also fully appreciating the physical side of our world about physical lives in the physical environment. And even you know, the global levels of planet Earth. But so we’ve got those, the physical, the, the emotional, social, and the, and the rational, intellectual side, but that having at the core of everything, keeping that sense of human dignity and not seeing none of these things exist or have meaning or value without that human floor. And so when we look at this simple, seemingly house like structure, made of blocks and triangles, and squares, it’s much more of a dynamic mode and all of these feed into one another, the mirrors could be going in exactly the other way. The point here, the arrows was to try to make it clear that these are all interactive. And you can start by looking at the X Factor, but you in the end, you have to end up figuring you have to dig back into your resources or your your stakeholders. And those those factors, then are essential to the alignment of your goal system. So none of these are kind of separate entities that we have to address them one at a time in order to look at them more deeply. But it’s just really important that I want you to see that this is a whole integrated system that that builds together and helps to really create you know, that that institutional framework that is alive, vital functioning, and that has a heart of it, respectful concern for and actually goals and objectives for human beings at at various various levels. So I just wanted to make sure that we we closed out the dates to have this kind of bigger picture that we are creating those systems, simple systems that then become powerful when they used and as simple as as you know, and and i think i told I think I went over one of those simple systems in one of the in the last class that we had, that we were working on, and striving for successes in what we do. And sometimes we feel like we’re just trying to survive the day. But even then, we still want to do it. Well, we’d prefer, I still remember one time when I was
I, you know, I can hope, maybe five. And I was for the age or I know, maybe it was seven, I can’t remember, I was I was a pretty decent swimmer at the time. And we were down in Port Phillip Bay in Australia, which is a very protected area, relatively speaking. But I love to go out as far as I could. But there was one of those times where I was just out beyond where I could stand. And when a wave would come, of course, I would, you know, I couldn’t stand, the wave would go over. And one of those moments I accidentally wasn’t my plan, I accidentally swallowed a mouthful of water. And I can still remember just desperately trying to stand on my toes, arm up, up just to get the air. So just surviving, sometimes with desperate moments where you’re just desperate to survive, and we’re happy with survival. But two seconds later, you know, we want to be, we want to be enjoying the water and swimming on top of it and enjoying the sun and running in the sand. So those moments, the moments, those moments come and go. But we do want to make that impact, we do want to have that kind of high intensity, impact in our lives. And so again, stepping back for the moment, this is just to give you the big picture of that they’re always to tie all these things together. And that as we dig into more we looked at that, that we went over today be the template for the stakeholders and how that can be, you can adapt that to all kinds of ways of deepening, understanding, gathering information for your planning, whatever, but keeping the human element really at the heart of what you are doing in a powerful way that that can really as a funny had had mentioned, in his and his reflections on on having an experience with this just yesterday, it can make your whole progress search forward in amazing ways in surprising ways. So the tools that I have chosen, I’ve seen a lot of tools, a lot of tactics, a lot of strategies over the years, but I’ve distilled them down to these three core because these more than any I would, if you do nothing else would be to pick up each one of these little pieces, and to the best that you can adapt them into your projects, your programs, your your work, and, and begin to work with these and expand from there. Because I’m certain that there are probably other tools out there that maybe is equally powerful, whatever, but I don’t I don’t know them. When you find them, please let me know. But, but I am confident that these are very, very powerful, simple, elegant tools that can give you remarkable experiences when they’re used in a short space of time. And I just wanted to you to see how these all again, how they work together, and that they are all centered on this human element that is really important. The human element is really important for everything. And so that as you develop your your programs and your procedures for how you organize your offices and how you organize your teams and how you organize, when you keep and revisit and as I said in in the class earlier this week I plan on doing having these kinds of utilizing the
the LM, the stakeholder driver template. Don’t just do that once with people because a even your your, your employees, your your peers, your various stakeholders where they were last year will be different this year. Where they are this year will be different than next year. So when you go back analysis This What seems to be the same questions, you will, you will gain new insight into where they are and what needs to be done now, because also the organization, your work, your team will have already moved forward itself as well. Everything is moving, everything is in flux. And so just because we feel like we’re asking the same questions, is not exactly true, because everything will have moved. So I just encourage you, I use this to encourage you to, to do definitely draw upon these tools as we go into them. And we dealt with in the resources area, which is that we really dug into the human area, because most of the time when people deal with resources, they think of terms, the first thought, especially for nonprofits, and for for, for profit organizations, it always go goes straight to where do I get money. But when you see that your greatest resources, and you understand that your greatest resources really are human beings, and that when you’ve got inspired, active, can connect and engage committed people, the money will find its way into the organization, when people don’t quite understand the value of what you’re doing, aren’t really clear about why you’re doing it, or the benefits for them to help you. What are the chances that they’re going to reach into their pockets, and donate even membership money funds, or, you know, be a donor, or recommend somebody else to come with you, and invest their energies into your organization. So the key thing, and that was part of one of back in one of one of our classes too, is, is always pay attention first, to having the right people in the right places, and you get some of these things. So that it when these become your standard operating procedure, your SLP when you start with people and start investing in people, and start with finding out and understanding their concerns, their what what what is driving them, when that’s your beginning place, then you can go far, you can go fast, a whole lot better than by worrying about the bottom dollar. The dollars. First, yes, you have to have money. Yes, that is critical. Yes, we need those kinds of resources and other resources we need the wheelchairs we need, we need the testing, we need the this that we need all of these things as well. This is just giving clarifying what are the priorities as you invest in your teams, your organization, etc. And, and I make this effort to underscore it. Because unless that effort is made, the old default is always to will, how do I get money? Where do I get my money from? And guess that’s important. But first, invest in people First, put the right people in the right place.
And yes, there’ll be challenges and they will come up. And when we find the right way to co create with others. We can be surprised how how people will step up how people will respond, and the ideas that come come forward. But we couldn’t have just simply set back and analytically assessed and figured out on our own sitting back and out, you know, ivory tower of sorts. So, in some ways, you know, this is it. I know I’m a little bit of a dense speaker and i and i and i apologize for for I hope some of these points, maybe sound like I’m reiterating. But I do hope that they sink because they’re really important. And as much as you you know if it sinks in and you go forward and you go off course That’s fantastic. That is absolutely fantastic. But right now, what I want to do is open this up for any questions that you may have about anything we’ve gone over today, in the in tomorrow, we’re going to go more into the X Factor and into our tag system. So the other two main pillars
and, and,
and there’ll be an I’ll have an invitation to something else for you tomorrow as well. But beyond that I, we will pay attention to each of these main, these main pillars, these three main pieces in the course of these three days, but rationale, questions about any of this that we’ve gone over today? And they could be questions or comments or thoughts as you reflect about anything that you have heard or experienced? Just open up your mind in a where a small enough group that just open up the mic. And
Karen, I was
you said very early today,
something about level four leadership and level five? What are those leadership levels? Okay, um, let me get
get not I will
get things out of the way so that I can stop that share, I will find
a
document I think I’ve got in here that I can just quickly pull up that.
Okay.
So, here we go.
So level five this is.
So you’ve got the concept is in a way is is kind of very simple. But you know, here, okay, back in the pretty much more. If you had walked into borders bookstore, which now a number of you have never even probably heard of borders, bookstores, other than its now history, you would have found in there. Usually sections have sections about business leadership, as much as about they had business management. And even all the CEOs, all the leadership was still kind of considered management and even that they have language, it’s management, senior management, right? In in organizations. So you’ve got levels of leadership, you have people who are highly capable individuals, and they can be experts, they can be the top level experts in the field. But just because you’re an expert expert doesn’t mean to say you know how to run a team, which is next level up. So many times the people who are actually the very best at something I’ve been asked to handle a team. And then you discover, well, they’re really smart, but they’re allows the team leader. Right? Anybody ever experienced a lousy team leader? Probably at some stage. Now, they may have been, you know, the teacher’s pet in school, who knows, or they may have been somebody who really was exceptional at that skill. But they’re just not a good manager of other people. But so then you have team leaders. And then then you have the next level, which is where they are actually competent at what they do, and they can not only handle a team, but then they can also work effectively with other teams, and peers. And so in that way, they’re a competent manager. Now, some of those folks then become many times the CEOs of large corporations, for example. And those large corporations could even be nonprofits, they could be for profits, they could be any kind of structural organization whatsoever. But what happens but this kind of effective leader here is often is understood to be more more like what I had said the command and control type of one where a top there used to kind of running the show, and they don’t necessarily know Know how to lead well in terms of collaborative efforts. So they lead by,
they lead by, you know,
command command and control rather than by collaborative decision making, or legislative type of decision making legislative decision type of making a level five leadership, which is where nonprofits, or at least social enterprises tend to be a here because beyond the having the, the CEO position beyond being the top dog in the organization, even, or let’s put it this way, even the top dog here in this organization, excuse me, say top dogs, but it’s just language. They see that beyond their position beyond their role, they are answerable to the mission of the organization. Now, sometimes in some organizations, people say they have a mission, but in fact, they want to be the command and control leader of these organizations, when push comes to shove, they actually do not serve the mission, they serve themselves. That’s one of the challenges that can happen, especially in social enterprises. Because many times, even when people don’t intend to become for their ego to get wrapped up in everything, they say, they are there for the mission. Life happens human beings are human beings. And it can mean that, that, okay, I’m sorry, but I’m first, and the organization is in service to me. So a true level five leader really does lead for the purpose of the mission, they collaborate with other people, they learn how they’re more of a legislative leader, just like you’ve got, you know, supposedly, you’ve got your, you know, your senators and your congressmen or whatever they are there, in theory, not for them, their own longevity and their own purpose, then they’re to represent the people for the sake of the nation. And so they work together, they figure out ways to work together, even though the interests are different than its complex environment. But still, they persist, they persist and persist, and they work for the betterment of the country.
Ideally.
But anyway, there in lies, you know, the the concept of the difference between a level lot a level five executive and a level four, effective leader where many of the big corporations are owned, or virtually owned by by the CEOs, and, or, you know, the dollar is the CEO is so welcomed up in in the dollar value of the company, but that it’s the same as them, but they’re not really working toward a bigger mission than themselves. And so that’s this simple concept of level five leadership and differentiating that from the more traditional corporate world. Got it?
Other questions?
Comments, thoughts?
I’ve got a quick question for Fernando, what’s your what’s your thesis on?
It’s about enterpreneurship. And it’s, well, it’s about specifically about acceleration programs, or accelerators for intrapreneurs, so I’m concentrating on Mexico. And what I’m working on is to try to define if the accelerators take into account several characteristics from the founders, when they He said which startup will be accelerated or not?
So, so and in that situation, you’re looking at the, you’re looking more than, like the angel investors and things and how they decide is that is that what you’re?
Yes? Well, right now there’s like a new a new type of investors. And they are they are called like, as a incubators, they are called accelerators. And one of the of the main purpose of the of the of the thesis is to explain which are the difference between an incubator or an accelerator? And then to investigate, like, how are they working in Mexico? Because they are, they have been growing from the last years, like in the US and the UK, but it makes it good. They have been growing lately in the last four years. So we’re trying to explain like, why intrapreneurs decide to enter or to apply to these programs, and how the accelerators decide which startups will be selected for, for the programs.
So
yeah, and because Absolutely. What works in in the Bay Area in America is not going to be exactly the same. But the situation down in Mexico, for sure. Yes, yeah. Wonderful. And thank you for sharing that. Yeah. Yeah. Exciting.
Yeah. So
Gosh, I might be giving you more of your day at this rate. You know, does anybody want to reflect on or or ask any questions about the? Oh, I didn’t, I will give you
let me drop that.
For those of you who don’t have it, the document my computer, I just giving you the that, if I can find it up. I might have to do it later. But you guys can if you’ve got any questions, but the stakeholder driver document? I’ll drop that in the
if I can find it.
If I can spell it, right.
So that’s just an in the
that’s in the chat box for you, if you want to download that one.
I don’t know whether I’ve edited it since I gave it to you guys.
But you can use that as a
as a tool. What are those tools, those useful tools? Well, okay, so since I’ve got a lot of discussion, and I left you guys time to give feedback or to ask questions.
But do we have a group of
got a group of very quiet people?
Yes.
So um, I would like to reflect on the last thing you were talking about, like human resources, like the importance of human resources, against financials, and maybe numbers that sometimes some NGOs may go more through that way, or counting just numbers and financials and looking for those milestones instead of working on people. And I think I’ve got the opportunity to work in an NGO. And it has been pretty difficult for me, because I have I have been working on a project that was really small compared with the other projects that they were working on. And I was really committed to the purpose and I was really, I didn’t Well, I feel like identified with the project. And with the purpose that we have, I really feel and thought that it was something that was really making an impact, but it has been a really small project. And they have instead of I don’t know, like 1000 students that will be working with us, we just have like 100 or 60. And for me, it has been a challenge to try to, to get to, to let them know or to explain them that even though we have been working, or we have or we haven’t had the growth that they expected, and those numbers that maybe other programs were achieving. We were Have patronized stakeholders. And I think that’s something that was really important for me, because we have companies and people that were really committed with the, with the program, because they really, they really trust and they really engaged with what we were doing. But the thing was that my own organization, the NGO wasn’t, wasn’t feeling that we were fulfilling the, the milestones, or they are the objective The, the goals that they have, because they just think on the, on the numbers of people that we achieved, and the money that we have been raising. So what I get to learn from this experience was that if if our team was committed, if our team, our people was able to understand, like, what we what we were really doing, and that they really think and trust in what we do, were able to do great things, even though maybe we’re like running against what they what they really want to do. So. And because of that, and because of the grade program and the the grade, I don’t know how to say like the pillars that we that we constructed for it, in order to present it and to share it with other stakeholders, we’ll get to raise money afterwards. And we get to get people to trust us and to give us some donations that maybe they weren’t expected. And that was something that for us, I think it was really grateful. And it makes us realize that if we are really doing what we want, and if we get to do to show that to other people, they will be trust, and well, they will trust you. And they will they will continue
help. Right. So I think what what what I hear you saying is that your small group was very aligned, the mission, the the stakeholders, and the the teams that were working on it were very, very connected and align to, to the mission and the purpose and everything was aligned. And it sounds like that teams alignment, and the NGO wasn’t quite aligned. And so that’s, that’s exactly one of the challenges that that organizations, NGOs, corporations, whatever have, and so these other two pieces that we go into, in the next couple of days, you know, are address that so that you can identify ways to, quote unquote, fix that problem. Because when you notice that it’s very natural, in some ways, it’s very natural, but it happens, it happens everywhere. And the effectiveness of a small team of a really aligned small team is is you’ve experienced, it clearly is powerful. So then, how do you scale that? How do you ensure that that doesn’t just happen here, but everywhere else in the organization, it’s, it’s good, but it’s just not quite doing what it really could be doing or needs to be doing. And so it’s exactly that, in a sense, that point that we’ll be looking at tomorrow, and the next day, the other two pieces of this, that will help when they all of these three come together, then you can create a powerful small team, and you can scale it. Or if you’ve got a dis connected organization that really couldn’t be doing more, it really couldn’t be doing more, just by the very nature, that you’ve got people in an organization, it couldn’t be doing more understanding the potency of the human being, then what is the way to bring that into alignment so that it can be coming in at very, very powerful entity? And not just, yeah, it’s good. But you know, it’s really sad that it’s not doing what it could do. Because sometimes a lot of the loss and grief that we have in our lives is for what what could have been, rather than what was built and then was lost. It was what what could have been what should have been? What what would war what we would have loved to obscene and we grieve it, even when we grieve the loss even though there was nothing to lose, but we see the potential, you know, and then and then we want to see that grow. We want to see it blossom. And so precisely these three pillars, I mean, we could go into management practices we could go into you know how to handle HR, and how to become good speakers and how to do you know, there are so many Many elements to, when you when you as a, as an entrepreneur, when you’re as a, as an advocate, you need to be able to convey your message you’ve got to be able to speak, you’ve got to be able to write, you’ve got to be able to, you know, balance your books, you’ve got to be able to submit all of your information to the IRS every year, you’ve got to sustain your, your 501 c three status, or whatever it is, there’s so many elements to, to running a business, and for profit, not for profit, it’s all they’re all businesses, you know, functions, organizations, whatever, and you’ve got taxes innocent. So there are so many pieces that one could go into and, and look at, you know, teach about or whatever, but, but because, because we’re talking about social change, and about impact in society, improving society, operating as optimally as we can, even when everything is very confusing, gray territory, you know, difficult and challenging. What are the things that we need to focus on that will help us the most, the quickness? And in order to do the best? Will we be able to solve everything? No, can we be the saviors of the world? Probably not quite, would be nice, but that would probably require a magic wand.
So given that, that’s probably not going to happen, then look at you know, how can what we do? How can we be assured that what we do really makes the optimal difference. And that’s been my focus and my concentration, and that’s why these three parts, and I wouldn’t have known this, I didn’t know this years ago, because I didn’t know a lot of things. But, you know, to the extent that I can provide these the these core things from very many, sometimes very expensive, or, you know, and not just financially but other kinds of lessons, then, and, and seeing what works, and seeing how things have done well, and putting it all together, then then this is why these these three pillars so yeah, anyway, exciting to hear that you had that experience with a with a very effective team. Because you will take your carry that experience with you into everything, and you will know the potency of a team and what you can get done. And that’s that’s a very powerful lesson. That’s fantastic.
Thank you very much. Well, I think it would be really excited to, well, really exciting to listen to you next day, the following days, in order to see which other tools you’re you will be shown to us because as you were saying, I think it was the biggest The biggest challenge was to to be able to scale up and to be able to have the real the effect that we really wanted to have. And sometimes, as you were saying, you may you may I studied business administration, and you may be tough to those HR, politics and financials and everything. But when you get to be working with a team on when you need to have leadership and you need to be working with people on get all of these together. It’s sometimes that’s not something you will learn in a classroom, it’s something you need to be doing it experience and you need to get to, to get to know people. And as you were saying, with the stakeholders to learn, which are their needs, and what do they really want to be able to have that empathy and to be working with them collectively and in a collaborative way.
Yeah. And because the amazing thing is when you work with your stakeholders that way, it’s and as I said, as I went through, even just that, that question, the template, even at that level, the person that you’re interviewing is getting that. So you’re not taking any you’re not you’re not just asking them for something. Yes, you’re gathering information from them, but it’s also the way that you can then continue to work with them and building that kind of engaged relationship into everything that you do that kind of mindset and heart set. And all of that is just because many times we think, Okay, well, you know, we care about people, but I’ve got to get back to business. But this is really an issue of business. I’ve just got to do as if that two different things as if they exist in a different person in a different structure, but it’s not. And so it’s so important to and that was again why I even structurally or visibly put that in Center the human element in the center of those dynamics, because when we keep that there, when we keep that there, and then the rest of it can explode. Because it’s all in the end. It’s, it’s human stuff. And yeah, we can be particular and we need our financials, and we need our analytics, and we need our data, and we need our AI to help us. And I will analyze all about data, and this will be critical and, and then there are ethical questions about AI and all of that. I mean, there, there’s, there’s so much in here, in all of this sort of stuff. But, and, and so much a part of my own. My own personal agenda is to get the tech and the tech world and tech methodologies and the uses of, of AI and analytics and big data and whatever else, you know, to become part of the way even the UN operates. And so yeah, I want to get into the nuts and bolts of data and analytics, as well. But you’ve got to get things, you’ve got to get the order, right. And you’ve got to get the core right, then all of that stuff wraps around and becomes useful. Yeah.
Okay, any other questions?
So then I’m going to live close out early.
I’d expect a big hug from grace on that one.
Anyway, anyway, um, I know, it’s been a fairly long day, shorter than what could it be. And I hope that we’ll see you back again, tomorrow morning, at eight o’clock my time. whatever time it is your time. Please do come back in. I know, it’s intense. But you know, it’s like walking into a little bit of a time. I know, so many times conferences. And we can’t do that. I mean, if we all gone to a different place, and all met in person, I always used to think like, felt like it’s so many of the conferences I would go to was like walking into one end of a tunnel. And then a few days later, you walk out the other end. And it’s like you could have been anywhere in the world. But for those few days, you just in this little cocoon of a space. You just in that little world with those people and you create an experience. And then you come out you go home, there’s still a world out here. But it won’t be exactly like that. But I still hope that these this full time walk together for for grace and Yvonne, you’ve been you’ve been through a lot more with me already. But also that it’s good for you, Danielle and Fernanda. Anyway, so I thank you all very much for being here. If there’s no other comments or questions before we close out, we’ll finish up the day. And then we’ll see you at eight o’clock tomorrow morning. Just have one thing is a shameless plug.
Shameless plug in, in case anyone’s interested, I don’t know, maybe you find you this might be something. But the working group on girls, which is an NGO Working Group at the United Nations, today is the first day of an 11 day social media campaign for raising awareness for the International Day of the Girl.
So
basically, every single day, it there’s like a different like, sub theme going on. And there’s gonna be conversations over social media, on Twitter and everything. Um, and anyway, it just might be a way to get connections and contacts and stuff through the conversations.
Just know that that’s happening. So one of the conversations,
I’ll send you, can I just drop the?
Absolutely, because part of part of this is I want you, I want you guys to talk to one another, you know, and, and network and get to know one another and share and also, this is fantastic, right?
Yeah. Um, here’s the actual direct link. So basically, every single day, I’m on this page that I just sent. There’s going to be another little card. So you’ll see October 1 congregation of Our Lady of charity, Good Shepherd, is the first day so they are hosting the day. And from 11am to 12pm. eastern standard time every day, there’s going to be a Twitter chat based on their theme like whoever. Yeah. So like, our like, women’s Federation is sponsoring basics, which is on education. So we’ll be talking about girls education, but then there’s like,
anyway, so in case that’s an interesting one. Well, I’m just glad I didn’t plan this thing on day six.
Another person doing that actually,
so I would have been fine.
giving people an opportunity.
Fantastic. Nice networking. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Mm hmm. Problem. Okay. So there you go. Fantastic. So we’ll see you all tomorrow morning. Eight o’clock. audio problems. Okay. All the best to see
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Change Leaders Masterplan Live October 2, 2020 — Day 2
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So first of all, welcome. Welcome to day two of the change leaders Master Master Plan live. Yesterday, we covered quite a bit of territory, we’ve still got some to go. But where I would like to start today, because I I know that even after yesterday, you know, I had a lot of as I thought about the where to go and what to do Oh, wonderful looks like James might be in. Um, I was wanting to invite you to, to give some reflections on or, you know, any kind of biggest takeaway, I’d like to hear from you. What was perhaps your biggest takeaway from yesterday, now that you’re here this morning, you reflect yesterday? I’m sure multitudes of thoughts were there. But probably by now, some things will stand out. And I’d be curious to hear from each of you. Your biggest takeaway?
Well, my biggest takeaway, one thing that really stood out to me most was the being a savior kind of syndrome. Understanding that, in as much as we’re trying to make a difference, and also trying to be social enterpreneurs and change agents. We are not Superman, we’re not Superwoman, we can mean some and lose some and all we need to do is to give it an effort. And, you know, do the things that we have the ability to do relate to the people that we can relate. Not every body wants this problem. So that made me realize something, when I worked for an agency, we run a program that was geared towards taking people from homelessness and putting them somewhere to leave.
Right,
we came to realize that some people who are actually homeless, do not want to get housed. Because they’re used to that system. And like, they don’t want any responsibilities. They don’t want anybody sending them anything in the mail, in terms of bills, right? Okay, and contented with whatever they’re doing, and it’s working for them. The only thing you can do for them is make them feel comfortable being homeless, that’s all. So and that kind of made me go back to that time. And it’s now also encouraged me first night that pursuing the customized approach system that we’re trying to develop where it is based on the beneficiaries, what they really want to an AWS, giving them the support to be able to accomplish that rather than what we really want them to become, and all that. So it’s given me some kind of catalyst and support to, to develop that system and work based on that, so that we wouldn’t be bonded, won’t feel disappointed that we didn’t reach anything, just a matter of giving someone the tools to be comfortable, where they do what they want to do. Now that they know so that I took away was the importance of investing in people. As NGOs, we have two things that we struggle with. One is financial, the other one is the human capital. Now, most of the time, people tend to pursue the financial part, and forget about the human capital, the human capital, in terms of the volunteers, the interns, board members and the beneficiaries. Rather, we’re looking at everything based on how much am I going to get for this program, to this program, and that program, and at the end of the day, the people running the program fall apart. So investing in people that human capital element, and in time, that’s key, I would say that 75% of the whole team then the other founding ideas, we need finance to accomplish some of the things we need. However, no matter how much you true, how much when you tried something without that human capital element will not work. So nice. Beginning to also give me that you know, sometimes you think, okay, I’m the only crazy man in the field until you see somebody Who’s on the other side of the field, screaming the same thing, you’re screaming and I’m that person, then you find out that I’m not just the only one, there are bunch of crazies out there. So I’m glad I’m in a good company, I’m crazy. So no focusing on that human capital fight. That was my big takeaways from yesterday.
Very good, I’m really pleased to hear that because of the kind of the human capital side the people side a kind of like the big rocks, you’ve done, have you done that experiment or seen that and I and I didn’t think of finding, there’s probably a thing on YouTube that physically shows the big rocks, small rocks. And when you’ve got a certain amount of space, when you put the big rocks in first, you can get all of the all of the rocks, because the little ones will fold in around the bigger ones, if you know to get them all in that same space. But if you put the little rocks in first, the big ones don’t have room, it’s so it’s just a very simple concept of saying, Get get your big rocks in place first, then a lot of the time the little ones will just fill in very easily all around the big rocks. And in this sense, getting the right people in the right place at the right time and focusing on building their capacities. Yes, and you’re still going to be doing all of that other you know, you’ve got to be working on the the human capital, the social capital and your financial capital, your regular typical capital, but your big rock saw your, your your people and really taking care of them because then they will also be the ones that will help you bring in those other two pieces profoundly. Very pleased. And then the other one I just, I’m the Savior syndrome and that kind of thing. Yeah, maybe you’ll eventually become Superman, but we don’t, you know, we sometimes start off as Super boys and Super Girls and then we grow into that. So maybe you will become but when at the wrong time or the wrong place, you know, there again. Yeah, and, and the piece like you said about, there are some people who just simply don’t want to be helped. And even there sometimes that’s at this time, they don’t want to be helped. And so when you relate to them in the way that the kind of way that you mentioned about helping them feel comfortable where they are, then they will know when they feel like they need something different. They all know who to come to and so and because all of us again that journey concept all of none of us stay in the same place but that’s one person who’s comfortable today living on the street he might get sick tomorrow and then realize that he wants something different so then he he could circle back around and come back to you having had the experience with you have your you know compassion and understanding and and not trying to force him to do something he didn’t want to do. So there’s kind of the the in the moment situation with those in the bigger picture. And later on I’ll go over one more thing about the responsibility to and responsibility for which is which addresses this this savior syndrome thing which is when we go beyond you know it goes back I guess to the very simple concept of you know, know what we can change you know what, we can’t we can’t change everything. We really aren’t
the almighty
you know, we can perhaps get an ear every now and then but we certainly can’t wave our magic wand there on that one. Thank you so much. You’re funny. I’m I’m delighted to hear hear that.
I yeah.
I
thought about
like the not like a specific topic but like the day in general. I work volunteer Lee in the Jewish youth Federation, Mexican Jewish youth
look
like the youth to make their institutions like more professional in a way by them. And we usually bring in people that have like a very strong project management or business background.
Mm hmm.
So they cannot I like that kind of knowledge to it, and also to the Federation itself. But I realized that it’s that like, you don’t have enough, if you do that, you can lose the human factor, like the human element, you can lose it very easily. So even if it works like to know how to structure a project and how to like, have make it to have a beginning, a middle and an end, it’s not the best idea to base off that, because the, the goal is not the same, like it’s not even close. So there, there is a way to professionalize an institution. Absolutely. Without having to take practices from something like you can learn from it, but only to a certain extent, you can professionalize your institution based on what a profit maker does.
You’re cutting in and out a little bit Daniella? I’m not sure why.
Let me try to change my
Is that better?
As your talk? Well, I’ll hear Yep.
So yeah.
Yeah. So that that was your reflection after yesterday. And, and again, that’s actually the point that you observed, and that came away with, I think, is a little bit there, I use the big rock thing again. But when when you get that human element clearly in the center, then absolutely you you have to have financial structures and practices and budgeting and clarity about what you’re doing in those very specific ways. But without that human core, at clarity about that human core, and without aligning those things, in a sense of round that human core, then then it as a social enterprise, as a social change endeavor, it gets a little knot, you know, to one side or the other. And so then you’re not really moving forward in helping really bring about the social change that is sought. So if I’m, yeah, thank you. It’s good to hear. I think you bring that kind of thing into and provide that core. And absolutely, you you want to get your experts in human resources set up and filing your taxes or even if you’re even if you’re unincorporated. But you know, or not necessarily fully responsible. Maybe some other part of the organization is more responsible for all of the financials and the, the submitting to the government. But you always got those things that you have to deal with as an organization, you and but keeping them in the right perspective and in the right place, instead of in the core. Is is what is really important. I’m again, I’m very happy to hear that that was a reflection, wonderful.
Popcorn, as Marilyn said.
Hi, Fernanda,
are you? Well, um, I think one of my main takeaways from district eight was understanding that it just is living our own journey with challenges and difficulties. And that means that when we were trying to, to impact other people, we need to think about when aligning those journeys. And for that, first of all, we need to think on the importance of systems of creating our own systems that will work and that will understand the people we are working with. And I think that’s the other most important thing that I get from yesterday, the importance of stakeholders that you will have multiple stakeholders, stakeholders, that they are really important and that you do need to know or you need to understand what are their necessities? What are their priorities, and what’s the role they play in your own inner frame for you to to be empathic and to to really get to know the people and to work with them and make changes that are that really contributes to what They’re doing it because that would change the way they feel about a project. And that will transform an interest to our commitment. And I think that that will be like the the most important things I get from yesterday, even though I also agree with most of the things that I’ve found yet him was talking about, because I think he was also talking about responsibilities and about, well, the importance of people that we that we talked about yesterday, and I totally agree with
no, yeah. Because, again, when we do for more, genuinely, and fully understand and dig into and out various stakeholders, then we’re able to optimize their engagement. And high performance is all about optimizing, it’s not just that you can talk to somebody, but what kind of conversation can you have, that really helps feed into the objectives that you have down the road? So the whole process of taking the time to really pay attention to your stakeholders, and not just that easily said, Hi, how are you? I’m good, yes, you know, but digging into that, taking the time periodically to do that, that gives you the understanding that you need to optimize. So you’re not just going along as an organization, but you’re building a base a real sound base for having optimal relationships and optimal outcomes. And you can, I think, you can see that, without that piece, there’s so much that’s missing. And, and then when you when we don’t really make those deeper connections, we can’t utilize, it’s almost like the the fuel of the human soul, you know, that that can get inspired and energized. And, and so much more than when you just heard it edited, you know, get through the day. So there is just you can just two times 10 times whatever it’s, you know, it’s it’s a little hard to totally turn it into numbers. But I think you can see that the the potential of taking this is your basic approach. And then going into all of your all of the other stuff that there are so many other people out there teaching about and and it’s absolutely needed all of the you know, the stuff that you go and your your, your angel investors will make sure that you learn about this and that and the other thing and all of the business fears and everything else or your your accelerator, investors, whatever it is. But in the end, when you’ve got this piece in place, it can just multiply, multiply, it’s so much more. So yeah. Wonderful. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah.
Not looking at anybody in particular grace.
Um,
I guess, like the thing that’s really coming up for me from yesterday, I mean, yeah, to be very honest, like, it was a little bit difficult to really take in a lot of things. Yesterday, um, today’s better.
Um,
but really, what my reflections are around is, um, yeah, kind of, like the human element to just in handling things. You know, we, you know, you talk about the human element and how that’s the basis around which you build a system, but also that’s on the micro level of yourself, right, in order to be able to
work to operate yourself.
Um,
and so I guess what was coming up for me was like, I’m, like, you know, there’s a tendency and like, I’m not the only one, I’m sure. Like, there’s a tendency to go into like, problem solving mode, where, like, you completely, like, get rid of your emotions, and you just like, just don’t even engage there. You’re just like, this is what I have to do. There. And, like, the danger of that, like, Well, I was like, reflecting on is like, the danger of that is that like, sometimes you just need to do that, right? Because sometimes, like things just need to happen, like, but the danger of doing that for too long is that it actually it can start to erode the relationships and the human element. have like your larger system. Because, you know, like, for instance, even just, you know, like, what comes up is like, in my, in my work, like, I came from more of a business minded organization to this organization and like this organization really focuses on human element like, like, their strength is the human element, I would say. And, um, and I had to learn to, like, unit emails be like, oh, like, you know, I hope you’ve this finds you well, like, you know, that, like, I’m usually like, straight to the point. And that can come off across as like, abrasive, and is actually, you know, detrimental
to the,
those inner workings that we’re talking about the lake, the sub, the sub, I’ll have words today, I’m sorry. But like that those those hidden things that pre rational, yeah, there you go for irrational things. So, yeah, I don’t know, just like the experiences that I was having yesterday, like, I needed to kind of like check myself and like, I remember that part to being present to my emotions, so that I can be, you know, fostering good relationships while handling situations. So
yeah, and I think you’re, you’re
learning how to be more masterful in our lives. And this is, this is, this is part of our long journey through life, you know, is how to handle all these elements, you know, you can save the three brains, that’s, that’s just kind of showing us the roots, you know, very existence of, of all of these amazing facets of human beings. But even then, just, I guess, one of the ways I think about it is that
I’m
just like, our bodies, you know, we get up in the morning, we go through the day, we get tired, we go to sleep at night, and then we go through this rejuvenation process at nighttime. Now. You know, even if you’re a little bit tired, generally speaking, we don’t just sit down in the middle of the day and go to sleep. I mean, sometimes, you know, we have naps, and people tried to bring in the power nap system. And, and, and be you know, whole cultures have been built around weather and temperature and siestas in the afternoon and the way they like to live though. And I think they’re you know, there’s, there’s really something for that, but you know, we’re in this particular system. But the fact remains that we need to sleep and we need, our brains need to get cleaned out quite literally, there’s this cleaning process at nighttime, of all of the, you know, snipping that goes on by the glia in the in the brain, all kinds of stuff, I find this out for my daughter who does now stem cell research or whatever, but neuroscience background. But um,
but beyond that,
we always need to take the time to you could say sleep on things. And the same thing for addressing our emotions. And yeah, we can’t always do it in the moment. But we do need to take the time to reflect and to assess and then to even and when necessary to, you know, help certain aspects of our emotional lives to be processed and dealt with. And when we don’t do that, yeah, in the moment, many times as you say, you know, about to jump out of an airplane. Yeah, it’s not the right moment to you know, go into a, you know, a session. You know, you can deal with that later on. But, but the thing is, when you don’t do it, as you say, when you don’t do it, that’s when the problems really come in. And, and again, that’s where I just want at this stage to encourage all of you to a pay attention to this to be aware because awareness is your first step, and it’s very powerful. And then when you build that into day to day life, then then you don’t have to deal with the same level of problems. When you deal with challenges in your life. I would say yes, no matter what we do, even the most perfectly prepared and, and daily ritual person, you know, is still going to face challenges, but then then they are better, better fed better. They’ve got a better state that you know, everything is just better to be able to handle the challenges because that is life. Our journeys will go up and down. And we don’t smooth out all of those challenges by having good personal habits and things like that. But because the hills and the mountains and the valleys are still going to be there, but as we address them, yeah. So, again, happy to hear that, that these pieces which are very important long term, and we do see so much. And just mean burnout, what was it may may of 2018, there was a
survey that was done amongst like
500,000 or more texts, 57% of them self identified as being burnt out 57% So, in that startup world, you know, and increasingly texts are needed in our world, because, you know, so much of it, so much of what we do now is reliant upon technology. So it’s that many, and what’s the average age of, of tech, you know, and that’s in all levels, you know, what, and even CIOs, the Chief Information Officers have big, big companies meet so many of them that they’re assumed to last, and this was from a report earlier this year, and I apologize, I’m not remembering exactly the source. But if you wanted, I can find it and send it to you. But it’s like the expectation of a CIO to last in a position is like, somewhere around about two years. Because then they deal with burnout. So there’s something that’s not being done quite right. As much as a lot of the systems, the Agile systems, the the,
the
capacity to, for organizations, new organizations, to bring their products quickly to market, they’ve developed amazing processes, and many of which need to be adopted by the more mature organizations, pieces of it, not all of it, but pieces of it, absolutely. And the mindset of that kind of that kind of quick, fast, innovative thinking, because there are systems that facilitate that. But when they are not, you know, around this sound core of caring for the human element in, because that’s what’s common to all of these companies, I don’t care which country, I don’t care what sector, I don’t know, I don’t care, whether it’s, you know, production line, meat packing farmers, you know, politicians, the human core pieces at the core of all of it. And so, having the systems, in corporations in organizations, which is an amazing social progress, you know, it’s what has allowed humanity to progress to the state where we are where our global, you know, global, where we’re global. And where we can fly around the world, though used to fly around the world, Americans can’t fly around the world anymore. But anyway, um,
nobody wants Americans in the moment. And understandably.
But, but we are we have gotten to and you know, just in this last century, is because of corporate structure, organizational structures and mechanisms. And then the latest innovation of these is really with, you know, in the tech world and, and the, you know, the agility of that tech world to be able to develop and evolve is amazing. Which is why I want to bring in some of those elements into what I you know, the pieces that I provide, but again, just without that core element. Yeah, it’s
even they can get lost. So, yeah, go ahead if
you work, great humans, Roman bad that I think will struggle with that. And I’m getting thinking about, you know, the difference. The difference charters and how do we connect these chapters, because you’ve come to one particular structure, they believe in their work because nothing is going to happen. The other sort of fields without something’s going to happen and coming from a background where you are meant to solve problems, put out fires So everything to use a buyer, and it’s got to be put out. And after putting out the buyers, you know, trained and conditioned, that probably defying, that means selling things. And then you have to start the process of beauty. Because you’re wired to put out fires. So everything is put out this fire apparatus fire, and in China put out fire, you also make some damages, because once you put out apples is gonna get everything wait and messy now. So we are wired that way, put out his fire. And nobody tells us okay, after you put out a fire dude that may come through and clean it up and make it shine better than you met it before. So you’re going through a situation where you put out fires, and then after putting out the fires, you catch flack for putting out the fires, because now you’ve made some mess. Yeah, until you start going into this self preservation mode. And why did I do this? Why do I do that? And it begins to affect the confidence and you that it begins to affect you in a negative way? Or makes you become arrogant that you no longer care. You’re human and either way. So how do we actually find that balance and build a bridge within this whole system. So at the end of the day, it’s going to be a win win for everyone that you don’t feel like no,
no one at the
meta level, at that kind of next level up. That’s where the whole concept of alignment comes in. Because those skills you have
are absolutely needed.
And the human element that perhaps is the strength of your organization is needed. The challenge is to align those two so that they’re they’re more
complimentary, rather than oppositional. And that can come again through the alignment of goals, and then the agreement of goals. And so then even when you do make a mess, and everything’s wet,
they will understand.
And you will understand anyway, it’s just as you know, as a funny says, Yeah, firefighters do make a mess. And that’s why you’ve got somebody else who comes in and cleans up the firefighters creates bit creates jobs, right. But anyway,
but anyway, right there,
I think it’s just,
as I said, at the metal level, part of what can help resolve those apparent differences. And sometimes they really are just current perspective, the way we look at things, and the mindsets with which we’re going about things. As they adjust, we can begin to say all, you know, you’re not really my enemy. You’re not really fighting me where, you know, yes, there’s tension. And in any situation, there’s tension, but it doesn’t have to be animosity, but we can read it as animosity. So a lot of this comes back to mindset issues or attitudinal or our capacity to really look at things from a bigger point of view and take things forward rather than just in the moment but very personal seeming difference. But no, these are all parts of the journey in leadership and in life. And, and, and, you know,
yeah, yeah.
Anyway, and James, I don’t know whether James wasn’t here and I’m not sure that you’re able to speak to you. Would you like to just introduce yourself if you can, if you can speak I’m not sure whether you’re able to unmute yourself James.
Ay, ay, ay ay. ay. ay.
In a very wonderful and very efficient, a much, much greater sense of knowledge during the rest of this program.
I
am James Shaw, a community developer. And that’s what I do that I mean, I can
only see your challenges and
bear with us
Looking for better communities
and much more community development.
We never own
the pieces
on the very high side and not have adverse effects on development of division, we find out that not the knowledge of many things
was what I was
going to learn not well, then I believe that
an attorney come around
our community
based on me,
helped me
change the game, nothing get
out of it. No, don’t do that. But you got to sort of situation like, I want the money right now. The community that the lab report is a caught up on the screen and ran away from the community. He said work in the community providing water and other resources sudden, after you look at many one of the coding languages, but he was not reminding me recently that I really would not or knew how to use your body
indicated for the only
two years that that patient and Latina is going like that in all situations.
I am able to learn a lot. And
I hope that
I’ll be able to
when when when
I get out. Maybe like, wow, like
they’re just a little kind of the
most and the real magic world, then. Yeah. And the challenges are much more. And then. So let me undo it. For now.
James, thank you so much. It was hard to understand absolutely everything bite I asked you, I hope that you can participate, or listen to most of what goes on today. And then if at the end of the day or first thing tomorrow morning, what works. What I noticed worked really well with you was when you made that short video on your phone and posted it to Facebook, then we can hear, see and hear. did see we can see and hear more clearly what you’re saying? Is that something that you might do for tomorrow?
I think I should be able to come up with that for tomorrow. That would be that would be
fantastic. Because
I know that
grace in the funny Did you get a chance to to see on the Facebook page what what James was doing? Yeah, and but we’ve got a couple of other folks here who weren’t in the training James and so I can let them get into the Facebook area for them so that they can catch up with what you’re doing and what you’re facing and dealing with. Because I would love to be able to connect them to what you’re doing and find your yes
go ahead games. I do. I think I did get some bits and pieces of what he’s doing and the channel is free. Which most NGOs like him face. Yes. The community leaders want money from him. Yes, for him to be able to do good gain that thing with this training the approach, you may learn one or two approaches to be able to address those issues, because the mindset is that James gets millions and millions of dollars.
And so they want some of that on some
of it. Jameson’s here to nickel and dime them. Meanwhile, James provably doing the things he’s doing out of his own pocket. Yes. And that’s the mindset. And unfortunately, he’s seen in brick walls. And another thing is also the approach that he used our initial because to try to get them. So I think, in this meeting, and with these connections and collaborations, we’ll be able to maybe a nice and peek out of each other’s experience to see the best practices. So James, if you don’t mind, I would like to, maybe you would like to have this conversation further with everyone here, because it’s beginning to seem like a collaborative strategic partnership, because I found out again yesterday, and throughout this whole session that the things that Greece has that I need, the my organization would definitely benefit from online needs to understand those things. There’s some things that Fernanda has that I basically need some as but these, because when she shared this video with someone, I’m like, Wow, she hasn’t grabbed on their hands on the human capital side of things. So those are things that women need, that things that Daniella also have. So I think, viewed in this collaborative partnership, and coming up with some kind of initiative to be able that we all can link to, not just for support, but also for courage to face some tough things down the road, because change is not the easiest thing, especially the person who have to go to make those changes, because some people are stuck in their ways. And some systems have resisted for centuries, that penetrating the systems and breaking them down, then transforming them is a little bit challenging it we need the collective support, input and call encouragement from people who are also going to us operating under level of leadership, you talked about our legislative style of leadership. But when you look at when you look at most of the successful leaders, they are not the legislative type of leadership, we’re told in some of these fortune 500 CEOs is you have to be arrogant, you have to take decisions, you know, just take it because you are eat. And that’s it. So it can have you know, when you look at looking at the human side of it, so we’re looking at a very good way to do it. And you’re looking at somebody who’s supposed to model that behavior, and they’re not the right books differently. So there’s a whole lot of things for us to learn. Just get over that for now.
And and that’s accurate. Having even just a small group and a growing group, this group will grow in time as peers to utilize one another as you know, as as resources, just even sometimes just for accountability, just to say have somebody to talk to who understand some of the pieces that may be sometimes others do not quite get yet or whatever, is can be invaluable just to have that kind of place to go and person to speak to what can I do? What’s an idea? How can we work on this? Sometimes, it’s just a, you know, a matter of very simple matter of, Hey, what are you up to now and hearing from one another? And other times, it’s like, I really need to, you know, think about this, I need some ideas, I need to brainstorm, you know, can we just talk about these things to try to get some some idea. So having a peer group I met this this is all of the, you know, you speak about leaders and you know, most leaders in fact, I’m not one person alone, as an island with absolutely nothing around them. They’ve usually got a support group now how they use that support group varies according to the leadership style, personalities and whatever else, but no person gets to win. They are on their own, not any of us. at different stages, we have mentors, we have friends, we have support systems, we have families, we have peers, we have people that we watch from afar and things that we emulate things that we, you know, we we grab and make use of, you know, we could not have got none of us could have gotten where we got to today, we couldn’t even be using a computer today without without others. But then in the the, the important level for as we move forward as change leaders, and as you said, If on you change leaders are often can can feel when they’re spearheading change can feel very solitary and alone. But that’s also why it’s really important to have a group of people around you who who you can turn to just even if it’s just to say something to them, to feel that, you know, that you’re heard. As human beings were quite simple, sometimes we just need to be heard. Sometimes it’s not, it’s not rocket science, we don’t need the latest and greatest advice or whatever. Sometimes it’s just to have somebody who understands us can can can allow us to move on forward powerfully. So I, I’m delighted to hear that you will reach out to James, James, please do at the end of the day, we’d love to hear your inner reflection from you and what you’re doing. And as you were speaking, I was thinking one of the places just the practical ways that you can begin the process of potentially adjusting expectations of some of your stakeholders is through using the simple tool of going to them and talking with them using the stakeholder driver
tool,
because that way you’ll start you’ll you’ll shift the relationship with them.
And,
and that is something you know, the how to go about making that difference is oftentimes one of the most the biggest challenges and when you approach them to say, I really need some input and insight and you are very, you know, you are critical for that, please allow me you know, time to interview you to understand, set up the appointment for the next week or something like that, then go back to them the next week. And then they have that kind of discussion with them. That brings you to a whole other level. And there might be the chance that some of these would end up having the same kind of profound impact that in five years experience was with the person, the board member that he spoke with a couple of days ago. And you can perhaps relate that story to him. But just as a simple tool and tactic that allows you to be potentially build a different kind of relationship with essential stakeholders is to have that kind of a conversation with them. Because in the end, that’s all we can do as humans anyways, have conversations, but what kind of conversations? Where are we going to take them? How are we going to operate? And this can, it’s it’s one way for you to begin to do something differently. Now one of my favorite quotes, you know, and it’s attributed to, to Albert Einstein, but who knows whether he really it’s not really clear that this was his statement, but it would absolutely be something you can’t expect to change, you know, to get a different result, when you do the same thing over and over and over again, or doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome is madness, whichever way you want to look at it. And he said it a few different ways, apparently. But we have to when we need to make changes. We need to do something that works, not just try one more time, something that has never worked in the past. But sometimes we just don’t know what else to do. So as a place to begin to make to shift that relationship with essential stakeholders. Some of the most difficult people in the world can be the most important ones. So again, in whatever way informally or formally or informally tried to have that. That kind of stakeholder driver conversation where you work to understand what is really what is driving them what it what is under the hood, so to speak of the in their life.
Well, thank you very much everybody, for taking the time to go through this and and for the reflections, and I think it’s interesting also for you to hear one another’s perspectives, because it, it helps you know, even broaden your own experience of the day. And it really does bring everything back to whether it was grace saying at the heart of it, you know, it’s still, it’s at the, at the core of, of what we do of what the human element is, we operate at the personal level, and then we expand out and it’s just this very simple expansion process. And one of the ways Let me see if I can find, just for visuals, it’s not again, it’s not necessarily Let me see if I can find it. Yeah.
Here we go.
One of the other dimensions of the the transcendence framework that that underpins all of this thinking that I systematize, the thinking into this transcendence framework
is that
when we’re not boxes, as much as where we’re, we may be more like onions. And so we are, you know, we do have this core, the individual level, which, you know, we’re a little bit like a, like an iceberg. People see the tips of who we are through, through our, what we say what we speak about how we present ourselves how we operate in the world, but still, most people only see. And the tip of the iceberg is a generous amount of visibility of what people see of us.
Karen can use them in a little
London, can I use the Kenya zoom in on the right, let me
Yeah, because the writings a little bit small.
Does that help?
That’s a bit better. Yeah. Okay. So, um,
as individuals, you know, how many hours of the day Do you speak to just think about it just narrowed it down to one, one other person? How many? How many? Even the person you speak to the most in your day? About how long in a day? Do you speak to them? just you know, maybe I can’t see this. I can’t see the chat. So just quickly, just log yourself on and just say, what, five minutes 10 minutes? Half an hour an hour that you actually speak to one one person in the day? One one specific person? I can’t see anything in the chat because I’ve got my screen share on so to
speak as in literally like talk or speak as in we’re texting all day.
Well, yeah, I guess you speak as in either texting or talking. So that Yeah, speakers in texting or talking and then I’ll qualify
you because like my boyfriend and I are like talking, like, all along the date. Like how are you doing? What are you doing? That’s like, since we wake up till we go to sleep?
Yeah. So that’s in actual fact, that’s not all day. Like it’s it might be a free, you know, three or four minute text time here or five minute or 10 minute text exchange here. And then later on another text exchange, can you just guesstimate an amount of time I just want to point something out here. So if you can turn it into a figure of some kind try to just do a quick calculus of the amount of time
any idea?
Maybe a couple of hours, maybe three.
Okay. And and mostly you’re texting. What’s your texting rate?
What do you mean texting me?
Um, how many words per minute Do you text?
Well, I haven’t thought about or thought about that. That’s my point.
So whenever an average text may have like, probably eight words,
okay, eight words, and how long does it take you to do your eight words? And so you do. You said, How many? Sorry, how many hours again today at eight, eight words a minute, eight words? Is it eight words a minute, eight words a 30 words per message? Like, um, how long does it take you to text the message?
I don’t know. 10 seconds. 15.
Okay, so,
uh, so what’s that? 15
It looks round finger it. Um, okay.
Uh,
you said 15 1010 a minute. 15. A minute. I mean, if you want to help, and we round figure this, but what but part of what I wanted, where I want to go with this. So you can come up with you can, you can be thinking the numbers at the moment. But part of where I want to come up with this is we think, at around 400 words per minute. Each one of us round 400 words per minute. So even while you’re texting a few words per minute, okay, even if it was 100 words, even if you were really good at texting hundred words per minute, which I doubt you would still be connecting with and sorry, again, how many hours a day?
I’m getting three,
I just just say I’m being really generous. Just say you can text at 100 words a minute. You know, that would be a whiz, you know? So 100 words per minute. And you do that for three hours a day? That’s the equivalent of that’s so that’s 300 303 hours. Oh, dear, I’ve got to get who’s better at math at the moment? I’m, I’m thinking about too many other things. But anyway, so just just a quick calculation, what’s it 60 times 300 times three, compared to if there were
400
words a minute,
for your waking hours. You know, I should have really done the math of that. But I wasn’t planning on going here, I should have done the math in advance. So I have some idea of the numbers. But I think you can see where I’m going that you live with you at a rate of 400 words per minute, for all of your waking hours. Even the person who knows you most is getting this compared to maybe, you know, if I don’t know whether you can see me in anyway, getting, you know, maybe I don’t know, a 20th
of you
in a day.
And I think I’m being generous in the numbers there.
In other words, even the person who knows you the most at the moment, only sees a little bit of you. Because you can’t share every thought every whim every feeling every emotion every every every. So I’m this is just to say that the who the world knows is just a tiny little piece of who you are. And there’s a lot going on in each one. We’re processing with thinking we’re rethinking, we’re adjusting. we’re deciding we’re backing off from decisions. I mean, there’s always sort of stuff with complex stuff going on. And then we we allow a certain amount of us to show but all of that stuff that goes on in our life is cumulative and is who who we are it’s who we are. So that was just to say, Okay, this little individual piece. And then if you imagine for a moment that what’s going on in reality in the world is you’ve got all of these tips of icebergs that are that are encountering one another. We’re not always encountering or we’re not always aware of all of the below the surface parts of the icebergs what they’re all doing in in our global affairs. Is there anything useful Pull for this other than noting that there’s a lot going on in the world that we don’t, we haven’t figured out and that we’re not sharing. And you know, there are so many dynamics in the world. And then you know, when you get out, you know, you go into your community level and you’re dealing with family members, sometimes you we treat, we say, Yeah, but yesterday you said this, but we haven’t kept up with what’s happened with them, since, you know, something may have happened to them since and yet we give them a hard time for what they did yesterday. Anyway, all this is just to say it’s a complex world. And so as you go out to the next level, you go from the community level into into the national levels, where you then have not only individuals, but you have groups of individuals that form their own character, and dynamics, those character and dynamics of those institutions then interact.
And we endeavor to navigate
those organizational levels. And then we get to the global levels, where we’ve got governments interacting with one another with all of the sub levels of complexity, the individual levels, so when you meet an ambassador, for example, a leader in the room, and if there are plenty potentially ambassador, that means they’ve got all the rights and authority to channel at least or to, in some cases, make certain decisions on behalf of the country. And they have their own personal issues going on of challenges. You emotional challenges, family situations, kids going to school or not going to school, wives and children, kids dealing with, sometimes with suicide, or just boyfriends or girlfriends or schooling concerns or getting into the university that they want to where to send their kids in the world, when they know they move all over the world. All of these pieces are, you know, come into each meeting that you have
with them.
When governments interact, you’re in. In fact, there’s kind of this interaction level going on at all these levels. And depending on the uniqueness of that individual, you deal with various somewhere their lives on their sleeves more than others, others have learned to totally tamp that down
and subsume it.
Sometimes for safety reasons. Sometimes it’s for the safety and longevity of their own families. I mean, there’s such a diverse set of realities, when you get out into this international inter governmental levels of engagement. But even at these lower and lower levels, you know, in terms of going out in the circles, and you can just see that there, the complexity is exponential. But even at the personal level, we all know how complex it is to live our own lives. It takes us all our time. So it’s this is just to bring awareness to and to the of the complexity of all of this. And also to as to the reason why it is important to not just take things at face
value.
But to at least allow people again, through the conversations that we have, through understanding people’s aspirations, goals and objectives, through understanding the challenges that they face. And it’s probably right at this instant. And it’s not always the biggest challenges forever. Some of them are some of them have perpetual challenges that seem to always have a lifetime. But they take on different shapes. If you dig in further, the challenge at that time is a little bit different. So just being aware for stop when you engage in relationships, that we’re dealing more with these layers of complexity. This is not meant to say that therefore it’s hopeless and it’s endless. But it’s more to say when you speak with somebody, you realize you’re you’re speaking to the very tip of the iceberg, not just the part that’s above the water. The tippy tip of the iceberg And, and just to remind you that your you’ve only got a little bit of the picture. And when it’s important, it’s when that relationship is important. It is so critical that you do go in and delve a little, not, you know, not pry, but make a genuine relationship because people want solutions to that the problems. Now, as the funniest said earlier, sometimes people don’t really want solutions, or what seems to be a problem for from my point of view, to them is not. So having that clarity about what they think is the problem is really helpful. Because that means you don’t have to keep visiting them and saying, Here’s here, why don’t you move into this homeless center on his phone, or whatever it whatever it was, it’s clarifying. So all of this is, is is there to clarify, because it’s when we, when we live in a fog, that we dwell in indecision. And as leaders, we do need, we do need some level of clarity, okay, you have, sometimes you have to make decisions, even when things aren’t perfectly clear. And you’ll know those moments and you will make those decisions, I know that you are those kinds of people. But if there are things that can help make decisions, you know, disperse that fog, then it’s really important to do so. And that’s just just having that clarity about the complexity and the levels of which and and that also helps you understand. When you do go and speak to somebody, if they are a local government person, then you’re you realize they’re thinking about these types of issues. And underlying that they’ve got them off family or even, you know, their, their their larger family concerns, as well as their own personal life concerns, which may be focused on career or it could be just, you know, focused on survival issues or welfare, ie you know, pay or whatever. When you when you speak with a traditional leader, you can you can, you or a religious leader, you understand that they are dealing with those rooms, and they are dealing with the other those others. So, you’ve got different ways to speak to people, and having that clarity about having ways to speak to people, and allowing them to feel that you are a person they can speak to.
Because you are
aware of their levels of concern is powerful. If you feel somebody understands you, by whatever means you believe they understand you. Or you might be more likely to want to talk to them? Or do you prefer to go and talk to somebody that you have no idea who they are?
It’s just simple. But so then it comes back to questions of how do people get that as quickly as possible, the sense that you really do understand them. And so somebody I heard somebody used the analogy one time, so you know, you’ve got you’ve got a really bad headache, you know, a headache that goes to the level of a migraine, so that you go to the doctor. And, and you you say say to the doctor, you know, I’ve got this migraine? And and then and then he says you’ve got doctor one and doctor to doctor one. Yeah, well, you know, you either need to, you know, take some stress off your life or, you know, how are you sleeping? Or what are you eating? Or usually they don’t ask you that sort of thing. Here, why don’t you know, why don’t you hear I’ll give you this prescription. How long have you had the headache for I’ll give you this prescription here, go take it or you go into maybe doctor to and they say, Yeah, I get you. I lived with this migraine for three weeks one time, and it kept coming back until I found out a way that I could deal with it. Which which doctor of those two, Doctor one or doctor two. Would you be more likely to do what they suggest that you do?
You can just put up a finger, one, one finger or two fingers.
Two, pretty simple. Again, not not rocket science, but we forget these things, when we get into the professional environment, or into international relations, or whatever it might be. So again, just by getting connected with people and understanding what they are dealing with, that they feel that you understand, that is the beginning of a solid relationship. And, and to, and that, that kind of understanding that and then acting on that as you work with people. You don’t have to tell them how to fix themselves. But when you begin with understanding, and them, knowing that you understand their situation, and what’s the best way to understand the situation, what’s better than asking them. It’s kind of it’s, it’s, it’s almost so silly how obvious it is. But how many people do it.
And it’s the doing, that makes the difference.
And so then when people feel like, it’s still you’ve still got the responsibility to have a solid program, to have a good communication system, to be able to articulate beyond that moment of understanding, to be able to articulate how solid your program is what it will really do for people how you’re operating, you’ve got to have all use your other systems in place, you’ve got to be solid financially and not disappearing The next year, because the IRS came in and took you away, because you weren’t filing your taxes or something like that. Absolutely. All of those things are essential. And I am not at all. I had to one of in one of my lifetimes, I ran a small bus charter and tour operating company in in New York City. One of one of my many lifetimes. And part of the reason why I was asked to go there is because the people who who were having problems with the company knew that I was pretty good at project management, so to speak in and dealing with difficult situations. And so yeah, one of the biggest issues was that a it was losing money and be the IRS was off to them. So and I was I was given the request, not to close the company, which of course, the first thought is, or should Dang, close the company.
But no,
take care of the take care of the IRS issues so that the people whose names on that IRS issue are not tracked down by the IRS and have their houses taken away and things like that, solve the issue and save the company. So that’s what I had to do. And I did it took me three years to clean up all the IRS to sell off old buses to buy new ones to turn it into a profitable it wasn’t making lots of money at the time that I sold it off. But I did sell it off as a profitable company that had a base of customers that had a life and a future. I just didn’t want to stay running a bus chatter interoperation business in New York City for the rest of my life. So I sold it off. But
But the
point there is I Why do I say that is I know what it’s I know what it’s like to have employees, I know what it’s like to hire and fire employees, please I know that you have to have all of the systems and the HR in place and your financials and and file your file your taxes. I had a my M my landlord was the MTA the Metropolitan Transit Authority. I had to renegotiate the existing agreement that I had and I was also the landlord for a number of other companies and in including a couple of bus companies that I am sure we’re running by the darker underworld of New York. But anyway, so and even one of the times I had to go down to the back of the property and ask my employees can you stop shooting guns back here? You know so I had I’ve had a lot of I have actually had some experience not only in the the project manager management side of fleets of Vote staying on budget, organizing people mechanics, supply chains, budgets, training, educating, handling International. So I’ve dealt with a lot of that sort of stuff. So Believe me, I do understand business, and what needs to be done,
and how
to go about doing it so that you can succeed. I do have experience with that too. And it’s precisely because of that kind of experience those years of experience. with years of experience working around the UN environment, where I would form literally my I would form working groups of
diplomats.
I didn’t,
the most effective stuff was done by forming working groups of diplomats, not through warm forming. NGO groups, though, NGO groups are needed also. Because having had that kind of type of experience, I was a consultant for the UN CIO, Chief Information Officer, and of 2017, to help them re envision how their their ICT network, international, or the information, information, communications, technologists network, so all of the you know how the UN has, like about 30 organizations, World Food Bank, UNICEF, the second The other thing, 30 of them, well, each of those organizations is a huge organization, they’ve got most of them have got a board, most of them got a CEO or CFO or CIO, you know, on every kind of ci, ci something. And this network was made up of all of the CIOs of each of those companies. So in part of the the UN’s agenda, to, for digital transformation, to digitize themselves to get out of paper, and whatever else to take everything on to digital. There’s this concept of digital transformation. Well, if anybody has studied in the realms of digital transformation, you know, that, that the digitization process is a part of that, but it’s not the only part. And the weakest part, the the part that people don’t usually get right is dealing with the human element, mindset changes, adaptations of daily processes, and the ways people relate and talk and communicate. So part of what I had to do was to help to create a, a vision paper for that ICT network. So they could see a way through the woods, so they could see how they, as a unique group, could contribute to that larger process. So I’ve, you know, I’ve worked in all of these spheres. And the, the pieces that I’ve taken out of all of these are what I’ve distilled down into this as the core, this is just the beginning. But it’s the core. And when you get this core, right, then all of the other stuff that you need to put in place to be a powerful, effective, impactful organization in the world. You’ve got the core in place that is needed. But this is the pace that has been so desperately missing from so many places, and why I’m focusing on this here. So yeah, I could go into you know, I go into all the other stuff, but I’m not not going there. Because this is what we’re focused on. And I just I just wanted to I guess that’s just a really long way of saying that. And, and three days of this, it’s going to probably be hammered into your heads. But I know that as you leave from the three days, you know, life comes crashing in or whatever. So as much as I can get you to think see and put a couple of simple systems in place, for your personal life.
And for
your organization where where possible. And sometimes part of where you can practice is putting it into place in your personal life. And we’ll get into more of the action sort of stuff to tomorrow. Today, I really wanted to look at some of the more leadership stuff and why it’s important for you to have a vision for yourself as leaders who really can, you know, have confidently go out even with the most difficult stakeholders and develop The kinds of relationships that will pull you forward in ways that almost nobody else could, so that even James could have the confidence to go out and to have those types of conversations that will make a difference. Will it fix everything in an instant? No, when you had need to have those conversations with quite a few people probably yes, but those conversations can be valuable and meaningful to you and to them as we went over yesterday, so that by having this being able to see this way through even the most difficult situations is what is important. So I’ve talked enough for this morning. Well, at least for this part of this morning, I’m going to give you your well well earned break so you can get up stretch your legs jump up and down. I probably should have you go and do some jumping jacks or something. But you know, feel free even during this you know to stand up and stretch your legs whenever you whenever you feel the need to is were going over this but um, so I’m going to give you 15 minutes 15 minutes bio break and coffee break or lunch break or whatever it is, and we’ll see you back in 15 minutes. Okay.
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Yeah, so go ahead. I’m happy for you to circle around and tell us your aha moments I absolutely.
I talked yesterday about how I had to do everything in my last job. Part of it was to find food and beverage sponsors for the event. And my boss has like, his own way of negotiating. And I came to the realization that each one has their own. Yeah. But mine was a little more like, human. Like, I didn’t talk to the other person, like I was talking to a brand, I was talking to a person. Yeah. And my boss didn’t like that at all. And since he knew that, and he didn’t like it, he put like another person to help me with that, kind of, because this person had more experience dealing with friends.
And the first thing that I noticed was that the people that she spoke with, that had spoken to me first, and then she like, kept, kept it going. They had a very response when talking to me, like they did like talking to her. That and the second thing was that it was very, it was a very different experience dealing with people that were in big, like brands, big companies, that people that had their own small ones. And that people are we’re like small brands that both the event and then could benefit from. Right. So the I think, like you said that the human the human element is not, it tends to get lost in bigger companies.
And I got I kind of saw that firsthand.
And at the same time, like Mike, my negotiating a way, worked very well with small brands and worked better with bigger brands and the other prisons, but my, my boss didn’t like it and didn’t agree with it. And he didn’t even thought of it as a professional way of negotiating. He like put someone in the middle. That ended up being like counterproductive because they ended up wanting to talk to me. Anyway. So I had like this. Like, there’s a lot of things, even yesterday with the when we’re talking about the the responsibility modes. I’ve been having those moments like, yeah, I’ve been through that I can I can, I can relate like, oh, that happened to me, but it’s easier to handle it. And to be more aware of it when you have the name. Like never heard of responsibility motes. It was Joe’s responsibility for me. Right. So naming things, it’s it’s starting to make a lot of sense to me.
Right. And, and that’s part of the process of I guess, this, there’s a little bit of me. And in one of my lifetimes, I went to a seminary. And so I not only study physics, but I also studied theology. But one of the things that I’ve actually I’m not quite sure I was, I think I mentioned that I yesterday about Maryland, that’s where I met her. I wasn’t quite sure that I was the right person to be in a seminary. But anyway, I was there. Um, but so the Bible wasn’t my biggest thing. Excuse me for all of the very
anyway.
Neither here nor there. That’s the Australian part of me, or who knows what, I’m not going to make excuses. It’s just that this is just who I am. But one of the interesting things that I always found the one of the very first things that Adam did in the garden, what did he do?
Not the second or third things. What do you mean walk around the garden doing?
Okay, I feel like I know the Bible a little bit, you know,
he named things
it’s a way that we, as humans get a handle on things to, to, to kind of grassman figure out what we’re doing. It gives us a way to even through language, figure out you know, make it distill something out of this fog of confusion and everythingness into something that we can do. So when we, when we find a name for something, it’s it’s a very in a way, it’s quite a powerful thing. And there are dangers, like everything. there’s pros and cons, you know, it just like, you know, you name a disease, but you’ve got to be really careful that if you say, Well, I think I’ve got this but you don’t self identify You don’t become that man, it becomes an a facet or an aspect of part of the way of how you operate, it doesn’t become your identity. Even you get into the areas and why names and identity is so critical to the human being, you get into a lot of the, the violence in the world. So many of them are actually associated with identity based issues. And because I identify one way, this person identifies another way, then we can’t agree, or were different. And therefore, instead of saying, I, you know, I have this identity, you have this identity, and we can make great things together. But, you know, so there’s a combination of mindset naming, but anyway, so though, it kind of just took me off on one of my many tangents. But when you, when you can identify something in your life, it gives you a way to then explore it a little bit differently. And then you can know where you’re going. It’s kind of like, That’s why, you know, we name islands, we name rocks, we name parts of the earth, we name the state of that state, we need, we name this community, and in a, in a larger city, we, you know, we each one of the first things that ever happens to any of us is we get a name, we don’t even know it, we get a name. So it’s, it’s part of a very fundamental to who to who we are. And so yeah, as you identify that one thing I’d like to add on onto this about the the arc of responsibility is that when you get to the responsibility to and and there’s a key piece in there, and I don’t have the perfect solution for this event, and just noticing certain things is that part of the importance of separating out what we’re responsible for, and what we’re responsible to is because then we don’t, we don’t stay attached to the emotions, of being responsible for and we can let them go when we’re being responsible, too. And oftentimes, what happens is that we that in our endeavors in our helping endeavors, we hold on to the emotional components of what it means to be responsible for, even when we should be at the stage of responsibility to, and that’s what kind of incapacitates us when we see that by the time we get to the responsibility to or where we really need to be being responsible to another person. They’re not a thing. And therefore, you know, when I mean a baby’s not a thing exactly, either, but they act, they act much more like women, you know, they kind of, they’ve got to be managed and handled and that you know, whatever else, but as they become more fully human, and they you know, their own capacity for decision making, and whatever else grows, then that risk, the emotional elements of being responsible for something need to be, of course, let go. And that’s freeing for us, because then otherwise, we feel burden, we feel like we’ve failed, because we haven’t done the job, when in fact, it wasn’t our job, I cannot make decisions for my children. Now that they’re not children. You know, anything more than I can make a decision about a rock out on the road, that’s them. It’s inappropriate, that I even tried to make decisions for them. What I can do however,
is I can help
with accountability.
So when we get to the responsibility to one of the main things that we do for others, is be an accountability partner, or a source of accountability, knowing their knowing that they have made a determination to do such and such I can’t make a person do that. But what I can do is I can say, Well, I heard you say this, you said you are going to do that, uh, how’s it going? And most of us actually, even though sometimes it feels a little bit like a you know, a bit of a hit on the nose, we actually at another level, let that you know, lower we appreciate account being held accountable, especially for the things that we Have Said, and or no are important. But sometimes we just simply need that, that accountability, it’s actually very important for all of us, it helped keeps us on track. Because life is busy and diverse and exciting and challenging and overwhelming at times. And, and, and to stay in that sense to stay on on track, sometimes we just simply need those accountability partners. And that becomes that can be and that’s one of the things that that a good mentor will do. As you as you know, Fernanda, you’re you’re part of what you appreciate about your, your, your mentors, that, that you come up with probably come up with some idea. And they say, Yeah, well, that’s a really good idea. But have you thought about this, have you thought about this, and have you thought about this, so what they’re doing in that is, is helping you stay on track for your bigger goal of your, of your thesis or of your work at hand. So what happens in that arc of responsibility is we go from being respected, and we need to differentiate those those levels of responsibility. And, and even then you add to that those dimensions, the onion of, of the levels in the expanded levels at a global level, you recognize that, you know, if you’re an individual, the reality is, like it or not your problem, unless you’re in a position of governmental responsibility, there are certain things that you cannot do at the governmental level, you can influence you can introduce, you can engage, you can inform, you can win over it, you can try to show that you can’t make the decisions of government. You know, so even just having, again, all of the the these little structures and names and things, just help us understand where it is in this big otherwise amorphous blob of, of words, and discussions and decisions to be made. And sometimes we can’t quite identify where we are. And
as you know,
one of my lifetimes was 10 years at sea.
Not at sea all the time. But around boats to the extent that I had my Coast Guard captain’s license, and all that sort of stuff. And that takes quite some sea time to do it. Plus, you have to pass like, you know, permitting and whatever else. But that’s just to say that when you spend and I think life is so much more part of what was wonderful about the time at the ER, I spent time at sea in Australia, I spent time at sea over here up in Alaska, West Coast, down south northeast coast, wherever in America. And I skied between Singapore and Malaysia, one time back in the 70s. But anyway,
water speed that is not snow skiing.
That when you spend time at sea,
and you’re not just piloting around the coastal areas, in other words, you’re out of sight of land. In other words, you’re in on relatively unknown territory. And even when you’re piloting and going, basically up a coast or down the coast, or, you know, shore clumps across little expanses of water. Do you know what a good Captain or if you’re on a larger boats, whoever is responsible, you know, at you know, at the time, what they spend most of their time doing,
figuring out where they are.
Now, that might sound funny, in a way.
But when you’re hitting somewhere, if you don’t know where you are, you don’t know which direction to go in. And waves underlying currents that you can’t see and that at the surface you don’t know are there and you don’t know what they’re doing to you.
To actually know where you are is not so simple.
And it’s one of those things that you spend an awful lot of time doing so that you can course correct Because the most efficient, jerk, efficient way to get to your destination is to stay on track to go the straight line. Of course, there is no straight line at sea or in life. But in order to straighten out that line as best as possible, you do need to be constantly figuring out where you are. And that takes a triangulation process, it takes understanding how fast you’ve been going the direction you’re going in, you also have to know then how to course correct this because you have to know your destination. Without knowing your destination, you’re just a float. And that’s nice, but it doesn’t get you very far. And sooner or later, you’re going to have to go back to land and get get food, water and whatever. But life is a lot like that. And so we do have to spend a lot of our time figuring out where we are, and it constantly changes. Again, from the wind, the waves, the the way that the vessel, your vessel, either you or your organization operates in the current environment. Some boats really have a hard time with big swells some a fine. You have to know your vessel. One of the biggest challenges for people at sea is understanding the currents, the deep currents, like up around the tip of Australia, if you between Cape York, sorry, the tippet I don’t know which way you’re looking at it anyway. on the eastern side, you’ve got Cape York Peninsula, and then right above it, you’ve got Does anybody know what what country is right above Cape York Peninsula in Australia, or geography? Okay, geography lesson. Okay, Papa New Guinea. Anyway. So right between there, it’s not a it’s not a very large channel. And
between the tide changes,
you get currents and the same down the South in best straits, you’ve got tides that go between Tasmania and the main body of Australia. And the current scope of going through there can be 810 12 knots,
basically, miles per hour,
nautical miles per hour.
And
if you are a sailing vessel that is doing really well under optimal conditions, with the winds heading the right way, and you can go six or seven knots. And you’re not paying attention to the currents, the time of day, what’s actually going on deep down below you. According to the waves on the surface of the water, you’re going six, seven, not seven miles an hour, with the wind blowing in a good direction. In fact, across the ground, you’re going backwards. So it would make more sense that you stay at anchor until the tide changes, then you can go at the right time 11 knots with the current add on another six or seven knots on the surface. And you’re all of a sudden going almost 20 knots. That’s just a real life. Way to say that. When we operate in the world, it’s really important that we do look at what’s below the surface, we have to understand the deep currents that are going on. Because they can impact us far more than we know. And for all intents and purposes, when we look at the waves, we test the wind, we see the the speed of the boat through the water at the surface. But when that whole body of water is going
in another direction.
We go backwards.
This happens in life.
We haven’t navigated this world before. Nobody has. Nobody has. So all the more reason why we pay attention to all the different factors in the world that we do pay attention to figuring out exactly where we are and to triangulate and if you notice, if somebody was actually paying attention to where they were, they would notice that we’re going backwards and either quickly drop anchor or go into a harbor and wait there for a while and then come back out again. You make different decisions when you have different information.
And so as you look at even things like, you know, how do you operate with people, you know, it is really valuable and important to get in, you know, get always these whole, bigger pictures, the deeper profound stuff, to see what the difference is between being responsible to and being responsible for, it can make an enormous difference to your experience. So the outcomes of your experience and what you’re doing.
And yeah.
So why did I tell you that story? It’s a fun story. It’s a real life story. But also, I think, as part of the main point there is I wanted to make is that in these journeys on life, nobody has done this before. And there are certain things that we do need to do, and as as leaders of your life, and I truly believe some of you are already significantly leading organizations are aspects of organizations. And part of what what will be your work is to constantly assess where you are, personally, organizationally. And as we go into this next section, what I’m going to do, what I’m going to jump into now is a way of working on The X Factor, you know, is working on and clarifying who you are your unique pieces and components, which is, in a way, one of the ways of saying, okay, who am I now? Can you hear me now? Who am I now? Next, next? Next time you hear anybody saying, Can you hear me now, you can also think, you know, who am I now, because we change, we constantly change, we some of it is just small adjustments, but some of them at pivotal moments in our life, we make significant changes of jump, or adjustments, we have, you know, either job changes or experiences that put us you know, quite quickly that seemingly quickly, although it’s tends to be cumulative, and then and then all of a sudden wearing a whole new place.
But
a really important piece of it is to, you know, have a way to identify who you are your uniqueness in the world and your unique contribution and the goals that you’re endeavoring to make. So now we’re going to jump into and we looked at this in our class, but we didn’t really do an exercise. And that’s what I want to I want to walk us through today to take the time to look at some of these to do it as as more of an exercise. So let me for a stop before I give you specific times to do this. And I’m going to give you in a few minutes, I’m going to give you little little things to work on your on yourself a few minutes at a time, and then to share them with one another to practice saying that in a very short and concise way. Because we realize sometimes, you know, it’s very easy to sometimes think that we’re very clear about what what who we are and what we’re doing until we get to trying to explain it to somebody in a sentence or even a couple of sentences. So, this will be an exercise with clarifying our X Factor. Now let me go into I’ll pull up the screen that I want to do for now. And this X Factor and I think it’s for those of you who were in the class
is
kind of the sweet spot
of four main elements.
And
believe me, as we look at
this now, as you go into the exercise, then as you go back into your, into your workplace and in the cases of organizations, in the case of even you as individuals and figuring out your own sense of life mission. Is it clear to you dude, and the thing is these things change and what your mission might be at the moment. For example, Fernandez is to become an accomplished PhD student. So but that you may have goals beyond At this stage, and then as you go through life, those things change. So the point is not necessarily to etch these in stone, but nevertheless, to be clear about them about where you are now. Because that gives you your footing for taking your next step.
So,
of course, part of it is your passion, what, what is somehow somehow the piece that is that is you that seems to be there, no matter what you do, and what ignites you, what inspires you, what just is something that you deeply love to do that, you know, is some somehow who you are. That’s one aspect. And then in a minute, what I’m, what I’m going to get you to do is to write down a bunch of these little things in each of these areas and see what if you can come up with some kind of a sweet spot. And it’s an integrative process, and part of it is brainstorming with yourself. And then part of it is the thinking about it later on. Then there is another thing that tends to be a little bit different than what you’re passionate about, then you also look at what can you be best at. And sometimes organizations have a certain passion and mission. But then also need to look at what you’ve done and done well, in your history. What, what are you actually really good at sometimes, sometimes we need a little bit of outside perspective to help us see that as individuals. Or sometimes it needs a little bit of reflection and discussion amongst a group of people in your organization to figure out what can you be best at what do you really stand out at doing? Now, there are a lot of things in your life that you’re good at. So for this purpose, this is not to demean or to belittle or to diminish your value at all, any of the things that you can be best at. But for the purpose of creating a really laser focused clarity, for action, what we do want to look at find eventually, is this sweet spot is this intersection of all of these areas, but you have to begin just beginning and this is where we’ll begin in the exercise by just listing What can you be a step, the mix of things, we’ll get to the integrative process after that. Then in terms of this area for organization, what fuels your resource engine, okay, so resource resource engine, why I say resources rather than money or, or energy or anyway, it’s just, we use different you know, resources for our fuel. In organizations, you do need money, you do need people and, and one of the things that we do as social beings, if you remember the lizard limbic and logic, you’ve got the survival stuff, which is the raw energy, you’ve got your limbic stuff, which is a social social stuff, and then you’ve got your,
your more
logical stuff, which is my note, I don’t know whether I’m drawing the right parallels here, video that you’ve got, you’ve got your different, you’ve got your different resources that are available to you and the different according to what what, which X Factor you’re focusing on, whether it’s your personal expector. And so you’re the fuel what fuels you could be, you do have actual resources, like you may have a guitar, if you’re if you’re an artist, and you have access to that resource, you might have access to a studio, you might have act, you know, that that other people do not have. If you’re going to if you’re planning if you’re if your goal and your passion is to become a performing artist, or maybe you don’t have access to a studio, so therefore, maybe then you’ll end up doing for now at this stage, you might end up doing some teaching of students. I don’t know but I’m just saying that you you do have multiple resources in your life. And part of it is doing, doing an inventory of your resources and thinking about what you do have some many times we overlook many of the resources that we do have, we don’t we don’t see them as resources and sometimes that people sometimes The objects, sometimes they’re their organizations or reservoirs of people, I don’t know. But just the point here is to say resources so that you don’t limit it to just thinking you need money or just thinking you need things or just thinking that you need a specific access to a particular person. And then the other piece that that is not as quickly available, but it is important as you and this is where the whole integrated pieces of these three that I it comes in that as your as you and the resources here, and part of the ways you tap those resources and understand those resources down here. And you find out the needs of people the real needs, or the the real potential, the overlap of the people that you’re engaging with all the groups that you are wanting to involve your stakeholders, and finding the sweet spot in there through even that process of understanding what their needs, wants and desires.
And so
this is new.
So this is what, what we what we have here in this sweet spot, and we’ll we’ll get to that. No. Did I move things? Yes. So what I want you to do now is I’m going to give you, what would it be? I just want you to do the brainstorming for a few minutes. And I’ll leave this up on the screen. Just so that you can remind yourself what you’re doing. But what I want you to do is for like, two minutes, and I will I will time you just because it’s really important to have you just, you know, get stuff out there. What I want you to do is spend I’m going to time you two minutes to maybe I’ll give you three minutes. What are you most passionate about to think and explore and write those down? Then another three minutes? What can you be best at another three minutes. And so again, just list Don’t Don’t worry at all about right wrong. Good, bad, dude. Just brainstorm. Just get these out. Get yourself out a piece of paper and a pen and just write a whole lot of stuff. And when you get to you think you’ve written if you’ve got more time in the three minutes until I tell you to move. Just think Is there anything else dig a little deeper and that can add to you. So I am going to why don’t you just get going and I will get the the timer going here and I will let you know when it’s time to move over to the next little
The next section. So there you go.
Let me see if I can find you
Oh
45 seconds.
Okay. Now I’d like you to make a list of all of the things that you can do. And some of the things that write down Don’t limit what you are really good at. I’m sure there are a number of things.
Think of things that people have said to you got
really good at,
but you don’t necessarily think.
Think about things that you were good at a few years ago or
maybe even something you’ve forgotten you’re good at.
Got about another 30 seconds on this one.
Getting ready to change over to
your resources.
Think about all the different kinds of resources that you have access to people.
Things,
locations, groups.
Sense reaching behind some of those social networks who behind some of those Names of Who are the people or the groups behind them and or school connections are the areas of your university or connections that you might have
passport
coming to the end of the time of your resources.
So now starting to turn your mind to
the real needs, not just as best you can for now because ideally you would you would go out and test some of these needs. But start with what you understand is perceived needs in your sphere of influence, depending on and that’s if you’re talking about yourself as an individual if you’re talking about your your workspace. those around you that your sphere of influence that you have through your stakeholders and family, friends or organizations. Next Level up in your if you’re operating at the organizational level, go the next level up to political levels or community levels or Association levels.
What are their needs?
This list may have nothing to do with you. But what you see that they need.
Got one minute left.
We’ll bring it to a close
Okay, so did you fill up a page? Or was it easy to write? What what was? What was that, like?
Any feedback on the experience of just writing that stuff?
Some, some are easier than others for me. Like,
for the situation that I’m right now, like in between jobs and but like working on projects that are still projects, so some were easier than others, but they were all like, there was I had enough information to
Yeah, about everything. Cool.
Yeah, it was just nice to get up onto a page, I feel like, there’s so much in our head sometimes, that it’s nice to just like,
a brain dump.
brain dump is good.
Because it’s interesting that that process of getting it out, things can stay fuzzy in the head, but by the time you distill it into, you know, even just go through the physical motion of writing, it solidifies things, it’s, it’s the next step in the process of, it’s a creative process. I mean, it’s just that simple. And our life is a creative we are creating our life leading our life is a creative process constantly. And leaving everything just up in the kind of the Nether gloom the fuzz is sometimes we kid ourselves that we’ve got it figured out when we don’t always so it really does help to do that. Any other quick comments, and then we’ll move on to the sort of fun part, I think there’s going to be two parts to this. The next part is where I want you to as best as you can, is look at all of the things now that you you become an observer of your own different areas of life, now you get to look at that page and you get to see okay, now as an observer in my own life, I can see maybe this piece I’m I’m really good at that, that’s something that actually meshes with what I understand that that the stakeholders need and it’s it’s something that I’ve got resources for and it is aligned with my passion. So I want you to know, I’m just going to give you another three minutes and if we’ll see if that’s long enough for you to go through this process of extracting that and seeing if you can see anything new come out at out from this part of the process. So I will just simply start up my handy dandy little timer here and and let you get to work again just seeing what is that sweet spot if you can find that sweet spot. I know that when when I do this, it’s not it doesn’t just all happen and sometimes some things will pop out but going through this process. You know, maybe later on tonight or tomorrow morning you might wake up and you go ah but it’s important to do this process and then to see what you can integrate even now. So here we go. Three minutes
trying to play something different.
got about half a minute left.
Was that enough time for you
to get something?
So
does anybody want to share what they came up with?
Let me rephrase that. Would anybody share what they came up with? Sure.
Um,
for me, I.
So I’m just gonna,
like, connections, the whole narrative thing, right? Yeah. Um, so in terms of passions and mission, I feel a very strong passion and mission for I’m doing the work to realize my own value, and my unique passions and connecting the two and kind of inspiring others to find that for themselves. Yep, that’s what I am very passionate about. And I’m usually through the means of kind of testimonial and educational mechanisms. I like to talk to people about what I know. And that is connected to what I’m good at, which is, I think I am good at speaking eloquently relatively well. And I’m really good at relating to a diverse group of people, which is fueled by my own experiences, diverse experience, and my own journey of growth that I can speak to.
And
because I’ve had a very diverse
array of experiences, I have a lot of connections and contacts all over the world. And a lot of friendships that have young professionals specifically, and that meets the needs of my organization wapi because one of the things that debusschere epi really does need is that new, young, dynamic, young professional network to really be able to facilitate, just facilitate connection and just amplify its impact. And its mission of really igniting the sense of value amongst women and yeah, just in our mission there so that’s how it all connects.
Yeah. Was it interesting to find find all of those connections was uh, I mean, you probably kind of knew but is it was it good to You know, even that little bit of clarity was helpful.
Yeah, I think it was different from last time were last time I was coming from more of like, as a representative of women’s Federation first. And this time just coming from a personal aspect kind of made it flow better. Yeah. Like last time, I was very confused as to
what? Yeah, when you when you first encounter something you don’t know where to start? And there’s so many layers, you could start at, you could start at the individual level or, but again, I think as you You see, the alignment is alignment of all all of the aspects is what empowers in the, in the end, what creates the real potency of anything. Yeah. And so doing that is wonderful. Thank you.
Daniella. Yeah.
So, I struggle a little, but
I’m very passion, I studied entertainment, Business Management. And I’m very passionate about it as a business. And as an audience member that to go to the theater or a concert or anything live entertainment related. And that’s something that like, brings me this kind of feeling and joy that nothing else. And also, while working on that industry, I realized it has a huge potential to have a greater impact in the world other than just entertaining. Mm hmm. So like, passions, mission is to merge these two things, like to still enjoy the entertainment part of it, but have a bigger impact at the same time. Right, I realized through like working with very different groups of people on very different projects, that I’m very good at adapting to what the group needs specifically, because in some groups, I could be a creative one and another group I could be, there could be someone that’s way more creative than me. So I would be the one to ground the ideas. I’m very, I really am very, very good at that. And also finding like a common ground. Like, I know, I’m a very good mediator.
And like,
somehow, I think that relates with mediating also, or finding a common ground with entertainment in, like social impact. Um, my research has right now are mostly my friends that are in different aspects of the entertainment industry that are not very familiar with. And like my own experience, and my own contacts, also, because those are the people that like the project that I’m working on, they’re going to be the first ones I presented to. And speaking in the like, about my stakeholders,
most of them
are in their work, entertainment, and have been having a very rough time, during COVID. But like their main needs right now are to survive and innovate. And at the same time to connect with their own stakeholders. So where I think I can meet their needs, is in helping them innovate, give them a way to do that. Cool. So that’s so if I had to like name my X Factor, it would be like, add on to, like, I’m not trying to compete. I’m not trying to change what you do. I’m trying to add to what I do. Cool.
Thank you. Yeah, helping people innovate and adapt in in challenging times is critical, because that’s, again, that’s that’s the whole change leadership thing is seeing the opportunities at a very practical way, understanding what the real needs are not what just the thought needs are, and then facilitating that that adaptation process. Very good.
You find Yeah, I’m not sure. Did you have a chance to do this exercise? I wasn’t sure whether you were able to.
Yeah, I think I did a little bit. I love that was exactly what was needed. Well, I looked at,
you know, what am I deeply passionate about?
miska finding that I’m deeply passionate about human capital, develop. And which ties into our mission is to, you know, give people skills and have them build confidence and opportunities, platforms to express themselves, and also change the world, whatever they want to do. But given them what it takes for them to do it, you’ve been meaning it for themselves, you know, and not just doing things for them, I came to realize that the biggest advocate is possible advocates for himself, because he knows exactly where the shoe pinches. But if you give him the tools, he will be able to speak up for himself. If you don’t give him the tools that he allow people to those walk all over him or her. And at that point in time, since they can’t express themselves, you can only speak for them based on your limited knowledge of them know the exercise we did earlier. Yeah. Now would you show even the people clauses to us only know, between 15 to 20%. I know that’s what we know about them. And not much, regardless of how much time they spent. So if I’m going to advocate for someone, and all I knew about them is just 15%. What was going through their mind, I don’t think I’m doing a very effective job in doing that. So giving them the tools, to be able to articulate them for themselves will be something that I’ve come to realize I’m very passionate about. And that’s been an organizational mission. And I’ll say it best now, mission. wolf was my resource engine is basically respect for them for their dignity, and love and compassion. sympathies, has no way I don’t have sympathy for them, because I can’t articulate their emotions, I can only respect and give them the tools, you know, in a dignified manner where they believe that they matter, they are seen. Um, the other question was, what I think it has to do with the resources that my stakeholders need. their needs, basically, which also will also translate to my own need. Their need that I’ve come to realize is looking through the mission is they want to be seen, they want to be heard, also want people to know that they exist, first of all US people, and respected the regarded, most times the mistake many of us make, especially those of us that brand ourselves charitable organizations is we go in with the mindset that this man and women or children are charity cases, we’re here to come sweep them out from that terrible and miserable world. And we’re doing them out of sympathy, but they’re not turning to cases. They know they are people and they want to be heard, they want to stand on their own platform. They need development they need the tools to become who and what they want to become they need empowerment and also try forming strategic alliance. And that comes to so what do I need, what I need is also to be able to have the temperament the tools to meet those needs. Which means I need to have the Human Resources component to fit on the stand and who I am forced, because I cannot give somebody what I don’t have. That means I have to make sure that everybody within my organization, myself included, get the skillset, those tools to be able to offer it to them as well and also carry ourselves in a dignified manner. Charged self responsible and reasonable to them. You know, I have to make sure I have that and need to show myself responsible and reasonable.
So that’s pretty much it.
Thank you and you’re
I might have missed this. You said about the things that you can do best what
is it that you can do? What is it I can do best basically is not wrote it that is coming up with new ways, new and improved ways to address complex issues. That’s one of the things have fun. You’re an innovator
and a
leader and innovator in that way. Yeah.
Wonderful.
Well, that’s
James, I don’t know whether you’re here.
And maybe, maybe if he had, if he did the exercise, perhaps he can upload that to the Facebook page later on. Maybe, I’m not sure what that he’s here, but he seems to be here, which is really good. So I’m
in the process of
clarifying the X Factor This is, and this is just one little, in a way, it’s just one little exercise. I’m just trying to find my other notes around here. What I would like you to do now is to distill that down
to
a simple sentence that says something like, I help whoever your your target group is that you are primarily focusing on so for Daniella, it might be entertainers or you could narrow that down even further, but you help these people and then
do
just as a way to, you know, to distill it down and have yourself to analyze and think what, what is it that you do? Oh, I didn’t ask you Fernanda? Did I?
Let him Let me hear from you, Fernando. Okay.
Well, I’m about what am I deeply passionate about? I think, first of all, would be helping others and working with other people. At the SEC, at the same time, for me, it’s feeling productive, and making things that make me feel that I’m growing, I’m learning, I like to constantly be learning new stuff. And something that I have been learning from the last years is how to be myself without judging and taking care of me. And even though I’m, maybe I may want to take responsibility from for a lot of things, I need to take into account what how am I dealing with myself first, on learning how, like, Who am I in order to help others? Then what can I be? What can I be best at, I may say,
I’m really good at planning and organizing stuff.
But at the same time, I like to be creative, and to do have, like a really fresh perspective and to try to, to, to find new ways of doing things. Always like thinking on others and taking into account each of those people that are working with us. And, and the other thing is, I like to make things happen. And I always like I’m really on executing things and achieving things like goals and objectives we have, even though it may be challenging,
so you’re an instigator.
I’m about my resources, I think first of all will be myself my experience. And then people that around me like my friends, my parents, my colleagues, like colleagues, our people I have I have worked before with that I’ve been they are like people I have learned from and that I will like to always take into account when I’m thinking on another on another project or thing I want to I want to work in. I’m also like my partner, herbal My boyfriend is like the really supportive for me and supporting me and them that it gives like role models for me.
And
I’m also looking around books and journals like I really like to go to learn from specialists and donders down like the maybe sometimes a theory about everything and then to be able to execute correctly. I may be too rational sometimes. So I thought why it might be like one of my references. And, of course, I think like nowadays, social networks are really important. And you have a sense, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn. And that’s the channel where we can get to know other people and to get more information from others. And sometimes, like, remember who you hang around, and who can help you, right. So I think that’s also a huge and great resource. When I’m thinking about my stakeholders, I think that was the really tough part for me, because right now, I’m not working on up on a specific project. So I think that during this quarantine, and with COVID, on everything, what I have been trying to, well, what I have been realizing is that people or my community is looking for a safe space where they can be there themselves. Right, it’s a space with more tolerant people, because right now, I think we have been living with a lot of discrimination. And here, for example, things related on how we have been treating women women, it has been really tough for me, and it also makes me feel identify with the stories that I hear all the while listen. So I think those people that they want to be heard, they also want to be respected. And they want to feel that, like they can, they have the ability to do something and that they earn, like less than others. And I think that’s really important because they need to be really inspired and empowered to do things and have the resources to do it. And that’s, that may be like, the way I want to go through, like trying to provide them with quality education or a safe spaces where they can talk where they can express themselves where they can feel comfortable to, to, to really find what’s their, their mission, and to empower them to do it. And so I think those might be my and well, the sweet spot that I found that I find is I really like to empower or provide the people with resources such as, for example, quality education, to make them feel use, useful, and to make them feel that they really can do it by planning and making things happen. But without losing myself.
So you already started actually, Fernanda to to do that. That next question that I had for you is to put into one sentence, you said you like to empower people and provide them with the resources such as getting the education and finding ways that they can be useful I didn’t quite catch everything that you said. But yeah, so and that’s what I what I would like each of you to do is to distill it down now to a very simple sentence you know, I like to you know, I I like to help people right focus on a specific specific group of people. I like to help so and so that group to do that data. So again, this just gives you another way of honing in on what it is that you’re doing on your innocence on your first round of your X factor. So here we go with the next three minutes was the music level okay for you guys. was a pleasant to have it in the background.
Yeah, okay.
Daniel is texting 100 words a minute.
Okay so our three minutes are up.
So we’re going a little bit into our next period of time, but I will still give you your full half an hour break, we’ll just take a little slice out of this afternoon. But I’d like to hear if if you’ve really got it down to like one sentence, it shouldn’t take as long to go around the room. Was that easy to distill it down to one sentence or not? You can say number one, yes. easy or hard? Number two, what you’ve come up with for now.
So I’m going to just, let’s, let’s go. If you’re ready, grace will just go around the room the same way we did. The last time.
I still don’t have super clarity.
That’s okay. That’s okay. This is Yeah.
But I like to help
friends and colleagues to dig deeper into the heart of their own passions
in order to realize
in order to connect it to a greater purpose, or to a common purpose.
I don’t know. Yeah. Anyway, as you can see that this is this is not
this is a it’s, it’s a kind of work. It’s a creative process for doing this. And, and as you wrestle with coming up with the sentences, you realize, I thought I knew what I was. But actually, yeah, I gotta I got to figure this out a little bit more. So this is this is excellent. This is not, this is not a problem. This is this is this process. I mean, even when anybody writes a book or comes up with a masterpiece, you do your first draft or you get the idea, you put your first draft down, then you work on it. And then you you know, what was that Hemingway would would get up every morning, right? I don’t know, 25 pages or something like that and distill it down to one or two. That was his process every day. Then the next day, he would do the same thing he’d write, and then he cut it down from like 25 pages down to it. And so that’s that’s how he worked on that was his process for coming up with, with stories that read simply and easily, you know, quite powerful in there. away, but the process of coming up with something that is really good. And that really does, it takes a lot of work, self reflection, thought, exploration, and then the whole process of distilling down. So to come up with something that is, you know, for your, for your life for your organization, and in a way, it’s good to do these for yourself. And then of course, you do tend to do this kind of work in a group with your organization. But at some level, you’ll have had to think well, what thing first, what is it that I think the organization is, then you get into that engagement process with others, and then that creates an a whole nother dynamic, but even the process itself has value because life is a process, it is a journey? And, and so it’s like just coming up with the answer, as if, if there was an answer for life. I suspect it would be done, you know, and we’d all be switched off. Who knows? I don’t know. But it’s, it’s a process. So the wrestling with it is part of what is good. And so I really appreciate that that’s what you are doing grace, because it, it’s drawing out of you getting you to go back in and really think again, is this what I really want to do? And then I know so many times I’ve come up, yes, this is what, and then I wake up the next day, and I go
That was pretty good yesterday, but
about today. So so it really is a process. I mean, even because to some extent, this is the kind of processes that’s behind branding and and you know, big branding concepts. And actually, this is just one little piece of a whole, what in order for you to be able to brand yourself into become very effective at what you do. And so that you can get out there and be known, which is a whole nother step, another series of steps. There’s about eight steps there. But that’s why they’re a whole industries associated with this people. Because it’s it they facilitate this exploratory thinking rethinking reassessment, reengagement understanding of this is kind of like, all that hard work, or to figure out where you are, who you are, where you are, what your strengths off what your resources are, and therefore what you can bring into the world. And even once you kind of got that kind of clarity, then the next level of work is constantly making that relevant to society as it adapts and changes.
Because,
you know, Blockbuster Video was really relevant in what was it 90s, I guess. And all of a sudden, it’s disappeared. A it didn’t adapt. I mean, it had its name blockbuster. Okay, it was Blockbuster Video, but it could have adapted to something else who knows what I don’t know what it could have pivoted and whatever else, but it didn’t disappear. And, you know, whatever. But the point there is that even once you get clarity about what it is that you do, you have to ensure that you remain relevant. And that’s an on the next level of ongoing work. So, for example, women’s Federation’s relevance back in the 80s, and 90s need to be updated to where we are today. And the core of it, I’m sure is highly relevant, but the way it’s presented and how it’s articulated, and how it is shown to be relevant. That’s a whole piece of work. And it does take investment time and effort.
Daniela
and I came up with
I want to help people in the entertainment industry have a positive and long term impact in the world. I was I couldn’t decide, because like, the ultimate goal is to reach the audience, not the entertainment industry itself. So I was like, debating in my head, like, which, like, where to address this sentence to? Yeah, but I opted for what’s closer to me like more accessible and more.
So this is the fantastic beginning point. And then what you do is you go back out, you utilize your stakeholder thing and then you speak with them to find out what What is it that they’re really wanting to do, and to deepen that, you know, hone in on that, and get that feedback in their words from them. Because they’ll have, if you if you want to, for example, and this is how you hone this process in and I use the word hone, it’s a little bit like sharpening a knife, you don’t sharpen a knife, no, just with one stroke on the stone, or through the thing, it’s usually a few. And you you find out what it is, and then you do the broad brush strokes, and then you get finer and finer and finer, and the angles need to get more precise. But absolutely, you begin with with developing this kind of clarity, then go back into doing that kind of research with those people. So that then you hope you then refine your whole process with their at now, and COVID, may have, you’ve already paid attention to the fact that COVID is making a difference in the life. But even their perspective might be a little bit different than yours based on COVID. So to be able to speak really well to them and to address them, then then that would be the next step in this. But that’s what this is doing for you, is helping you basically, yes, clarify your X Factor, but then it’s also part of the way then you help make that connection with them. So that you, as a, as an entrepreneur, can decide how you’re going to go forward? How are you going to help them do this? Are you going to do this as an advisor, as a friend, as a, as a consultant, as you might decide to start your own business? I don’t know. But here, this is where you’re beginning to put to work in a very practical way. And you grounded through through these discussions with your
that group of people.
And if they watch it, they’re gonna say, hey, Daniela, you know, and that’s the goal here is that you become the go to person in your sector. You become the people they want to talk to, because you’re speaking their language, you’re speaking to their needs. And that’s true women’s Federation has to find its way to articulate what it’s doing so that people want women’s federate what, what what women’s Federation has, otherwise, you’re constantly trying to convince people that they need you. And how well does that usually work? You know, it can work but it’s way not optimal, it’s way not the way it could be. So developing your clarity around what your passion is, what you’re good at what resources you have, and that you can actually really, really, really provide those services, that sweet spot to what they need. That is what makes you the go to person in your field of expertise, or your services, or your products, whatever, whatever it might be. And it’s not just a matter of wanting to be wanting and wanting to be able to, you know, make a make a, you know, a worthwhile business or organization. But the point is, if you really do have the things that help them fulfill their needs. That’s powerful. That’s, that’s why we’re here, people have needs that are real. And they often need a hand to hold a person to to call upon, you know, to to get that kind of benefit from so that they can go forward and live their life better and help make the world a better place in their multiple of ways that that they do this. So this is how when you fulfill when you are able to fulfill their needs.
It’s kind of Well, of course, that’s that’s the fulfillment of your passion, what you’re good at the resources that you have, and that you can actually help people and that they, they want you to help them. This is this is the the perfect, the perfect solution that this is not just selling and marketing and making other people do something that they don’t really want to do. But when you have that human core right at the center, and there is dignity, there is respect, there is genuine care and concern when that’s at the heart of it, and then you build this structure that all lines up
for your organization.
Just make sense.
In a way, it’s kind of like, Well, yeah, so what’s new, but the reality is, it’s it is, sadly, it is actually new. And if you
have to write don’t write and write and rewrite,
yes, yes, yes, gotcha.
I want to establish a resource or platform for people to find their confidence and print up from that pool.
And, and the target group that you’re really thinking focusing on
a protected group without losing focus another huge, and women,
youth and women can you narrow that down, or is that every youth and every woman,
um, especially women who have gone through abuse, and some part of the word Nigeria, you know, mostly women are not inclined to run for political positions, because of the stigma that comes with it and the name calling the name shaming. And some don’t know how to wait to stat, because it lacked confidence. So we want to zero on something community to give them that confidence. Give them the tools to become confident so that they will be able to decide if they want to pursue that career, they have the option to do so.
Right. So then right there. So then you’re speaking to those women who,
who.
And I and I’m not sure how to best
say this in the context in the current Nigerian context, but they would be women who have experienced challenges and difficulties and want still want to rise and take and aspire to more publicly advocating for women or something like that. So and you’ll find the better words that that was a lousy help that I just did, but But anyway, my point there is for you to narrow in on it. So it’s not just women, you are looking at women who have experienced trauma, and still really want to make, you know, help make the differences for them. And those that follow in this society. Is that I
somehow think before the end of tomorrow, we’ll be able to Yeah.
Good. Anyway, if there is no simple, no simple way to do this, but it’s a really it’s a it’s a challenging and yet really important activity to keep working on. Thank you funny. Yeah, and Fernanda?
So I came up with another sentence. And I think I like it’s, I like to empower my community by providing them with useful resources to make them Sorry,
I have the,
I want to, I want to rephrase it.
I like to empower people in my community by providing them with reserve resources, that allow them to feel capable of achieving their goals, and to be positively viewed by the community.
So you’re even just between before and now you’re, you’re looking at things from a slightly different perspective. And so part of the what I would like you to all of you to do is to work on this a little bit more Tonight at the end of at the end of this, just while kind of the process is fresh in your mind, because you know, once we get past these couple of days, then life will happen. But I want you to solidify this, you know, and, and it’s it’s challenging. But and we’ll come back to this and we’ll need to come back to it numbers of times in our life. But I really like you to each. And maybe we can start even tomorrow morning without latest version of about a little elevator pitch about who it is and what we do our kind of our expect to how how we are unique in the world and how we are uniquely going out and doing our work and distilling that down. So I want to thank you for all doing that. Now we have taken extra time. So I’m still going to give you your half an hour. So we will just whenever we can, it’ll probably be more like 25 because I 1125 Well, maybe we’ll just take it 30. Anyway, I’ll tell you in a second exactly when we’ll come back. But after after lunch, we’re going to do a couple of things. Well, one main thing is I do have an invitation for you that I want to go over just so we’ve got that out there in after that session, there’ll be a little bit of time left after we have a break. And and then we end up with probably any, you know, questions and answers off the bat and then we’ll break for the day. Then tomorrow we’re going to be focusing in on today we’re kind of looking at the The X Factor, looking at what you know how starting to put together your unique presentation of who you are and how you’re operating and who you want to work with in the world. And then tomorrow, what we’re going to be working on is really the, the the tag system or the the action plan for aligning, because it’s good to have the X Factor that piece in there, which then helps you clarify if you know your mission, that’s kind of like your destination, it’s like you’re, you’re on that boat, you’ve got the pin in the map, you know where you’re going to. But at an organizational level, you’ve still got to come into the work work each day, you still got to do you know, make your phone calls, you’ve still got to make your connections with people, you’ve got to write your emails, you’ve got to, you know, have your staff meetings, whatever it might be at those functional levels of your organization. But what we go over tomorrow as the alignment system for what the tag I call a tag system, because it’s a transparent, which is often not in most organizations, they don’t have such transparent goals. And sometimes it’s because they’re not clear on their goals. But also sometimes it’s because you know, like a corporate level or the the the main management level has goals for the for the larger organization, then down you you have different goals, of course, subsets of that, but then not always align that siloing process often disjoint that alignment. And so this is where we come back into is a funny and grace No, we look at what I the poor process of okrs. I’ll explain a little bit more about peel, and what that really means tomorrow. But the main point is that it’s how to put into place a very practical action plan for aligning your X Factor all of your stakeholders and you know getting that alignment taking place, a very practical system for doing that. And that way then that dynamic. The what we went over earlier that looking from the top you have the human element in the middle and you’ve got the X Factor the resources in the end of the tag system. So you’ve got all of those systems there. But that that helps you to then really
help all of these pieces work together. Once you’ve got those three elements, the AIX system, your goal, your goals, adoption system in place, and you’ve got your ways to work with and to build your resources. And we’ve mostly focused on the stakeholders. There’s a whole other area of and find us spoken to that at different times refer to that as your social capital, which is more organized To organization as well as your financial capital, then the other areas of resources that need to be built, once you’ve got the, the, this core piece in the middle, but so then you, I think you’ll begin to see how all of this fits together in a very, in a way, a very simple aligned package around which you can then build. And then that makes with this core, it’s kind of like having a, you know, your skeleton. Once you’ve got a skeleton in place, then you know, you put the flesh and you exercise the muscles, and then you go out and run around the world and do all kinds of stuff. But you know, you take the core out of you, you know, you’ve got, we’ve got water, a bag of mostly water that that just goes flop on the ground. So we once we’ve got this core in place, then then you can have the exquisite, amazing human humanity running around and doing really neat stuff in the world. I don’t know whether that makes sense. dances or whatever, you know, however it is. So it’s 1128. So we’ll see you back at my noon. You’re three on the east coast. And Daniella and Fernandez You’re too
so have an early lunch and I’ll see you then.
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Anyway, so it’s not there. I can’t replay that for you my Serbs is still salty. Okay. Oh, that was me. Yeah, that was from the Tesla thing? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. They are. Anyway, so, um, do you have any credit, you know, I just wanted to start, we were pretty much close to the end of the day, there’s not much time to do something left, but anything else, but questions either from what I just presented, or from anything from earlier today, just so that we wrap up today. And then tomorrow, we’ll definitely get into, we’ll get into the alignment, the systems and process and some of the the initial setup pieces for alignment tomorrow.
One of the things that I forgot, I did also forget to mention is that whenever I say that the target date for the beginning of the the sponsorship is and as I said, I’m still working on some of these things. Whatever. If any of you sign up and if any of you buddy put your money down or whatever there is from the day that the mentorship starts,
you will have a 30 day money back guarantee. So if you if we get started, because you know, because if I decide not to stop for 30 days, and I say oops, and then you then you start the program. And then you say, Yeah, but I don’t think this is any good. I want my money back, please. But if I I’m just making the point that whenever it stops from, you’ll have the 30 days for full money back guarantee. No questions asked. So there’s so there’s that. I don’t just take your money and run. Just letting you know. Oh, I forgot to put my show my face up. Oh, you must have liked my other face. Ah, okay. So um, so there is so there is that pace. And I’m, I’m kind of I’m torn between getting something started immediately. And then if if I do, if I do start something immediately, what I might do is whenever the next time round, I bring people in that your year would actually begin at that point. The years mentorship and the whatever, however long it takes to get to that next stage for me, that would be just additional time that that we would work together. And we’d always have, we work with the setting up your your roadmap, anyway. And then we typically start with the every two weeks coaching session, and we get that would go anyway. And then we’d start the year when there’s perhaps a couple more people involved, which might be probably a couple more months to three more months. So, so that I think that’s about all I think they’re the only things that I forgot to say about that. But any other questions from
any of what I just went over?
or any of the, the morning stuff that we that we did any reflections on any of that? Whatever, this is your time.
If you’d like to.
I’ll give you a moment to decide if anybody’s got any questions. And then I have one more thing that I might do.
For all of you.
Karen, I wanted to ask you about being a source of accountability. Yeah. Can we like explain a little bit more? What does that mean, to be someone’s source of accountability?
Yeah, and that’s more just a way of saying,
you know, if somebody said, I’ll put it into simple terms, somebody says, okay, so I want to stop smoking. And by I don’t smoke, but you know, I might say, I want to stop smoking.
And then
and then they send them and you can also how you’re doing this and you can get more information from them. So you can you can ask them a question. So are you stepping down, you’re going to go cold turkey, whatever.
Then they explain to you what they’re planning on doing.
You and you could say well
Do you want me to
help you out with that? Do you want me to, you know, kind of watch what you’re doing? Do you want me to be there for you and to, you kind of in advance, almost have to make the agreement of what kind of accountability you’re going to provide. Which is why it’s important in, you know, in any kind of a situation that you make some level of agreement up front. So that then, you know, if something happens down the road a little bit, and they say, well, I’ve changed my mind, I, you know, it got a little bit hard nitride safety. But yeah, you told me that you are really serious about it. And this time, you will go into, absolutely. And you, in fact, asked me to kick you in the butt, if you know, so then you can come back to them. And then you can say, you know, I’m just saying, and then and then they, they begin to realize, then they’ve got to make decisions about, they asked you, they’ve got to think about whether or not they’re what they’re the value of their own word. If that’s important to them, or not just the fact that you’re there, and you’re prepared to tell them, this is what you said to me, I am doing what I said that I would do, what are you going to do?
Okay, got it. You know, I wasn’t clear if it was like a spoken deal kind of thing. Or if it was just, like, implicit.
Yeah, in, in the situation in, in, in, in mentorship. A there, you know, there’s overall, there’s usually in the beginning, there’s, there’s certain, like contractual agreements, this is what you’ve been getting, this is what you can expect this, you know, all of those kinds of things. So you’ve got to hold me accountable for what I say I’m going to provide you. And then part of what I do throughout that process, I can ask you to do certain things, or recommend that you do certain things, I can send you homework, or I can say, this is this is a really important thing for you to do. When are you going to do it? Can you schedule it? Can we set that up? How can I help you get that done? But then and then it’s up to you? And then I come back again later on and say so how did that go? Well, that didn’t happen. Okay, So when’s it going to happen next, you know, so, but having somebody who, who knows the challenges quite well, for many different in many different dimensions, being there to be that backstop and support, so you just don’t back out so easily. In the end, you know, you can’t make anybody do anything, I can’t make you I can’t guarantee anything for you. So in that sense, the levels of accountability that we have I can I can, I can say that, yes, I will be watching you, I will get feedback from you, I will give you recommendations for where to go. But I’m, I can’t make a guarantee for your outcomes Exactly. But I can, what I can do, what I can be responsible for, is being there to guide you through the process. And to be there and, and to tell you things that that I think are important that you might not think you’re important. And then it’s up to you to decide whether still whether to do them or not. But anyway, that kind of thing. But a lot of the time, you know, those that that hardest side, and then a lot of the time it’s just simply having people to work with that keeps you moving along. You eat meat every two weeks, then and and you’ve got something to that you’ve said you’d get done in two weeks, the two weeks come to check in. No, it’s just it’s setting up systems of accountability. If nothing else, no.
Not it.
Yeah. So what, then if there are no more questions at this stage, then what I was thinking that I might just use this last 20 minutes for 15 minutes for is for you guys to say, in a sense to talk amongst yourselves. What I would suggest is that you take
this
four of you.
I’m just 20 minutes for.
Okay, this might be a little bit hard, but
based on you’ve heard a little bit from one another little little bits
What if you were to think of one thing that you think you have to offer any of the others, just, you know, just as peer to peer insight, advice, support, understanding off on one thing that you would like to, to have that you might not have even heard from the others, maybe they won’t have it, maybe they will. I mean, sometimes, when you when you identify something that you have, that others could utilize, that you don’t have that, you know, that you would like to benefit from, and it could be a connection. It could be, you know, the the use of some kind of, you know, anybody have had experience with some kind of software. I mean, it could be anything, but just the whole experience of practicing
to,
in a sense to say what you’ve got, and to put yourself out there as a potential partner with others, and on the other side, to learn to say what you would like to learn from gain or benefit from from others. Because, you know, in the world, we actually need to know, you know, especially when we’re in networking types of situations, it can take it, this is a skill also, it can take time to figure out how to present yourself as a resource to others, so that they want to utilize you as a resource in a way that you want them to not just use you up and spit you out, but how you know precisely what your organization is for how they can utilize you. And on the other hand, how to find other resources or connections or contacts. So, Grace, you said that you’d like to speak, you feel confident speaking. So you might be you might want to ask the others for example, do any of you have podcasts or programs or places where you need speakers of people who have experience in the UN and in other international environments where you could speak and give your experience? You know, what do I know? What do I know you what you want to do? But that’s it. Daniella, you might say, Well, you know, you you’ve got these skills and resources. Does anybody else have an event coming up that I could help bring in some? Some of my entertainers? Yeah, I don’t know what you want to admit, but connected to what you’re planning, you know, what your core mission and plan is what you would like to do? What is something that would help you do that, that you don’t have, that maybe even somebody in this room, I don’t know, it’s a very small room. But you know, and this kind of this kind of an exchange of networking exchange is what can happen on a much larger scale. But you do have to get your, your little pitch ready. And I know, I’m not giving you much time, I’m not giving you a whole lot of guidance. But we’re just, you know, we’ve got 15 minutes left. And so I’m just wanting to scrunch this up, and maybe we can do something more tomorrow. But you know, come the situation, when you think of it, you know, unless you ask other people do you know, anybody who’s who’s looking for a speaker? Do you know anybody who’s looking for an artist who is really driven by you know, their, their particular agenda is on domestic violence? Just say, just because it comes to the top of my head really quickly? You know? Or who somebody who could? Who could entertain in that environment? Do you know, any, but actually grace, Daniela, do you know, anybody in that environment who could come in and, and do something at the summit? You know, I don’t know. Have you thought about it, maybe nobody else do. And so you didn’t think about it? Anyway, the point is, in, in networking environments, we have to get comfortable with explaining what resources we have that others can make use of, which is a little bit different than saying, Hey, you know, I’m the best in the world at such and such, but I have these resources and and, you know, I would love people to access them. But also I need help with such and such. Is there anybody? Do you? Do you happen to know somebody? Do you? Or do you happen to know somebody who can help me with such and such.
Now, usually, you have to have a plan.
For taking some kind of action, you have to have your X factor in place, you have to know where you’re headed. You have to know what you want. You have to have thought about, you know, what kinds of resources you really looking for are important to you. But, so, all of these things will help you do your work more effectively and net Work and expand and make relationships and build your social capital and build your impact. But it’s important to be able to us to offer and to ask, because that’s what in the end, you’re wanting to call people to action change, leaders want to invite people to do something. So creating an opportunity for them to do that with you. So that takes a little thinking to think about, you know, and all this comes into the communications part that you saw in my, my little diagram, anything there that I’m going to show it again, since I forgot this, record that part before but you know, communications, whether we’re, you know, speaking to within our organization, outside our organization, it’s really needs to be, you know, grounded into all of this. And communications is so critical, even to communicate with our financial systems, people in our operation systems, people and all that communication is so central to all of this, and having your clarity about your purpose and your goals with whatever, so that you can and so that you know what your next step is, and therefore, like yesterday, it was great. Grace, when you just said, if you don’t mind, at the end of it, please, you know, if I can put a shameless plug in, it’s not shameless. It’s letting people know providing information and giving people an opportunity to build relationships.
Yes, if I need, I can just before we leave, I just want to tell you guys something is getting a wonderful, except for two days, no. And I will try to get in touch with each of you, I have discovered you have so many skill sets that I will need, that will be beneficial to my program. And also, I believe that you also have some skill set that will be beneficial to your program. That’s Well, how from Grayson, are you doing something with the women the tie this thing, we have a program that has to do with girl child education. So like to me as we feel and see how we can promote that and raise awareness. And then just puppies in event management and entertainment, mental thing can we can use some of the context and your voice to raise awareness and other things for women issues, things like cancer, I think of the rise of cancer awareness month. And the way the whole thing is going, no people of most minority communities don’t really get paying much attention to that. And so we might work together to try to bring that trying to put together a program that we saw in Nigeria, but one to expand it to go beyond Nigeria in terms of the Cancer Awareness Program, because it affects almost everyone in the world. So that’s what we’re trying to put together. And also Fernando we do people skills, you know, so we’ll be really, really would like all of you to participate in it. And then Karen, being our mother hen, you know, the mental, so we’ll definitely be calling upon you to so I’m really excited. I know we have learnt a lot from all of what you’ve shared, this really made my program Barry’s would have made me better, especially yesterday, and today no listening to you. And under the nail and grace, it opened a whole lot of perspectives for me and credit so many things, things I need to find tunes and things I need to get better at and things I need to improve on. So it’s been wonderful, I am just calling you guys out. So know that thank you very much for giving me the opportunity. I really appreciate it.
Yeah, and and that’s the thing is each one here in this room, even just it’s just a few people. But it’s remarkable what can be done. Even the connections that can be made. Just the cross fertilization of ideas, the encouragement, the support, can be can last for years. And there’s no reason why it can’t. And as you know, as we move forward and pull in other people. So I certainly really, really hope that that all of you stay connected with you know, even if it’s coming back to the next time the change, change leadership live, even if it’s just at that level and connecting and staying connected with one another. It’s this kind of thing can just really change everybody’s direction in life because that’s that’s what we do as human beings and we we make a difference. Yeah. So, um, maybe so anybody else got a what you would like to offer and what you would like to benefit from? Me?
Yeah. Um, I, I’m, I’ve been told I’m brutally honest. So what I can guarantee that I can provide is an honest opinion, in a very objective one. I’m pretty new to this part, like, this very kind of formal activism world. But I’m also very willing to learn. So I can also offer like a helping hand, like, if on anything that I can, like, learn quickly and be useful and helpful. And from I would like, from you guys, since I’m, again, I’m starting my mentoring this world, it’s pretty new for me. I’m just like, an open communication channel. More than like, if, like, right now for on top of my head, I can, I’m don’t have like anything very specific in mind. But if something specific comes to mind, and maybe a couple of months, or six or a year, I would just like to have like an open communication channel to reach out?
Absolutely. I think you put your email in there. And I think at least you know, I just say, you know, each each person put their own email in that they want to share. I’ve got all your emails, but I don’t shoot that’s, it’s completely up to you to share that. You know, it’s up to you. But yeah.
So
do one of my questions to grace? Do you? Does anybody in the UN Office have a relationship with the Nigerian Ambassador at the moment?
Um, not that I know, of, I would need to check.
We haven’t done anything. Um, missions. And while from what I’m aware, I’ve also only been in my position for a little over
a year and a half now. So
well, that’s quite a mission. Yeah.
Yeah. Just
Yeah. But, um, in terms of this, I guess I just put my email in the chat. Um, yeah, I also don’t have like, super specific, you know, the, the, but, um, yeah, I mean, what I can provide what women’s Federation can provide, it’s definitely a network, if you know, you ever want to know, if women’s Federation has a chapter in your country.
Reach out, I can see if I can connect you.
On the website and our website, you can get a sense of the types of projects we do, if it’s something that
is,
I don’t know, relevant to your work or relevant to your interests, um, to know more about whether that’s just reporting or getting involved or whatever. Um, there’s that. Um,
and
also, if you’re interested in learning, or like being part of like, you know, formal, more of a formal as you call it, Danielle, activist stuff. You know, we do like side events and parallel events at the different sessions at the United Nations, and so one of the major ones that we do women’s Federation in New York is the annual Commission on the Status of Women, which is the second largest session of the United Nations. So it’s going to be all virtual in in 2020, March 2020. Um, so we can participate from anywhere and if you’re interested in being considered to be part of our Organizing Committee, um, you know, feel free to reach out if that’s something that’s interesting to you. Um, and, and ask, I mean, we have an internship program, a volunteer program, if there’s anyone that, you know, that you see that would like to contribute in this kind of area, feel free to share, share my email with them. Yeah.
Oh, what’s your website? Sorry. Yeah, the website, the woman Federation website,
just the last part of her email
address. I can drop it in here too. It’s currently going under like, anyway, we’ve experienced some glitches in the redesign, so it’s not perfect, but would you vexes me because I’m perfectionist, but um,
don’t stay to Vic’s grace.
But it works.
It works. And so you can see kind of this stuff by
the way that website 1997. It has existed since I coded that website in Perl. Oh, you did? I bought the domain and coded it in Perl. You don’t even know what Perl is.
Well, no, we actually we transitioned websites we just got it was 29 2018. We transition to Squarespace. But before that, yeah, we had this. That’s that.
Yes. Squarespace whatever that that’s Yeah. I mean, that’s clearly you’re not a coder, otherwise you would go. But yeah, no. I just say, I didn’t know that. Now, you know, cool. 1997 there were hardly any websites then.
Women’s Federation ahead of the times.
Back in the day,
Fernanda?
Well, so, um, I’m happy also to share with you my email right now, um, I’m a bit busy. No, well, BC, but I’m also, um, I have like a lot of things I want to do. And I would like to make something that really has a purpose. And also, I’m really interested on all things regarding women and young women primarily. Because I had the opportunity to work on a program for students, middle school students, and it was just for girls, and I get really passionate about that topic. So right now, I’m thinking like, how can I, like work on this with some of my friends and colleagues, because I really need to figure out as you were saying, like, what the, what’s the day underneath? And I think that I may have like, some ideas, but there may be like, my, my own personal experience, and I need to really find out how can I help. So I really will, I feel really grateful to hear because I think that maybe not right now. But in a few in a few months, maybe we can interact and we can connect and we may have like a better approach, and a very connection in order for us to maybe find, as Grace was saying, like, ways to work together or maybe just finding out like, Where are you doing here in Mexico and like, what people are willing to, to do also regarding all these, all these topics, so Well, right now I share with you my email, please feel free, if you want to talk with me connect with me, I will be really happy. And will and I had the opportunity also to work with some people in the US Premier League with the National Center for Women in it. And I may have like, maybe have some good contacts of, of women and that are really working and advocating for making a change primary on the on the Latino community, because that’s the, the people I get more in touch with. And they are they are really, really great people. So maybe if also, you know, if you have any band and you want to meet someone, or maybe to have someone to give, I have like many contacts of people that are willing to to give a training or a workshop about STEM for example. And so, feel free also to get in touch with me if you need anything.
Fantastic. So I mean, even just this small, little tiny group can cross pollinate so much. And we’ll work toward again, as I said, one of the plans is to have a think of a better name for it, but of you know, building social capital weekend where there’s a whole lot more networking opportunities, specifically for people who really are in the space of social change and because
One or two, you know,
really, really, really strong working partnerships. They don’t, they don’t happen so often, but the cross pollination of ideas and you and you’ve got to start somewhere, you’ve got to find the persons or the people for that, that can really work well, you know, organization to organization, or individual to individual. But still, there are so many other ways together and to benefit from being around and hearing about what one another does. So it is just a very valuable time. So we are at 202. I didn’t let you out early today. Um, so but pretty close. So that’s about it for today. We have just one more day left with one another. And tomorrow. Oh, oh.
Oh,
I didn’t do a wheel today. Did I? I don’t know whether I’ve still got it somewhere. I,
I I’m not maybe I closed it out. We might have to do a we’ll have a will of names first thing tomorrow morning because I can’t I’d have to set it up and put the names in and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So sorry about no we’ll have names today. And I still haven’t figured out your prizes. I’ll think about I’ll have that information for you tomorrow, I guess.
Today, the ones for today, tomorrow and also the one for tomorrow as well. So,
Ah, okay. Well, how about we have one at eight o’clock in the morning. And then we have one right after lunch. Okay.
Okay. All right. So
we’ll see you tomorrow, everybody. restwell tonight. Look forward to
see ya. Bye.
Bye, guys. See you tomorrow.
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Say Welcome to day three of the change leaders master plan live. So already where we’re day three, we’ve been, I think, you know, we’ve covered quite a lot of territory. And we’ve still got some stuff to really get through today. And I’m still excited about today. I hope you guys remembered I forgot to remind you right at the end of the day, but I hope that your memories are strong and clear. And your commitment is right there. And so perhaps that you did actually spend a little bit of time thinking again about your your x pitch your X Factor sentence. Did anybody and I’d love to hear you know, if you came up with, you know, something that you you know, share with us what you came up with?
Oh, no homeworkers?
Everybody when everybody got off the call and celebrated, finished for the day, Daniella. Go ahead,
I did give it some thought I just like didn’t come up with anything. Like, I realized that I should add the phrase add on to nowhere, but didn’t come up with anything. Yeah.
Okay. Anyway, so then I’m going to go through some more stuff this morning, that might give you some additional. It’s not, it’s not going to, you know, I’m not I’m not going to be giving you any of the words. But, um, uh, you know, maybe some of some more of this will soak in. And we’ll give you some additional thoughts as you work on your, your, your little x pitch, you know, when you are around and when you are out there. So I’ll give you a little bit more context, a little bit more background to fill that in as to why it’s important, how it can help you and some of the additional pieces to add into your thinking about that. And in that sense to help I hope it helps you value being able to continue to hone this almost like you’re continuing to sharpen the knife and make it even sharper and clearer and more on track for what you want to do. You know, for your core sense of mission. But before I get into that, I’d like to just again, begin today, with a little bit of, you know, finding out what were what was perhaps one or two of your biggest takeaways from yesterday. What what you know, struck a chord, what did you see differently? What was a new idea or what just simply Yeah, but just simply struck a chord.
I thought about what you said, about considering also like the currents underneath. Mm hmm. Like those kinds of things. Like I like it’s very, I’ve heard the phrase like, see the big picture a lot. But you never know, when you’re actually seeing the big picture. And to have a way like to dismember it a little and know, okay, I hear the waves here, though. That’s the like, that’s the current that’s some, like having the different parts and make the big picture. It’s easier. Right? You know, that your thing? Everything.
Yeah. And to know, that you’ve got, and that’s, again, comes back, which is, I think, a little bit of the the unique piece in all of this is that that the stakeholders, that approach to delving into people’s deeper concerns, is part of the way you plumb those depths and get to understand the deepest currents in there, that often people don’t speak about to one another in their day to day language. So that having that mechanism, that simple tool that allows you, you know, when you’re when you’re on a boat, one of the ways that you can, you can tell what the currents are doing is you drop down a weighted line. You drop it down, if it goes down the currents, you know, wherever that weight goes down to if it goes down to 15 feet, and all of a sudden you find the the angle the line is going out an angle like this out to the side, you know that 15 feet down, there is a pretty strong parent, if it just goes straight down, you know, okay, at 15 feet, there’s not much of a current, drop it down to 30 feet, see where it goes, drop it down even further, you can see what the deepest currents are. So even when you’re at sea, where you don’t have you, you know, ways to really figure stuff out, you still need simple mechanisms. Yeah, you can have all you know, your, your, your, all of your electronics. But if you don’t always have access to like electronics, and big machinery that can help you understand all of the big picture, you don’t have AI in your organization that is constantly utilizing all of the data feeds that you’ve got or not. Most of the time, we don’t have those kinds of resources big companies do, but they don’t always use them. They don’t always use them well. But we need simple mechanisms to help us plumb those depths and understand and that, I hope you can see that that tool, that simple, fairly simple tool really helps you plumb the depths of the underlying currents that are going on, that are always talked about in the day to day coffee, talk around the coffee pot or even publicly spoken about in in meetings and programs. So that that idea and understanding of the currencies is a very useful and powerful one. And I was happy to hear that you picked up on that Daniella. Fantastic. Yeah,
that that was one thing. And the other thing with something that actually brace says it kind of stuck in my head, that Grey’s, you said we operate at a personal level. So like, kind of, it’s so obvious, but like stuck in that like stuck with me? being like, yeah, like even if you’re dealing with a big company, you’re still have to, like deal with one person. And maybe the other person is not having a good day. And like that can interfere with the outcome with everyone. No, it shouldn’t. But everyone knows that it’s on control.
Yes.
Yes. You like that? That kind of stuck in my head? The whole day?
Cool. Very cool.
Thank you, Daniela.
Yeah, I guess for me, I mean, kind of similar to Daniela, in the undercurrent thing, when that was coming up. Like when you were talking about that what was coming up is like, it’s always a nice talk. You know, like, it’s one thing to be like, okay, yeah, you need to, like, Look, and try and find the, like, you know, that’s how you navigate this is how you do is like, you go and you try and find the depths, but it’s like, in practice, it’s so much less clear.
Mm hmm.
And that’s what was coming up. And so even just now, when you were just reiterating the fact that, okay, like, that is where the the stakeholder drivers thing comes in handy. was just a little bit more helpful for me to kind of make the connection between like, Okay, this is the objective, and like, how you would go about correcting your course and all that, um, you know, with your analogy of the boat and everything, but this is specifically the tool that can get you to be able
to
Yeah, yeah, cuz I just know for like myself, like, again, like operating on a personal level. Like, it’s not so easy to know where you are.
Like, no, it’s not. It sounds so funny. You know, what do you mean, you don’t know where you are? You’re where you up? But you’re always in a context. Yeah.
Because we’re all very complex people. So
yeah, anyway, so that’s what was coming up for me.
Yeah, it’s it, I always find it quite fascinating that it is so it to me, it’s just one of those funny things. What do you mean, you’re, you’re spending all your time figuring out where you are? Just, it’s just one of those funny things that you you think that that would be such an obvious thing where we are, but it’s not. And that’s and that’s it, see, and that’s an allies and that’s why we need the whole concept of triangulation. When you’re navigating, it’s like, okay, you know, and there, it’s just very simple mathematics geometry. I can see the headland over there. I can see a lighthouse over there. I can see the outline of a mountain over there. And on my chart, I can see that this is where the mountain is, this is where the head land is. And this is where the the lighthouse is. And you use your compass to say, okay, that’s at that heading, say 30 degrees, this is a 90 degrees, and this is a 187 degrees, then you draw those lines on the mat, and you say, Oh, so this is where I am, and you usually got some kind of a rough area that you know, you know, pretty much within that tiny little space, you probably are, but even since you took those measurements, the waves or the current have moved on a little bit more. But again, then having your destination in mind, then you’re pretty sure about your course correction, which direction therefore, you need to start to hit your, your boat. Now in, in, in real life, a lot of the ways we triangulate and do things like that is, is with, you know, taking assess, you know, whether it be assessments that can be a physical, you know, how is our health? What is our mood? How much do I know how much more do I need, it varies in in terms of what you’re looking at, and considering at the time, but that’s kind of the value of assessments and, and trying to figure out not just what’s going on inside, on your boat with the crew, your own crew, so to speak. But also, how it’s working with this particular person, because many times you can get a sense of
I mean, some relationships are very unique.
You can have be having a good relationship with one person not a good one with the other now, is it them? Or is it me, you know, what’s going on? Is it all you know? Am I you know, is this person who’s coming to work today? And they’re in a shitty mood, um, you know, have I done something? Or is it them, and then, you know, you can quickly check with how you’re relating to other people, the little things that go on all the time that you probably don’t even think that you’re thinking about, but that, you know, we get that kind of feedback. But the point is here that we’re needing to constantly double check and assess where we where we are from other sources, other than just our own feelings, which do have their own, you know, rhythm and flow. And so part of it is just, you know, it’s just being aware of that and dealing with that. And finding ways, then when you get into business, then of course, you find you have other ways of triangulating your progress and your and your how you’re getting how, whether you’re improving, whether you’re treading water, whether you’re going backwards, and this has been where we’ll and we’ll get to this part of the okrs. And then actually, we’ll get to them in the next session, because I’ve got a few things for this one, but but they become a useful means to help you keep your eyes on where you are bike having those okrs. And for those of you who don’t know, we will get into that. But this is just speaking to those who have done the impact and influence training, formula training so far, that as you you set those up and utilize them they become your constant checking mechanism, one on one of your constant checking mechanisms to see are you on track, you know, are you getting to the next waypoint on your program or milestone on your on your journey or milestone, and they become your you’re setting up these means for you to constantly check and assess and keep you on track on the things that are the most important to you. So that’s how these the okrs and the where we get to with, they not only help you with this kind of monitoring of your progress, but also with the alignment of what it is that you’re doing across the whole organization or across your own considerations in your own personal life. So yeah, thanks. Thanks for that. Yeah.
Anybody else reflections, takeaways from yesterday.
Yes, I think that, for me, what was really clear yesterday was the importance of going through a process where we become aware of all the elements at the authority, all the elements of The X Factor. And that it’s really critical to realize that it may be somehow complex, but you need to be clear about who are your stakeholders? And what’s your objective. And I think that may be the hardest part right now for me, because I may not be so clear on Richard needs, and which is artists, specifically, which are the stakeholders that I will like to work with, or that I’m interested on. So I think it was a really, really good exercise because it made me realize, which are my inputs? And also, what do I want to do on where do I want to go? And I think that might be one of the first steps when you try to realize what you will be doing next.
Right, and one of the things that we as human beings, like we would like to get an answer right now, you know, I’d like to know what reality is, you know, most of these things are iterative processes that you know it and and you kind of need to look at your passions, you need to think about it, I mean, even just from the point of view that, that it, you know, the the thinking process through time, we think about one thing, and then we think about the other and then we think about the other, it’s kind of naturally intuitive, but instead of seeing it as circular, I always like to see things as a spiral progression. But that, but that circular nature, that iterative nature is just, it’s, you know, the days every you know, is each day, we have a new day, but it’s iterative, it’s not the same day, it’s a new day, enough, but it’s and it’s a building, and so especially in this area of way you’re working through and, and clarifying those things for you, it really is. Yeah, it’s a little process. And, you know, we like to get it done. So we know what we’re doing. But also to simply accept that it is it takes a little time. And even there, as you saw in that four part for the, for the stakeholders to really settle in on that, that actually requires saying, Okay, well, I will take some time in the next week or two, whatever it will take for you to go and speak to them. And then you bring that information back into this process. But then that is really and it it’s not a boring process, it’s it’s actually really helpful and really quite meaningful process, which are, yeah.
Wonderful.
If Anya, anything hit you from yesterday,
in terms of the
No, really, other than what I shared yesterday, what basically I’ve been thinking is, you know, evolve in the evolution of our program and organization, you know, just narrowing it down to a very specific way, you can look at it and know exactly what we are about. In in just within just a minute. Right to kind of bring it down and comprising everything was still not you know, it’s not just wordy, but condensing it to maybe a five a sentence as you said, You know, I was able to get that done yesterday, still feel that okay, still need to make it way it’s not all that bulky, you know, and this appearance is just been great just narrowing down looking at the various stakeholders that we have, because our stakeholders are one the beneficiaries who come across you know, from all walks of life, right, that socio economic status. So, also within those beneficiaries, they are, you know, there are those who are better off than the others. Then we have the, the the volunteers, the members who probably in one way or the other, I like the beneficiaries also, because some of them still did not understand, okay, what we are doing how we ought to do with and all of these scenarios, some of them have, it took different mindsets, but gradually seeing everybody beginning to come together to understand what we are about providing service in a dignified manner to our beneficiaries, and also the board members, who are also beginning to understand the concept. And other thing that we’re doing so interacting with them, and also cool partnering and strategizing as to how to get there, and to be able to make ourselves the go to organization for this particular purpose, once that thing comes on is okay, why don’t we contact this organization so that the six weeks training and even these two days is begin to give me an idea to bring all these things to together? Right. So it’s been great, I think, as we continue to work on them, gradually, we’ll get to where we ought to get to.
Yeah. And, and the, the part of the point about coming up with, you know, a short, concise sentence, a part of that is just so that, that’s an easy way for you to be clear about your own sense of purpose and mission. And quickly, remind yourself, because even in the day to day activities, it’s, it’s easy to kind of get lost as to what your real purpose and mission is. And some, sometimes we have to simply remind ourselves, but another purpose of having just a very simple piece, you know, about what you’re doing and your organization like that. Is that when you are I mean, how many times do you come home? I mean, I guess, not as many times today, we, you know, we’re not we’re not out in other meetings, and just stumbling across people so much. But still, whenever you go somewhere and you meet somebody new, what’s one of the first things they ask?
What do you do?
What do you do?
And it’s good to have a very simple
answer that hones in on on what it is that you do, and so that people can respond to you. And if it’s something of interest to them,
then they can say, Tell me more.
You know, so whereas if you just set up, I, you know, I hang out at home, Oh, that’s nice.
You know, it could be a lost opportunity.
It could be, you know, that person could, could have some connection that you would love to have. And so it’s kind of like fishing for a fish, without any bait on the hook. You can catch fish that way. But only certain kinds of fish, or you have to be extremely lucky. Otherwise, you have to bait the hook. Now, you know, if you’ve already got that done, and you’ve always got you know, some bait in the water, then the chances of you catching something that you’re you know, connecting with somebody. I mean, people are not fish, but it’s but the amount, it’s the analogy is the same as catching people’s attention and getting their interest, and you need something to do that. And, you know, even especially if you’re out there, and you’re you know, at some stage or you’re looking for a job, you’re going to have to have your line that you know, what is it that you do, but even there to get a job when you say that this is what you do, and this is who you work with, and this is what you love, then somebody who was working in that sphere, much more quickly, responses. Oh, that’s you know, that’s fascinating. Do you know somebody? Or do you think and then you can turn around and say no, but I’d love to meet Do you know anybody I mean, you can start up a conversation that is then meaningful and useful to you. So it because you never know where you’re going to find to come across somebody that just could be, you know, the absolute perfect person for you to work with, or who knows the absolute perfect person for you to work with. So having that you know, even from that pragmatic perspective, or from grace around the UN, you know, you’re speaking to up the aim doesn’t NGOs or whatever, or you run across the ambassador from Nigeria, you say you work with international organizations and those who even work and if you happen to know that He was the Nigerian ambassador, you could say, and I work with, you know, with a number of NGOs who are working both in America and and in Nigeria. You know, they people at your interest, would you like to meet them or speak with them? I mean, the thing is, if you’re if you’re ready with your basic line, and of course you always adapted, and you always take context and circumstances into consideration, you’re not just a machine answering one thing one way, so and that, yeah, so that brings me to a little, I want to I thought of a simple little exercise, or, you know, a simple little experience. So, I’m going to play something that you can listen to. And I’m not going to tell you anything about I just want you to listen. And then I’m going to ask you your thoughts and just want your your thoughts and comments. After you’ve heard this, we’ll just take it’s, it’s the song and I’m just going to hopefully you can hear this music. And then and then I’m going to so I want you to listen to this and then I’m going to show you something else and then see see something that’s different, okay, so
cavemen
Okay, folks about that song, just honest.
quick comments.
Good or bad? Kind of good.
Okay, basically, what I got for me is somebody who is like, taking responsibility to try to get somewhere and is about if I can only try I will get to where I’m headed to though despite this can be some obstacles. But I have to try and I will try to give you all my best shot to get that because where I’m heading to is a great and wonderful place plays and the outcome will be greater than just sitting down you know, whining about stuff. Yeah. Yep.
Thank you.
I liked it. I thought it was a cute song. And it felt like yeah, like, I’m gonna try it but I understood it like to improve myself was a person. Okay, like not do anything. In particular just be like a better version of me.
quick responses from grace and Fernanda
Yes, for me, I think it makes me remember that even though we may be in a complex context, and we may have lied a lot of people, people that around me, well around us, we must always think on ourselves. And remember that we are the ones that guide our journey. And that takes a decision in order for us to start building or continue with that journey. So it’s always on my responsibility and working on myself. I’m thinking on where do I want to go? Even though I may know or I may see that other things may not be the way I will let it
fool. You are such a thoughtful group of people. Amazing, any quick comments? Grace doesn’t have to be long. Just If you liked it, you didn’t like it was okay. That’s fine.
I mean, I kind of reflect a lot of the what was already said, but I think what comes up was
Yeah, ownership over where you’re going and your direction.
and
perseverance as well. The power of like,
being able to be, you know,
be clear about what your purpose is. And regardless of what happens around you sticking to sticking the course of just constantly trying, yeah.
Thank you.
I am now going to play this partially again, so that everybody can see what’s happening and and hear a bit a little bit more of the story. Ah, hold on, let me let me stop this. I want to make sure that when I share the screen
there we go.
You’ve got to now
try to do too many things. Okay.
Just won’t do that one, but I’ll do that.
So, you know, why is it doing that? Okay.
Hi, I re
installed my computer just the day before.
I have to redo. Okay, so here we go.
How are you? What’s your name?
Mandy Harvey. And who’s this? My interpreter?
What’s your name?
Sarah. Nice.
Okay, Mandisa. I think I’ve worked this out. So you’re Yes.
Yes. I lost my hearing when I was 18 years old.
Wow. And how old are you now?
29. So 10 years.
Wow. Mandy, how did you lose your hair? If you don’t mind me asking.
I have a connective tissue disorder. So basically, I got sick and my nerves deteriorated.
So you were singing before you lost your hearing?
Yeah, I’ve been singing since I was four. So I’ve left music after I lost my hearing and then figured out how to get back into singing with muscle memory using visual tuners. Interesting, my pitch
so your shoes are off because you’re feeling the vibration. Is that how you’re following the music? Yeah,
I’m feeling the tempo the beat through the floor
might be what are you gonna say?
I’m gonna sing a song that I wrote called try.
Okay, can you tell me what it’s about?
After I lost my hearing, I gave up. But I want to do more with my life than just give up. So.
Okay, well, this is your moment and good luck.
Okay.
Sky sky.
Given
so the second time watching that
did the music? What was your?
Was it different?
It’s same power ever, it’s kind of reinforced in a different dimension. Because you can feel the emotion from this planning what had happened and that emotion can afford the desire to even push further I made a note as she was speaking that the only person that can stop you is you. You know, you can imagine somebody who is singing, and cannot even hear the beauty of the voice and has devised a way to keep pushing and pushing, regardless of the fact that she could not even hear herself. But she devised a new way, an innovative way of understanding whether it’s good or not. And I appreciated that, and even celebrated that because when I see someone who tried and is now celebrating the success of their trial, so it’s very, very encouraging. listening to it, and then seeing exactly, you know, it’s it’s inspiring. It’s just beyond that, so thank you.
Yeah, I think for me, it reinforces the
the significance of knowing
the drivers
of a person. Yeah, you get the fuller picture of where they’re coming from.
Yes, I think it was really inspiring, and make me think that sometimes we don’t know what someone else would be women might be going through. So it makes it even more vulnerable. And, as Anthony was saying, it’s really encouraging to see her and to feel, what she what she was doing.
And she’s very passionate about singing and music. And she found a way to pursue it.
Yeah. Yeah.
If like, if it’s meant for you and you want it, there’s always like, you can find a way to make it happen.
So, also, I think it also shows how when we from a certain perspective, when we frame things when we put the whole rest of the picture or you know, we fill in the picture or plumb the depths or whatever it is understand the whole context. It makes it makes almost the the simple experience of the music itself. And the words itself, you know, much more full and complete and different like a fine You said it added a whole nother dimension to it. So that’s one way of saying you know, never sing your song without a story or something like that. So also, you know, part of part of what it is that you for you as change and social change leaders is to communicate the stories, the framework of what you’re doing. And when when, when somebody like me comes along and asks you just to distill it down into just a few. A few words, maybe you can’t do all of that in that one sentence. But still, sometimes your simple choice of words in that one sentence can bring in a whole nother sense of meaning. So yeah, so just putting that out there. And, and also making it adding that as well, from the point of view. And part of what this little pieces here, there’s kind of two components that I guess I’m trying to get at this morning. And one is the leadership component, and you as the leader of your life, and you as the one who makes the objectives where you’re going to go, who decides when you’re going to leave the dock. And when you’re going to at what speed you’re going to go, what do you know what, who you’re going to put on deck at the right time, you know, all of those little smaller, seemingly smaller decisions, but they’re your decisions as the leader of your life. You expand that out into your organizational level, then as a team leader, as the organizational leader, you are still the ones putting all of these things in place. But as you go into out into society, we’ve been part of the piece that comes into play here is the context is framing, how you What story around what you’re doing, you tell the the way you understand it. Now, when I go back to guiding people, advising people, mentoring people on how to work with, for example, work with stakeholders, such as the diplomatic community, or any others. So much of what is involved in that is, is really getting to understand their world.
Which is, again, it’s just reiterating that, but finding out that context, their context, their depths, and their environment, what’s around them. And putting understanding yourself in that situation. So that that you can then see when they need to go on the journey, as the person responsible in your organization for helping develop the stakeholder journeys, getting them to go from interested to curious and and even potentially engaged to the point where they’re committed to supporting you in profound ways, which is the objective, or for a finding a person who is a beneficiary to where they’re kind of exploring what you’re going to do with them, maybe they trust you, maybe they don’t, to getting them to go to the next stage where they’re actually going to invest themselves in what you’re providing them. Because beneficiaries don’t necessarily invest themselves in what you’re providing, even if it’s really excellent. They don’t always, but to get them to that stage, there is that journey to take them through that even beneficiaries and you think they would want help. But no, as funny mentioned, the other day, not all do. And sometimes even they have a journey to go on to see the value of what you have to offer. So it’s just I’m just underscoring that to say that there are these depths, and then the context, the story around is a little bit more like the waves and the local environments. It is that environmental factor. That is absolutely another critical factor. And part of why you don’t necessarily need instruments to plumb the depths because you can’t see it. You do need to really look and step into their perspective from where they are, you can it’s almost it’s an awareness, it’s a development of a of awareness of their situation of standing and looking at the world from where they are, what is it they’re seeing, what are they feeling, what are they concerned about, you know, if they’re concerned about their next meal, and you’re talking about to them about
what they can learn in the next three weeks.
They may not hear part of what you’re saying, that’s a more obvious example. But the bigger picture of when you deal with your stakeholders and this gets to a little bit of the the I want to do, hopefully, we’ll get to this later on a little bit more of the action plan, I want you to prioritize, identify your stakeholders, prioritize your stakeholders, and then then map out one, one stakeholder journey on paper so that you walk away with that. So that I put that out there to say that part of what you’re an exercise in, coming up with a solid stakeholder journey map is really looking at the lay of the land. Understanding what in boating and fishing terms as local knowledge, or and or just really opening your eyes and noticing what the waves are doing, what the wind is doing. What that person is dealing with today, you notice whether or not they’ve they’re, you know, they’re they’ve they’ve got a headache, maybe there are so many little cues and clues that you can utilize to understand where a person is and what they’re dealing with, in addition to asking them, the stakeholder drivers helps them helps you understand those deeper components, but then you do have the lay of what is what is around them what they’re contending with, at this time. So that so there is that I wanted to just give you a as a, as a, as a in a way, as a practical example, when you understood that she was deaf, I think it brought a whole nother level to understanding you know, her both the meaning behind the words. And, and also appreciation of the actual music and her accomplishments of that time. It just made a lot of that make more sense. So. And that’s the importance of context and framing. And always remember when you go and you go into the UN, the context is, for example, it’s it’s an intergovernmental environment. And so you’re not just going into the place where NGOs have every same right and access and whatever else. And so then you’ve got to figure out how in that environment, can I nevertheless function and still read? That’s the strategic part, the thinking about it Park, when you’re dealing with your you know, when when they find you deals with his stakeholders on the ground? You know, it’s really important for him to understand, what are they really dealing with? Not just how he sees them, and how he’s coming in to help and what he what resources he’s got for them. But how can this person actually receive those things? When are they ready for it? Is today the right day? Do I have to set that up? How much preparation Do I need to help them even fully comprehend the value of what he’s actually able to provide? So there are just so many different dimensions to this, but it’s really important, the people who will be successful factor these components in to their thinking and their preparations and their planning. And then I just wanted to, from the point of view of you, as, as leaders, I want you to think about for a moment. And in the context of what you wrote yesterday, I’m going to give you just a couple of minutes to think about and to write down some thoughts about how you want people to feel when they’re around you. And maybe you know, think in terms of I mean, you could think in terms of your friends, maybe just set your your friends aside. Let’s say you were coming across another person who you they that perhaps one of your interest, people who you would be interested in connecting with
and how would you like them to feel when they are around you. I’m going to give you just two minutes jot down a few thoughts about that.
question, please.
Yeah? How do you want people to feel? Not just what do they want you to see? What do you want them to see? But how do you want them to feel when they are around you?
I guess, just to put it out there, and I’ll I will. I will give you the full two, two minutes after I’ve said this, but it comes from something that I heard somebody say no, not all that long ago. That just is I think, just a really helpful thought is that people fall in love with you, because of who they become.
When they are around you.
People fall in love with you.
I mean, not necessarily romantically, but you know, people fall in love event that it could be, but people fall in love with you because of who they become
when they are around you.
People fall in love with you because of who they become when they’re around you. And therefore, I’m going to give you two minutes to think about how do you want people to feel when they’re around you. Okay.
Did you have a question before you do that, Fernando, you? You’re
Yes, I got it. I got it. Thanks.
Anybody come up with something, a thought and this kind of thing you can think more about but it’s good just to jot a few things down and get get yourself started on these kinds of things. How do you want people to feel when they are around you?
Oh, well. Basically, one thing I really like for people to feel and be confident, be confident about themselves. That is, that’s one thing that really makes me feel okay. Another thing feel empowered to dissent and inspired and also feel encouraged and strengthened the things that I really like for them. I want them to see themselves as being able to conquer whatever challenge that you’re facing. It’s not about who they are where they about their determination to succeed, that determination to push forward. And that’s one thing I really like them to do and share that with people around me that for you to really hang out with me, it’s not about your social status, that is not the issue about how much you have or how much you don’t have, you have to be confident, you have to be able to, because I want to create a platform where someone coming around me doesn’t feel like they are a disadvantage. Right, they are able to see whatever they want to see, regardless of whether I’m the benefactor or not, they should have the ability to disagree with me, and also state their own point that I will respect that I will all know that I will appreciate, rather than being a yes, man. So one of the guys who work for us he accident is and I shared with him that I want him to be in a situation where he has the opportunity to disagree with me, you know, and state his own case, as a salt problem, he brings it he says, Okay, this is the challenge we’re facing, this is my suggestion and how we need to solve it, you know, and I would like that to happen and not see me as a boss, or someone who pays him to do things. But you know, when he comes around, he should feel okay. And speak his mind, you know, not in an insulting way. Because I’m not, you know, not in a disrespectful manner, but be able to articulate his thoughts. So the more he does that, the more I appreciate and respect that, but if he’s outside, and he says yes to everything I say, because I have this way of doing things. Sometimes I’ll say the wrong thing, just to see how the person responds. They say yes, and agree to everything. At that point in time I stopped gradually withdraw myself from that individual, because that’s the person that will most likely put me in trouble. Because you see exactly something I’m doing wrong. And you can’t even come up to say, Hey, stop this, this is not the right thing that you feel, you’ll be on my good books by saying yes to everything I say, I’m not even coming up this, okay, you’re headed the wrong direction. So be your own person, be confident, be inspired, being colleagues, say what you mean. And mean what you say.
And, and being in a situation to help help show people how to go from because many, not all bosses, so to speak, or persons in positions of responsibility, in relative to others, are as open minded, and people can have had all different kinds of experiences and have learned in the past.
What I’ve done in the past is in southern Georgia that I have had us train people to be able to do what I do, yeah, yeah, tell them listen, I want this to be shown when I when I leave here tomorrow, I want my replacement to be someone that’s working to me, not someone from outside. So I opened up to them, this is the what this job entails, this is what you need to do. And I show them exactly what needs to be done. Because Hey, I want you to compete for the position, you know, and that’s the whole thing. So I believe in strategic succession, succession planning. So quickly, creating that
culture in your organization is very powerful when you create a culture so that it’s, as you say, so that it’s them and the way they operate and the way they then operate with their colleagues and even the people on their teams down the road, then this is all part of creating a culture within your organization that supports that kind of transparency. That’s where innovation comes from when people are allowed to have ideas that are, you know, even you’re allowed to have ideas that that don’t work. Others are allowed to have ideas that don’t work. I mean, we’re all allowed to in that sense, we’re allowed to be human, but to to create the the collective environment where the best way to move forward can be can be can evolve and come out of it. That’s it’s such an important thing, if I need it, when you’re, as you say, to be training those who are others in your organization. To do the same thing is to have that culture. What you’re doing there is essentially creating the culture of your organization as one that is open and engaged. able able to really share new novel different ideas. Not all organizations encourage that. So I commend you for doing that. Yeah. And yes, you know, in those organizations, you’re still going to have your structure and you’re still going to have the, you know, final decisions that will be made. The people, so many amazing experiences can come out come up from the artists place. From my perspective, the oddest place, but the point is, you know, the main point there is to value which is what I hear and see you doing everywhere to value people’s experience, their respect them and to dignify them with their, you know, with them making a genuine contribution. antastic Yeah. Anybody else got some thoughts about how they want other people to feel when they’re around you.
Um, I guess what I put down is,
um,
I think one of the major things for me is I want people to feel valued. for who they are a lot. I mean, I’m gonna echo a lot about a funny
because he made some really good points. Um,
but I think
that comes up, feel free to be unique, like,
you know, feel free to be imperfect, if that makes sense. Like, I’m, like, I get the sense that from my side, I’m, I’m committed to, you know, working through things with them and not judging and like, bringing down the hammer kind of mentality. Yeah, and because that, like, if I needed, it was, like, you know, creating this environment of, I would say, openness and trust, where you are able to kind of freely express and share ideas. Also, I have here, this point of, like, trust in
me,
trust that I’m being constant and genuine.
Um, and
a sense of,
like, oneness with me in terms of a higher purpose, that we’re kind of united in the higher goals. And that I have there, like, because of that, we have our, we can be aligned, and we have like a common base, from which to, we can really relate to one another. And, but also, in general, just happy to see me excited to have a conversation with me. I think that’s really important that they don’t think that I’m,
like, you know, cuz,
you know, sometimes you can see someone, you’re just like,
Oh, please don’t talk to me, please don’t, please don’t talk to me.
Um, and I really don’t want to have that kind of situation,
that kind of person.
I want them to be able to feel like, Oh, this is exciting. Like, you know, um, yeah, just feel excited to talk to me, because they know that whatever comes out of it will be really an inspiring conversation. Wonderful. Yeah.
I think those are kind of the major points.
Yeah. Oh, very good. So in very kind of seemingly, thin language, thin, meaning not much depth, that sounds like it, but you want to be fun to be around.
Yeah,
with with, like, a core heart of unders, like feeling like you understand one another in your heart, you know.
And it’s such a simple word, it applies in so many places. But I know for many people, it’s a very, when I say thin, meaning, you know, not much depth to it, not much meaning to it, not much heart in it, but, but it’s it. That fun just captures so much when it is fully You know, when it’s meaningful, valuable and enjoyable. Even if it’s hard work. It can still be fun. Otherwise, I guess you could use the word like joy and I’ve never quite connected with the word joy. So you know, but that’s just me and my words, you know, you you might want to be a joyful person. But
yeah, anyway, fantastic.
Fernando Well,
um, I also share some of the of the points that that’s great. And if you’re new, yes, this talked about. What I wrote down is that I would like them to feel respected, taken into account and that they are not being judged. Because I really want them to feel inspired and encouraged to be themselves. So that they can share their point of view, there’s Terry’s. And also afraid to be an environment of trust, tolerance and honesty. Because I think that for young women, for example, right now, when their, their experiences experiencing a lot of things, and they also have their hormones and everything, so it’s, it’s really tough just to feel that you are in a competent place where you can just talk about what you’re feeling, even though mate, you may not know what you’re really feeling or what you really want. But I also feel, think that it’s really important for them to be inspired by others, because that will encourage them to start doing thanks. And well, I think that that’s
good. Because I and I, I guess I can’t help but
think that as you think about how you want people to feel around you, you know, then you stop and say, Well, you know, what are some of the additional things because already I mean, each one of you are inspiring people. But I suspect that you also think about how how can how can you uniquely help uplift and inspire and encourage and others to feel trusted, respected? And then also, the next step out from that is, how do I create that environment? In my teams? And in my workplace? How do I create those spaces where people can have that experience? And then continue to even work from within that experience, that container, that environment, that space? Just having that awareness, then you start to think about these things? So
Daniella? Yeah.
I, I thought, like, my first thought was that the worst kind of people that I have encountered are the kind of people that when you’re telling them something that you’re very passionate about, they either dismiss it, or find a way to tell you that you’re like, You’re crazy, but in a bad way. Yep. So I work like backwards from there. And I want to be the complete opposite of that person. So I went to feel people around me that they are heard and understood that we’re on the same team that, like I’m behind them, and that we can work together and I can help them in any way also not judged. And if they feel like they’re not judged, they can be very open and honest. And also towards me, like if I want to talk to them about something they can take, I can be as open and I can be as honest as they can be with me. I want them to be proud of what they do. Because a lot of people and it hasn’t happened to me too, that are like, yeah, I’m in the process. I’m in the middle of this, it’s still not I think it’s still a little thing. And when you have someone tell you like it’s not little, it’s not something like you already did that. It’s like another very cool feeling that for someone else. And also, I, a lot of times, people are afraid to admit that they don’t know things. Mm hmm. People are very scared to ask. And mostly because they’re when they get, like the courage to do it. Their response instead of being like, Oh, you want to learn? Let me explain to you. It’s like, how come you don’t know that? Well, I went to have people around me to feel free to ask me things. I said, it happens to me a lot like with my boyfriend, for example. He’s the kind of person that would do that in a teasing kind of way. And my response would be like, No, I don’t know, and I’m asking you to teach me. Like, I’m genuinely asking me to and he like that responsible, like, change his mindset. And he will be like, Okay, so here, let me let me show you. And I want to be that person. But I want to have to I don’t want to have that like middle step that no, I’m genuinely asking like I really don’t know. So because like not asking and not learning new things like limits work capacity, limits for your skills.
And
so you want people to feel limitless around you. Yeah, yeah. Cool. Fantastic. Anyway, thank you, each one of you for sharing those kinds of things. I think it’s anyway, it’s just a wonderful experience to hear from each one of you. And, yes, I think
I think you guys are going to have a lot of people falling in love with you
because of who they become around you. But that’s, that’s part of again, this is all recognizing and valuing the, the core elements in Yeah, the whole world don’t fall in love with you. And that would be too much anyway. But, but, but it’s, it’s really helpful to to see and to feel and to know, and to clarify, you know, that that this core element of who you are, and I put on my, my the mic, this was from another thing, but my T shirt with the human element that’s on today. And I was thinking today, maybe we should have a hashtag. And I. And because you know, when you say something really rocks, and we were talking about well, I was talking about rocks the other day, big rocks, little rocks. And in a way the human element is the big rock, I was thinking of making a hashtag of the rock, the human element, or the rocks, maybe the rocks. So the human element rocks, or in the secret language of our secret language is the human element rocks. But anyway.
So
Oh, somebody put something in the chat. hopeful sense of delight. Oh, and James. Thank you, James. James, said that he? Yeah. My apologies to James for not seeing your comments before, I think you gave your feedback on the song and he said it, I feel it reemphasize where there’s a will there’s a way regardless of the challenges, and that so that was reflecting on that song by Mandy Harvey. And then he also mentioned, I think, and this was in response to the the last exercise, he wants people to have a hope, hope to be hopeful, and to have a sense of belonging. And that’s, that’s a wonderful thing for people to feel to around you. And as you as leaders, when you as you clarify your mission, you clarify, where you’re going, what you’re wanting to do, and then you start to think and how you’re going to do do these things, then your work as a leader becomes much more intentional. And this is all part of how you become more impactful in the ways that are meaningful to you. As you hone in on these areas, as you clarify even your own for now. And you know when by the time you’re as old as I am, young, young, young, at whatever age, I am, young at over 60 I thought I’d never get here, but you know what it happened in the blink of an eye. And I don’t feel like I’m good. You know, when I’m 64 I’m, luckily my husband still loves me and still needs me when I’m 64. But so, part of your mission, will will change by now. But it’ll have been through an evolution. And that process of still fulfilling that mission all the way along. As you change your your your current destination is one thing and once you reach that destination, then you have another destination. But this whole process of clarifying your core X Factor and doing that in conjunction with your stakeholders with your skill set. Now what you’ve discovered you’re really good at and you might discover down the road that you’re also really good at something else that you never fail. I never figured that I would end up being good at working with diplomats in the United Nations can community.
Go figure.
I never would have imagined that that was something that I ended up being really good at more than most people. It wasn’t my plan, and I hadn’t planned. So at different times in your life, you will discover and you’ll probably do that either by accident or through feedback from others or because you live taste takes a twist and a turn that you know you didn’t necessarily plan on but you will do cover other other skills and things that you end up being really good at that might even surprise you. And so then you will at that stage, build those things into and then you’ve tried to find that sweet spot for as you’re moving forward on your, on your, throughout your life.
Anyways, so
Well, it looks like we’ve already made it through to the end of our first, pretty much our first little section, what I do want to do is just go over what we’re going to do for the rest of today. In this next, the next after the break, I’m going to start and dig into, you know, the kind of the navigating your journey using the tag system, your transparent and adaptive goals making system, which is in more specifically it’s using your Okay, ours. And we’ll also look at how this, how what that what kind of a process that is. And there’s there’s two ways of looking at it in the in the organizational level, there’s this matrix of of four stages. I am I’m not sure I’m going to get into the details of it, we just might not quite have time in all of today. But that there’s a parallel. And I had mentioned yesterday about the the solutions matrix the in the Okay, our application, the goals, systems, application of the Okay, ours is appeal process, and we’ll get into those. But anyway, so I’ll go into those things in the next in the next section. Then after lunch, I’m right off to lunch, we’re going to do the we’ll have names the prize, we’ll announce the prizes, and then we’ll spin the wheel again for the prizes. I think I’ll do that after lunch, maybe I’ll do that after the break before right at the end of the day, we’ll see.
I can still change my mind here.
But then also, I want you to walk at work walk out today, with kind of a simple one pager that has a number of the items that we went over, that gives you that reminds you of all of some of these elements of this master plan. So in addition to the little picture, and we could stick that on the on the on the one pager just for a diagram, but I want to give you that list of the things for you to pay attention to. So you can pull out one sheet of paper that can help remind you of all of these pieces, because in a week’s time in a month’s time in three months time, you’ll say now What was that again? I you know. And so then you know, you can just pull out one sheet of paper that can remind you of a number a number of these things for you to dig back in and either re learn or to say, Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Let me see if I can implement that now at this time. So that you have your one page master plan. And then we’ll have a closing session at the end of the day. And that’ll be basically it. For our three days. Who knew the three days would go so quickly. But so that’s about it. It’s now 929 my time, so I’ll go 15 minutes of bio coffee, Cookie break whatever it is that you need to come back and we’ll see right in 15 minutes for our next round of fun and games. See you soon.
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So welcome back to the second session on the last day of change leadership master plan live. And we’ve still got some good meaty stuff to get into. You know, that is a little bit more of the, the academic and then but I also want you to, I want you to get into doing a little bit of the planning, because, as some really smart person said, and I think some of you might remember when I said this, not pull it up, let me pull us in, share this, what gets scheduled, gets done, you know, simple little statement. But it’s, it’s part of the reality. And then these days with our calendars on our phones, and but integrate without computers, it should be pretty easy to schedule the things that are really important. And, and that can include things like when you meet with somebody say, yeah, we should, we should, we should connect, I’ll see you later, or we should connect. So I’m going to pull out my calendar, what they would work for you. There’s a difference, just just little stuff. But we don’t always do, what is good to do. And if it if in the moment you say, yeah, we should connect, and you kind of know, well, yeah, we should connect, but it’s not your top priority, then you can just leave it at that as a gesture of goodwill. But if it really is a person that either or a relationship that needs to be built, and you need to be responsible for the building of the relationship, you can’t make the relationship but you are responsible for it, then I would recommend that you schedule a then in there, you can always change the schedule penciled in, so to speak, and change it later. Although one probably one of these days penciling something in won’t mean anything to people. But in the meantime, it still means something I think, do you guys use that phrase at all? pencil it in? Sort of maybe, occasionally, okay, put it in a light gray. Not involved. Okay. Anyway, so. But the simple point here is that get things scheduled gets things done. Now, I’m not certain that I went over the peel, I think I referenced it with you guys. But there’s just this little simple cycle, peel. We’re not peeling an onion, we’re not peeling an orange here. But it’s just simply plan execute engaged learn, it’s, and it’s part of the cyclical process, it’s just simply acknowledging that there’s this ongoing iterative process toward reaching our goals, you make a plan, you set it in motion, especially in the context of okrs, which we’ll get to, then the important next step is to really make sure that this is an engagement level, and therefore you talk with other people in your team. Now, if this is you just setting up your own plans, your execution, you know, the engagement is more, you know, really sit with the issue for a little bit, then you think about how what it is that you learn from it, and then you adjust, adjust your plan for the next phase. So plan, execute, engage, learn, plan, execute, engage, learn, there is that and that you’ll see a path when if, if we get to it and if not, you know, for another time, the solutions matrix which really helps with the personal, emotional sort of stuff a little bit more, there is still the same kind of cyclical process around a core goal. So for the okrs the core in here, the core goals of the goals of the organization, the company, so of course you’re planning around your call your call purposes and mission. So okay, ours, what are they? Just very quickly, I suspect, Fernanda, you’ve heard of okrs. No, yeah. And they’re, you know, they’re, I don’t know whether you’ve ever used them, you’ve been in a group that’s operated with them. You may have academically learned about them
and I am simply saying that this is You know, one of the more exceptional, simple processes that can help not only with your goals and you know, goal setting, but when you implemented across the silos, for example, should should women’s Federation grace be able to implement this organization wide, then this is the mechanism that allows you to create in a transparent and open and reviewable way that, that helps pull everything into alignment. Of course, it won’t happen overnight. But when it’s implemented, and then there is that iterative process that peel plan, execute, and engage with people review what happened. And so that then you can learn and then together make the next level of planning, then that is the the mechanism when it’s scheduled into your system, through your long term goals, your annual goals, your quarterly goals, and your weekly, for example. And all of these things are totally adaptable to your organization. But their guidelines, they’re another template of sorts that you then start to utilize, in order to implement this kind of transparency that is otherwise. It’s not like people really always planned on going into silos, but there was no mechanism in place to make it any other way. So when you actually put in place a mechanism that allows the kind of transparency and cross fertilization of understanding insight, sharing of one another’s goals, and seeing the big picture together, and then because we are meaning makers, human beings tend to make meaning out of things. We see the all of those things, we see patterns that are meaningful to us, you know, the Rorschach test, what is that? You know, it’s an inkblot. We make meanings out of ink blots, but grief, you know, that’s what we’re wired for whatever reason we human beings make meaning out of inkblots, you know, but it’s so it’s that’s one of the ways that people historically have used to try to plumb the depths of people’s inner world to see the what, how they
perceived something.
But so this kind of thing, then gives us a way, because then you can, actually that part of the purpose of these objectives is to be transparent. And so even today, there are there are, there’s various kinds of software out there. For the enterprise level, it’s really more useful at the enterprise level when you’ve got a larger organization. But that helps facilitate the the tracking, and ability to see all of these goals across the organization, so that it is transparent. What’s the purpose of transparency and of seeing and observing is that again, it’s kind of like walking into that space that we were talking about before, whether it be with the diplomats, or whether it be into your own organization, or whether it be into one of your beneficiaries lives, when you can look and see what people are thinking and working on. Sometimes it sparks an idea, or what it does, it says, Oh, I see how I’m working on that. But from this perspective, or maybe they’re not even thinking of, you know, maybe the person in Geneva is not necessarily thinking about the work on on women, you know, on women from the perspective that that people are in Vienna, because in Vienna, they’re working with UN ODC, the UN Office of drugs and crime and they’re more focused on the legal side of things. Geneva is more focused on the human rights side of things, but those two need to be talking together. I can see that both of them are doing this or maybe if they could see that both of them are working on a women’s issue they could be collaborating on and that happens even in the same organization, let alone outside our organizations. But this this specifically, is this whole process is useful at the personal level of the team. level, at the organizational level, whether you’re a small and medium business size, or whether your enterprise level, this kind of process is just now being adopted. Well, it may have been in place, but some of the software to do this is just being adopted by Apple. Now, Apple, Apple is a huge
company.
But they’re getting to the stage of where they’re wanting to make sure that everybody across the organization is utilizing their okrs. And I’m sure they’ll, they’ll adapt it and make it their own and all that sort of stuff. But they still need the ways to when you’re such a large enterprise, you do literally need software help to make it possible that you can go in and see what that find an interesting part of that organization and find out what they are doing. But because they’re all listed, then you can see you don’t have to find the person track them down, ask them what they’re working on, just you know, in very quickly, if you know that that’s of interest or concern, you can even do a search to find out what it is what part of the organization is working on this. And when it’s relevant when it’s important, either for collecting of data, or if it’s from making connections even within your own organization, you can see what is, you know, one of the top three to five issues for them at this time, or in the year. So it just facilitates incredible, incredible cross pollination, engagement discussion, opportunity to be aware of for and for the organization itself to become aligned. And as we know, when, when our everyday light. Again, the sun pours out updating dozens of billions of megawatts of power.
But you line up just a few
totally in sync,
specific frequencies of light,
and have them all pulsing right at the same time, that laser even run from, okay, maybe not quite a triple A battery, but probably something a little bit smaller than the sun can slice through diamond, whereas the sunlight cannot slice through diamond because it’s totally scattered all over the place. Now I’m grateful the sky, the sun is not slicing us into slicing and dicing us. But the point there is just that it just points out the power of focus, the power of alignment, and the potential of that. So when we are wanting to make an image, when we are wanting to ensure that our limited resources are limited, triple A battery resources can make the kind of impact that we want, that’s all the more reason why we do our limited resources need to be aligned to have that kind of impact.
So
the okrs that I’ve been mentioning, I just simply objectives and key results. So what it does, for example, on the team level, it just you know, you know you can stop with the team level and I recommend usually either to start at your personal level and test this out and start to you know, build a little okay on muscle so to speak. Otherwise, if you’ve got a team to work with, stop by setting your goals start and set, you know, review your annual goal. Okay, now we’re at the right at the beginning of October, we’ve got October, November, December, you’ve got a three month period to the end of this year. Make a quarterly goal. Maybe your timetable is a little different, and that’s fine, whatever whatever works but chunk it down so that it’s it’s not a year year is too long. You know, a month is probably too short for really achieving certain things and you want to be able to give yourself enough time to achieve notable things. You need to be able to track your goals in that cost of that month. But so make you know make quarterly goals. So what what do you want your team to achieve by the end of the year?
What do you want your
and the way
and and those goals in a way your quarterly goals should be milestones for your annual goals and your annual goals. should be milestones for perhaps some kind of a five year or you know, blue sky as they call them all moonshot goals or big, you know, hairy, aggressive goals, you know, your B hag, people name these things all different ways. But the point there is to have big bold goals. But make sure you then chunk it down, at least to annual. And as we could say, for most people who had a goal for 2020. But by February, March, it was blown apart
for a lot of people.
And that’s the pace at which things happen now. So, you know, we have to be ready to adapt and pivot. That’s just the nature of of our world. However, we still need to know I’m headed to P town, I am in I’m in Gloucester, Massachusetts, and my destination is province town, and I want to get there, okay, maybe you you hit a storm, right out in the middle of Massachusetts Bay, and you decide, oh, I’ve got to head for the closest piece of shore, where is the closest shoreline, and then you had that for Beeline there. But then still, later on, you’ll have to adapt it and still make your way towards pizza. So long term goals, your big, hairy, aggressive goals, your moon shot goals, your your, your blue sky, whatever it is that you want, make sure that you do have them. But when you’re setting up your objectives, and this is part of how you’re setting up your own, okay, ours are your objectives and key results. So in a way, it’s very simple, you’ve got your objective, for example, at the quarterly level, make sure that they’re short and inspirational. I mean, you’ve got to want to work towards your goals, if you turn it into, make sure I’ve done every boring report that I could ever not want to do.
Yeah.
If however you connect it to, you know, to, to what that allows you to do, so that it’s inspirational, make sure you collect all the reports for and this is where your your larger goals, your annual goals, or whatever come in, so that you maybe you’ve got an objective to make, you know, to make five really, really tight relationships with, you know, one of one of the, or a group of ambassadors at the UN. And so maybe one of you, one of your goals for the quarter could be to have, you know, to have had the report ready on all of the work that’s been done in Nigeria, and your other NGO contacts that you have connections with, so that when you go to the Nigerian ambassador, you can report on all of these things and be comprehensive and inclusive. And, you know, anyway, distill that down, you’ve got that in the back of your mind, but make it short and inspirational, so that you can meet the ambassador and and add him to your support group, you know, your, your, your, you know, one of your key supporters for the for the organization, whatever it is that make it so that it’s it’s short, identifiable, in terms of where you’re wanting to go. Now. When you’re in an organization, usually, you know, your enterprise, your your group, your team will make three to five fairly high level objectives, you know, beyond that, and again, this is not your to do list. These are your objectives. These are things that will help you get to your goals. And and for those of you who were in the the impact and influence course, we went through that whole process of setting up, you know, both measurable, quantitative and qualitative measures for for what we wanted to achieve. So we have to think in terms of what are our objectives, and this comes back to our mission statement, where, where are we going with, with our mission, so that I hope that’s clear enough. But at the quarterly level, you usually have three to five because you’re not just working on one thing, you’ve got a number of factors. So, for example, this last quarter, probably grace knee, you know, prep for the General Assembly, plus she was having to still do all kinds of other things. She had other areas of work, so they will probably, you know, make sure that you’ve you’ve got your internship program, trainers in place or whatever else. So you Got your other main areas, and maybe you had a goal to increase the number of interns for that training in this quarter, or to find new trainers for your, your your interns, I don’t know what they were. But they The point is you you have, you might have an that here, the operative thing is three to five
in each quarter set three to five objectives.
And yes, they should be ambitious. They shouldn’t be just, you know, they can be done, because that’s what you did last time. Challenge yourself a little, make it exciting. Make it you know, so that you have to think about whether or not you can make it or in the last minute, you said you were going to do it, what what, what of all stops you prepared to pull out in order to reach that slightly ambitious, challenging goal, let’s really make it happen. And, of course, choosing the right objectives. And this here, again, can only be understood, you can only know that it’s a write objective, if you’ve got some clarity around your mission, and your purpose. And And ideally, again, this is your x factor coming into the interplay in here, when you’re clear about your objectives. And it shouldn’t be an objective that you could do. It should be an objective that really lines up and helps you do what needs to be done so that you can zero in on that sweet spot. I’ll be right X Factor. And so this is part of the way all of these things interplay. The more you’re clear on your X Factor, the more your objectives and key results can help you hone in. And so and and focus and amplify your impact. So your objectives and your key results. Basically, the simple sentence that helps you structure this the template for how you figure out how to set up how do i do my objectives and key results. And you say the sentence is, and you just have to finish the sentence, I will
add another three free
either, you know, three solid ambassadors to my, my support team, my ambassadorial support team, if that happened to be an objective, you had to one of your larger goals for the year or for your five years. As met as measured by an I will increase my number of ambassadors as measured by n, it could be three or it could be five, and you could be more specific to say they are maybe they’re just prospects at this stage, or maybe you’ve secured them, but you identify exactly what you mean. So that you know when you’ve reached the goal, or not. So you don’t for example, just say, I’m going to meet more ambassadors. Well, that’s nice. And I’m just using a grace, I don’t mean to be I’m not pulling your calling you out at all. It’s just an easy, you’re up there and I and you’re up there on my screen. And and it’s just an easy kind of topic that makes an example that’s easy to measure. So I will I will increase my number of ambassadorial supporters
by
and and if you call ambassadorial supporters or you could say add them to my ambassadors Working Group on the girl child, just say because they’re just some things i’ve i’ve heard I’m not necessarily saying this is a good thing to do at all. I haven’t thought about it. The context is important here. But for that to answer specifically that I will I will increase the number of ambassadors or diplomats working on my working group on Girl by three or I will meet a I will get a new list of potential ambassadors diplomats who can potentially be on the on the girls working group by 10. The point is you make it clear what it is, and have some kind of measure way to measure what it is that you’re doing. And of course, yes, it should be aligned with your goals. And, and you should be able to get to the end of these three months, the end of December and say, Well, I got 90% of the way there, or I totally lost track of that, and I didn’t do it. Now, you get to the end of the three months, and you just say that was what happened, you didn’t do anything towards it, you have to stop and think well, either. That goal was not at all important to what I’m doing. Or I totally messed up in terms of putting onto my schedule, or making sure if this is a top priority, and you totally didn’t get anywhere on it, you know that there’s a problem there.
Whereas you could have gone those three months and not another, there was a problem there.
So I will objective as measured by your key results. And those key results for each objective can be a number of key results or a clarifying description of what those key results are. And ideally, if the objective is kind of big enough, you’ll have probably at least three ways to triangulate the way you would actually achieve that. Because you might want to also acknowledge that, and that and each of those diplomats are thrilled, really excited to be working on this. They’re not just being dragged, you know, and how do you make them excited. There are some very interesting ways to get these guys to be excited about stuff. But I’ll say that so that’s, that’s too specific about the UN. And and I’ll leave that for another time. But there really are ways to get get these people involved and engaged and happy to be there. But the point is, this is where the triangulation piece comes in to, you often need different ways to assess how well you do. And they can be quantitative, qualitative, and things that are important to you and to your mission. So you know, it could be an increased number of beneficiaries, it could be increased number of board members, it could be an increased number. And then you don’t just say more board members, you say, I want to get by December, I want to have at least one new board member and two other board members who were pretty okay to be on the board. But I want to get them fully ready, I want to take them on that that board member journey to the point where they are fully engaged and on fire for our organization. And then you can tease that out, you can explain it in your own what mitt, what’s meaningful to you. And you could have additional ways that you would measure that. But the main point is that you do have your different ways. So make sure that part of what this is doing is making your goals tangible. So that when you wake up on the first of January, after you’ve finished that quarter, you wake up, and you can see you’ve got the board member that we I’ve got one new board member and I’ve got to have the wrong fire and I can’t keep them I can’t keep them quiet anymore. They keep calling me with ideas, then driving me nuts, new wonderful problem. But But the point is, by January 1, you know that you’ve achieved that goal. Now, if it was pretty easy to achieve that goal, you know that in the next quarter, what are you going to do? You’re going to up that goal just a little little because it wasn’t maybe ambitious enough. So what’s this doing? This is multiplying this is amplifying your the potential. Now of course, you know you you have to add in there a little bit of thinking about it and you got to analyze it and you’ve got to decide whether maybe you’ve got enough board members. Okay, so now we move on to the next phase of that planning.
So
these again, I’ve kind of already been going over this but the key results of the deliverables that you defined for objective, and each objective will have something that is very, very clear and specific about it. So that an all of this is so that you can measure your progress towards achieving that goal. And each objective should have those two to five key results. And the key results here are those what I call also the triangulation, those bits of information that allow you to triangulate your success, whether you’ve reached that waypoint that that milestone on your journey or not, and they need to be measurable, not just necessarily, in terms of numbers, but it could be, as I said, measurable in terms of, to the point where these people are just so on fire, that they are totally committed, as distinct from still being a board member, but you have to drag them to every board meeting and you’re not even certain that they’re going to show up. So that is what you you translate it into a measurable so that, you know, when you have been successful with that board member, even though it’s not a it, you can’t just put it on maybe you could say on a scale of one to 10 that board members committed. And so you could scale that board member at at least an eight to 10 that would be another way of giving it a number. But ideally, you also have some of those other more, you know, experiential kinds of of ways of assessing whether that result has been achieved.
So, again, we say I will,
and objective, as measured by I will, you know, reach this objective as measured by the key results. And then and then the key results have those number of you know, a number of key results for each objective. So, you know, these were just some of the examples that I use during the class, I just gave a few more as we were talking through this. And, and then at the end of that, that quarter, when you review now going back to this planning, executing, engaging and learning, so the planning begins at the end of each month with your setting of your goals, a clock costs throughout, throughout that quarter, you’re going to be executing different aspects of that work all along the way. The engagement piece comes in when ideally, when you’re working on teams, or with a group of people, at least at a weekly level, you kind of have a check in this is the engagement piece. And you find out from those on your on your team and each, you have your team, okay. And then each person on that team has though they’re okay as for those objectives, the team objectives for example. So, you race in the in the, the UN Office, my might if you’ve got a team that’s working on intern say, I don’t know but you might have those who do the training you may have your trainers. So they would be responsible for something different in this quarter than you would be in the UN Office although your objectives together would be similar to upgrade your your your intern experience or whatever it is. So that part of this is you engage with the relevant parties. And each each objective each quarterly objective will have you know, different different people can get pulled into those objectives. It doesn’t it’s not like every team member is has you know is involved in every okay are Can you Does that make sense? So again, all of this is just that it’s according to the goals and the objectives you have your teams and those that you work with. But you always you know, but you have your weekly check in on that issue on that particular objective. You do a quick you know, it’s just like your stand up meetings that just short you don’t sit down and grab your coffee and and you know talk over what happened last weekend and then eventually get to the you just it’s just a check in you have you and it can be done easily on zoom or wherever you find out what they did during the week towards their goals. If they’re having any challenges. Can anybody help one another with that the goals reasonable or not recent Double, where is it going with all of this? You know, just so that you can keep that on track. And then if, if you realize you couldn’t even realize mid mid quarter, but either the objective was too hard to reach, or too small. So all of this is intuitive. But the the, the perspective behind it is always to challenge yourself always to have team stretching. And so that when and and you couldn’t have urgent, you know, for example, in March, when COVID kind of started to jump in, that would have been a prime time to have, you know, a, an emergency meeting for the organization to stop men and set up thinking about how are we going to be dealing with it’s going to be changing week at a time. But even their shell, we have, you know, a team that is working on what are we going to be doing is this kind of stuff hits, hits the fan, it’s going to change our plans for international conferences, it’s going to change the plans for how we meet and work with our volunteers. whatever topic, it might be, you can form your group, set up your objectives of the group, and then have these this kind of iterative process ongoing.
Does anybody have any questions on on these okrs at this time, it in a way, it’s so very, very simple. But in a way, this is so very, very powerful. And part of it is just simply getting comfortable with it, learning how to write your okrs get good at that. I’m part of when I asked you, for example, yesterday, to start working on your x factors, you know, this whole process of distilling down to a one sentence that is that is tangible, and yet and yet inspirational. And all that sort of stuff is part of this ongoing process that we need to get good at. Can I just take one moment, I’ve got an interesting situation that happens at about this time, every day, the sun comes through a window that I can’t pull the blinds down on. It hits my computer heats it up, and then my computer starts to go wonky. I need to put a sweatshirt on my
computer, so it doesn’t overheat. Hold on.
It’s actually a sweatshirt and a fan. I put the mine here, kind of interesting situation. But it is what it is.
It’s a really nice window.
It’s just that it’s high.
And it’s
just this time of the year when the sun comes down to a certain light. I haven’t lived in this house for very long. And we won’t be here after January, we have to move again. But um, but yeah, this time of the year, the sun comes in and my computer starts to go wonky. I guess computers don’t like they’re not sun worshipers. Okay, so questions about this. And then I’m going to ask you to set some, again to try to set some since we’re at the beginning of October, some quarterly goals for yourself, personally, and it could be and because and just one one objective. So I’m going to ask you to set a personal goal objective in relation to your X factor. So that it’s aligned with you know, that element that we worked on yesterday. Does anybody have any questions? Or do you want I can just put up those the objectives and key results? The very simple
questions.
I mean, the question is very, very simple. I will objective as measured by and have, I’m going to just ask you to do one objective and but to have a number of key results, how you would measure the results 2345 of those Any questions before you get going otherwise? I want you to practice writing your own objectives and key results aligned with your X factor for yourself to be completed by December 31 2020.
Okay, I’ll give you
I’ll give you three minutes to work on this. And
there we go.
About 30 seconds.
Do you want more time or Is that good?
Okay, enough time or do you want one more time? Okay, a little bit more time, Daniela Yeah. Okay, so I’ll give you another two minutes. It’s good to sit with this for a bit.
Okay,
so who would like to go first?
anybody like to share their okrs forward? December 31 2020 of this wonderful, exciting, different new different year. By the way, I was thinking that January 1, I might send an email to each one of you
and say hey
how did your How did that one objective that we went over during change leaders master plan live? How did you go about that? That’s that’s the accountability part Daniella. I will check in with you guys on on January 1, I’ll send you an email. And I hope you will respond to me. And you can just say Thumbs up, thumbs down? Ah, oh, yeah, actually, it was amazing. Or you know. And I can say Happy New Year. So there you go. That’s accountability. So that this is not just an exercise, but it’s something that you work on. So any anybody want to share what they’ve what they wrote?
Okay, one of the things I wrote down that I would hold one first physician slash awareness program to
commemorate the cancer
awareness month.
And the other one is that would increase the number of training programs 3343 printing programs between by December 31 on case management for our volunteers,
did you identify when you say increases that by like 10% or two time you know,
can you give it an October hold it that movie that we hold to hold three programs?
Got it? Got it? Yeah, very good. Because then when you get the at the end, if you would just said increase without adding the number then then one would have been okay 10 would have been okay. But if you had said three and you really do three, then you can send up the fireworks.
Very good at funny Thank you.
And you’ll know when you get there, you’ll know when you when you do that you’ll have either done an event or not. And and you’ll have either increased your number of those training programs by three or not. And then you can assess whether, you know as you go through the month you’ll be able to see Well that was a good idea but three is going to be just about impossible given what’s what’s going on on the streets of Ohio. Now, because of what’s going to happen next month, but you know, but the point is, without those goals, you’re not even just going to have you’re not even going to have those focus the chances are, you’re not going to have that clarity in that focus, and therefore you won’t do it. Fantastic. I will I, what I would like each of you to do is maybe type into the, into the the chat, okay, your goals, the goals, that each one of you have a specific goal so that then when I come back to you at the end of the year, I’m reminded about your objectives and key results and then I’ll be able to celebrate with you.
Also, by the way,
I’m I’m
James is letting me know, and I hope you don’t mind me sharing it with everybody, James, I suspect that it’s not a problem. But his his his saying his goal is to develop a program that will empower 200 highly at risk you young people with skills, knowledge and confidence to advance their rights and us to take part in decision making in five rural areas within the Abuja Municipal Council. Within the five Anyway, you can everybody can see that within the that those areas. So, James, when you have that program developed, we you have held that program by that time, will you have held a at least a beta program for that? Will you have held the program for that? Or will you have just developed the program and have set a date for holding the program? Can you see how there are ways to nail down more specifically your objectives. So you know more precisely what you’re doing. So if you get a chance, hope the program to stop by January 2021. Great, because so then by the end of December, you are prepared so that you can start your program in January 2021. So that’s the way James would write that, okay, are more precisely. Now then as you go forward, James, what you would also need to do is to clarify at each of those, those levels when you say empower, so 200, highly at risk fuse, the 200 number is fantastic. When you say empower, that’s where you it’s good to stop and and whole and clarify what empower means as measurable. Because empowering somebody is, that’s that’s a, an an ad, an advocacy appeal. for accomplishing a goal, it might be more like train young people with a speaking skills center centered around their human rights. And the knowledge they need is to understand more about the human rights charter. And so that they know, they have, you know, the the support, you know, the moral support, sort of, of the United Nations behind them. So when you write goals, it’s really important to, to bring them down to very, very specific, measurable results. So that you know, yes, the skill that they gained is they could articulate their right, their rights better, that they had the confidence to articulate that. And they knew that they had the, the support of the United Nations because this was in the the, the charter, the charter, the Human Rights charter. So you get very specific in in the goals that you you set. So I hope that’s helpful, James
Okay, someone else, thank you for finding me.
So, my main goal, my objective is to have a fully built and constituted company.
And the
key results that I considered is to have a registered brand. Mm hmm. To have all the paperwork done to like actually exist in the eyes of the law. And to have a fully working functioning web page. And by the by December 31, two have provided my service at least once.
Cool, they’re all measurable.
And I mean, I skipped one having least two clients.
antastic we will, we will see all of that now. Had you had that goal before this weekend?
A Sunday. He had some somehow in the back of my head, but not like, written like grounded and written down and structured. But I like the company, the company is a project that I’m working on. And I have no problem sharing is, it’s okay. It’s, I’m, I’m associated with a friend. I studied entertainment, and he is an environmental engineer. So we’re creating a sustainable, again, sustainable consulting company focused on events to offset their carbon footprint. Hmm. Cool. So yeah, we’re working on that. And we want to, even though there’s not much entertainment happening in Mexico, there are a lot of like driving sort of events, right. And we want to take advantage of that, because we realized that most part of the carbon footprint comes from the course and transportation. So we’ve we can take advantage of events that have like a very exact number of cars, and don’t have to estimate we can provide more exact result, like more accurate results. So we’re working on that. And we would like to start functioning before
December. Anyway, oh, this just is by the time now that you’ve got this written down, and you’ve got dates associated?
Um, I actually thought to happen.
Yeah, we, we have been trying to work on dates. But since a lot of things don’t really depend completely on us, we haven’t been able to, like, be very, like, for example, we wanted to have a brand registered by the end of last month, and we got the, like the logos, then we like last night, like the proposals for the different logos. So we’re trying, we’re making an effort.
Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. And just on that, I don’t know, an I don’t know the how tos of this. I’m just aware that for example, a whole nother venue for online exposure of entertainment, and that is through Facebook’s Oculus, the VR space. You might want to explore that sometime. If you’re not driving into places if the stuff lasts a little longer. And people don’t drive into places.
It’s just, it’s just another venue.
And how it works. Just people all over the world, they have access to the VR headset, and they fold events. Now how that plays out at the stage. It’s probably still more promotional level for Oculus slash facebook, facebook, but that’s another arena you might want to explore just as a because not everybody will be working in that space yet. Yeah.
And in Mexico, though, they have started to try like constraining concerts and plays and musicals. And it’s gotten like a very divided feedback. Like people either or Like really enjoy it and appreciate it or people like refused to, like even. Right. Oh, it’s it’s, it’s been a weird transition.
Yeah. And I think that’s Yeah, because you’ve got people used to doing things one way and other people who are willing to explore other ways. So yeah. And that’s, they’re just decision points for what you do. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you anyway, so that’s going to be exciting to hear, hear how all of that goes. In the next three months. Thank you Daniela.
Big steps.
Okay, so, um, what I thought about my main objective will be for these following months, will be, I would like to have the foundations of my social project by the summer. So some of the results I think I should achieve in order to fulfill this objective will be to have a defined business plan to form the team that will be leading the initiative, and to have a well defined value proposition.
Wonderful.
Very good. Yeah, you get your place, and you know, what you’re working on and the value of what you’re doing?
Yes, yeah, I think I think that’s the most important thing that you get to, to really have something that well, to have an objective and to have people that will be working with you, um, that really believes in what you’re doing. So I think that must be like the first part, in order to start thinking on other objectives. Like, once you have started working on the on the on the project. And right now, I might have like, a lot of ideas, and some friends and colleagues that are interested in working on it, but we haven’t settled down everything. So I think that’s the first thing we should do in order to start thinking on how are we going to execute it.
And one of the as you’re speaking, one of the things that, I realized that I maybe had not said it is that having these key objectives, you know, these three to five main objectives for the quarter, doesn’t mean you don’t have other things going on, or that you’re not working on other things at all. But the point of having these key objectives is for you to have identified one of the core things, the most important, most essential, most strategic things to do first, in order to pursue your goals. So you know if other things happen to get developed along the line, because you’ve got the opportunity and the time, and it’s and you need to be doing them as well. That’s fantastic and wonderful. This is not saying don’t do anything else other than these objectives. And just want to make that clear that these objectives help anchor and create that, you know, that core framework for what you are doing. So that if you’ve got a choice between working on your core objective or working on something else, and you’ve only got a certain amount of time left, you can be disciplined enough to work on your core objective, even if it’s not the most fun thing to do, right at this moment, it’s not the most fun thing to go and deal with all the legal pieces or you know, put in all your your you know, your costs and expenses and come up with your budget or whatever, whatever else that might not be quite as sexy and is fun isn’t as exciting as actually speaking to other entertainers or some of your potential key players. According to which, you know, whoever’s objective you’re looking at, but these call for you know, that you have decided these are the most important these are your strategic ones for this quarter at this time, in order for you to get towards your goals and objectives of having the greatest impact. So that they give you those that, you know, litmus test all the way along the line that you can say, Okay, I feel like doing this today, but maybe not, maybe I’d really been at, you know, fulfilling this key objective. And you can help guide you could say, Hey, you know, colleague, friend, partner. We really need to get this done by this time, how is your piece coming along, and you do that, especially in the context if you’re in larger groups, have your check in each week. So it’s a way to get Keep them you have when you’ve got this and your colleague partner, team members also have this clearly that you’ve made this agreement that this is your this is your objective here, we just did it, you’re just doing this, but in your business environment, then you will set, you know, you would then go and have this conversation with your key partner and say, okay, is this this is really, you know, a fine objective. So, for example, Daniela could come back to me on January 1, and say, Well, this was my goal, my, my partner actually decided that we needed to get this done by the end of October. So this is what we did. Or they could say, well, actually, you know, they got sick, and they Grandma, whatever, and they decided that they couldn’t get this done. And so we changed our goals or whatever. So when you’re working with a team, you You of course, have to have team, okay, ours, and then yours fit your specific role and responsibility fit within that. But yeah, they’re all and they’re always these other things going on, as well. And these are your strategic
objectives
that you set. Cool.
Wonderful.
Um, for me, as usual, is struggled. But um,
that’s good.
Listen with you’re wrestling with the the issue? Yeah.
Yeah.
So I guess like this is, I don’t know if this is a personal goal, because I don’t really know if I have the capacity to own it completely. Right. It’s contingent, others. But what’s coming up is I will develop a cohesive message, message and strategy across the UN offices. For this quarter, I mean, or plan, maybe my strategy is to Yeah, as measured by and interviewing the ibps. And also office staff, across the three offices in their perspectives and engaging the UN team.
In this conversation,
developing a working group to consolidate findings of a, the founder of our a, the co founder of our organization just came out with a memoir earlier this month, and so a non year. And so we’ve been doing a study group, across the EU in offices to kind of reflect on the key points and key messages that are coming out. So the next step there would be to create a working group from that to kind of more like develop actual positions based upon what was discussed and what came out from that. And then the third thing is setting.
Sorry, can you read my own writing?
Students role?
Oh, and so like one of those like ideas, sub ideas under that idea would be kind of like setting up a project for to develop position point. Position points for each of the areas of focus of our un offices at the United Nations, and then engaging the UN offices, in this kind of conversation, to see if we can have a strategy session where like, we discussed the peels, peel and okrs. And then based upon that frame, discuss the seven year plan that was just submitted, um, and see what we can do. Yeah.
Wonderful. Anyway, I think the key thing there is you by you’ve identified your objective, you’ve, you’ve got your main key results. As you go through and engage this, it’ll give you the feedback that you need to see how in the next quarter, you need to adjust your planning. And you may come back and say, Okay, well, this was the plan, but I realized I actually need to engage some other stakeholders in the conversation perhaps in order to see this all the way through. Or maybe, maybe everything will go according to that. And just the fact that you’ve mapped it out, you’ve made the plan and you start working on it, you’ll begin to initiate a process that otherwise would have remained muddy.
Cool,
very good. So, um, struggle is good. So if you would put that If, again, great, great. So I have now got that from everybody so that now when I follow up January 1, I’m going to say, Hey, hey, funny. Did you do that? Okay, so it’s about time for lunch now for those of us who are about to have lunch. So then after lunch, we’re going to go I’ve got some other things for us to do. And including, I think we’re going to do this we’ll have names right, right at 1130 my time. Whatever, half half an hour is for you guys. Okay. So we’ll see you back soon at the half hour.
Thank you very much, everybody.
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Thank you. It’s funny, no matter. Yeah. Developing that clarity about who your target audience is, is the other piece, the other side of the coin. It’s not just what you can provide, but it’s who can you speak to?
Who is your ideal person that you want to work with? Given that the chances are, you’re not going to, at least in this year, save every human being on the face of the planet? in one fell swoop.
And that we need to start somewhere, and then expand and improve, and scale up and all that sort of stuff. Do you begin by speaking to the most difficult ones who don’t even understand or get anything that you’re talking about? Or do speak to ones who really are aligned with you? And that’s obvious. But when you get down to, you know, even as you were working on your, your simple fact of pitch yesterday? You I think you’d began to see how, yeah, you’ve kind of got an idea in your mind. But then how do you narrow them down? Because and how do you find them? And what is it in that their experience that you can speak to that, that that can catch their attention? What are their their pain points that you can solve? Not just what are their pain points? But what are their pain points that you can solve in a unique way? And are you clear about your uniqueness?
Not just in your head.
But can you then turn it into words, that then when you speak to somebody, they get it? And again, that’s where testing it out with people. And by having your sentence or your variety of sentences that you can say, when you engage people when they say, what is it that you do? And you respond, you can see through through their responses if you know, they’re pretty much the right group, right person, you can see by their response, where they go, do they lean in? Do they say, yeah, yeah. Tell me more? Are you getting that kind of response? When they are? What you think is your target market? If you are you starting to get the words down. And all of these things become critical as you begin your outreach. Because your outreach, I don’t care whether you’re at the UN, whether you’re a nonprofit, whether you’re a for profit, whatever, you are going to be involved in outreach and marketing, in sales, you’re selling ideas, you’re selling concepts you’re selling, you’re selling something you’re selling yourself. And, and I don’t you’d like to use the term selling because I, you know, because it has, it’s so loaded with all kinds of other things. But what you’re working to do is to engage with others so that you can be involved in their life and help change their life. As a social entrepreneur, as a social change leader, and that process of communications of outreach, and engagement. People, you know, in the business world have given up those simple names. But in the end, it’s person to person relationships, it’s communicating ideas, it’s communicating who you are. But as we’ve gone through, it’s helping people have that experience that feeling when they are around you.
So how do you begin that process?
And how do you start to communicate to them that you have something that is unique? And that is what they’re looking for? And if that’s something if the person in front of you is looking for that, then you’re being able to help them with that. That is a match made in heaven,
so to speak.
That’s what business
enterprise entrepreneurial ism. No, that’s how we engage and work and connect. And really help get out there and make a difference in the world. It’s through these very practical ways of living and working and doing our Business Outreach of connection. And then of bringing people on that journey on that stakeholder journey. So the master plan as I have, and it’s, it’s just a pretty simple in a way. But what I’m going to do is I’m going to drop what I have in, in the, you know, and I put at the top of my page, I put at the top of my page, I’m just going to tell you, and then I’m going to, then I’m going to take a minute to drop it into the page, then what I want you to do, as I’m going to give you just a really short space of time,
I still want to come back around to our stakeholders again. And then I will also drop into the stakeholder into the thing I’ll drop the masterplan in. And then I’ll drop in that stakeholder journey document. Do you remember Grayson? afonya was lots lots of words and arrows on it and whatever else, but that’s just informational. But then what I what I, what I want you to do, let me let me take a couple minutes to give these to you. And then I’ll tell you what I want you to do. So give me a moment, he will like pull up these documents
on the pager.
And this that I will
save that I will put this file
is it
it comes the one pager Next I have to find where I hid the other file.
Didn’t really hide it. It’s just I’ve got so many files.
Okay, I might have to go into the other area, I can’t remember the name of that fast.
Ha, I’m going to have to take a moment to find that other. So while you Okay, so you’ve got that document, you’re able to get the one pager right? So that’s just a way of saying, okay, here, here are most some of the most essential things right on one page, and I put at the top, you know that of course, you got to have all these other things. Part of your responsibility is to have the highest quality business to provide exceptional service to always deliver more than you could ever expect to get from people so that you know that your standards are immaculate, you you do more, rather than less. You don’t you don’t give people you know, just a little bit, you give them more. And I you know, I hope that that that has been your experience with me, but I’ve given you that’s what I want you I want you to have that experience. So this is a lot for what you know for what, what you put in. That’s my goal and objective. But what I want you to spend three minutes No, I think you only probably need about one to two minutes. And I’ll get you going on that. I want you to write out your list of stakeholders. Just brainstorm all your stakeholders that you have. And then I want you to prioritize them just put 1234 maybe some of them are about equal priority, but then to prioritize hire them just on and then drop that list. You know, so if you if you, you know, on a piece of paper or in a text document just put, you know, maybe board members at your number one I don’t know and put parentheses one. Once you’ve got that little list, just drop it in the in the chat box. And I’ll give you a couple of minutes to do that you might need to think of them and then to prioritize, and I’ll look for that other document
Okay,
Turn off that music.
I’m still just trying to turn this into a PDF. Let me see where I’m going to send that as Save as a PDF, where I’m going to put that just there we go for now. And here comes that, I think that that document is going to come right now. From
there we go.
So there’s a PDF in the in the chat now. So Did everybody get a list of their stakeholders and prioritized?
icons can’t see any in the chat?
What do you want to just read them out to me?
Anybody got their stakeholders? Did you want to? Yeah.
Yeah.
I,
I put as my, my stakeholders. My possible. It was like very, very detailed, but in general, one plus my possible clients, my potential clients, my allies,
allies, allies in terms of
foundation seller, maybe residue? How do you like a company that handles trash correctly and recycling? And, yeah, and local, local companies like, cool products. Then I also put my like, providers, providers of service, like people that work for me, like someone who does my social media or my accounting,
and like, they would be more your, your team members in your organization?
Yeah, in a way. But in the I, in my mind, it was very obvious to put my potential customers first. But when I wrote them down, I put my allies first. Hmm, I prioritize them, because, like, I can keep finding new customers, but I need my allies in order to work to function properly. So it was first my allies, then my clients, then my team, and then my mentors. Great.
I’m Grace. I’m just going around around the screen here. Sure.
Um, I put
quite a few I don’t really know how to prioritize them, because they’re all pretty high priority. Um,
but
it’s the co founders of dojo API.
The founders group, basically, the co founders of dove GPI have a number of different NGOs in which, which they’ve co founded, three of which are two of which are un in consultative status with the United Nations, and one is getting their consultative status right now.
Amongst other organizations, so all of those group that’s the founders group.
The third is the dovish epi board of directors. Fourth is interns and volunteers. Fifth is the UN system and NGO working groups like context their next is the W jPi, regional, national and local local chapters, beneficiaries and context.
Then donors, then UN Office stuff.
Okay, so then, and you in terms of what you would consider your, your priority, your priority stakeholder group at the moment just in terms of say, you know, picking, for example, your seven year plan who would just pick one, and you know, this is not absolute and this is not, you know, you’re not making any cosmic decisions here. It’s just for the next exercise that I want you to think Sure. So I’m just trying to it’s good just to pick one that’s practical for you to work with that something that you might want to be starting to think about anyway.
Okay, well, that’s un office staff just because that’s the one that I have.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So start there. You know, many, many times, especially when you’re you’re studying to get your, your hands around this stuff, it’s good to start with something that you don’t, you know, biting off too much, or all in one go. So, it’s good to start by practicing with the, you know, maybe some of the easier places where you’re going to have to be doing something anyway. And where it’s good to get started and beginning to to exercise these muscles a little bit. Yeah.
Okay, Fernanda.
Okay, for me, um, first, I wrote down my team members, then john women,
social programs for women are students,
companies and foundations.
And finally, local activists.
Oh, very good. So you’ve identified those. And then you know, as as you move through, as each of you move through and focus on their, their, like your general groups, each of you have general groups. And then like, in even community organizations, and things like that, then you’ll start in, according to your X Factor, you’ll start and focus in on in terms of those who are local community actors, which ones are the which ones are the ones that you go to outreach first. So then that becomes in terms of your, the value of doing the work with your local community actors. That’s where you can think down the road, where do I want to build my social capital at the community level, that’s not the personal level, it’s not the one on one kind of customer or beneficiary level. But then that’s where, you know, you’re building out your app, you know, one of those onion cells, you’re building out your levels of impact and influence, then you will get to the stage of thinking about your, your, your social capital, and who you want to connect with, and work with and partner with. But yes, it’s not the first place you usually begin with, but you will get there. And then you’ll start, once you get into that area, then you start to get strategic about who you stopped and spend your time with there. And again, that’s where you naturally will tend to align you’re you’re expected those, either that can augment your work uniquely, that you know that in your work, you oftentimes need this kind of other partner with you to have more impact when you go to, for example, a, you know, a higher level governmental later, if you’re trying to make a change in social policy of some kind, then you’ll need to get you then you look for slightly different partners than you would if you’re looking to do a common program together maybe or even some programs, you want to have that you don’t want to have somebody doing exactly the same thing as you or you don’t mind doing exactly the same thing as you won’t be exactly the same but close enough. But that can augment what you’re doing. So you begin to look at all of your your stakeholders that way.
Thank you any funny.
Okay.
I work you’re probably my coordinators and volunteers, because they’re the ones who were Yep. functions. Then the beneficiaries, which are the local communities that involve the youth, women, and also the children, basically. Then down there, we have directors, or members and partner or collaborating partners. And after that, we have some program sponsors. The reason donors and program sponsors, stays and at least if we do have the coordinators, we can pretty much do some of the things we can do with what we have, why we’re seeking on them. You can start funding for those who may not be able to accomplish those programs while we were responding. So
that was pretty much the dragon factor.
Good so now that You’ve, what I want each one of you to do now in the next three minutes is to pick, pick that one, one stakeholder, then I want you to think about the journey that a stakeholder takes from when they first encounter your organization. Just say they first encounter you and in theory, they, you know, you’ve said something like, I help young women find their their real value so that they can go out into the, you know, into their lives and careers to emboldened empowered and and enriched and with the courage to make the change. And well, I don’t know what it is that you’re that you want to do. But so you come across a person who is interested, I want you to pay him think about how would you? What parts of your organization? What programs do you have? What programs might you not have that might you you might need, and they couldn’t be as simple as they may not be a program that might be a discussion that you need to have with somebody that would help them see, number one, but that you do have a solution to their need their interest, their curiosity? What kind of a discussion or a program or content would they need to be then exposed to, to see that your approach is unique enough, differentiated enough from others, that they would choose you over another organization, another women’s organization, another company that helps promote, you know, offsets the carbon footprints of the entertainment industry, I don’t know whether there is anybody else out there, that may be your one key differentiating factor. And you’re going to have to have be able to make sure that that those that the entertainers that you’re helping to promote and work with, is still also get the other exposure that that they want? And then what would be the kind of what kind of
call to action would you give them?
These are actually really big questions and to give you three minutes is unfair. But you know, I wanted you to just even take for a moment, a little bit of a thought about how would you move them from encountering you? along that journey and path to recognizing that, Oh, you are an organization, a person organization that I might be interested in? To? Oh, you’ve got some really neat stuff that I haven’t seen anywhere else. So what are some of those things? Oh, what are you doing in your programs to invite them to decide to join you?
Are you asking them to join you?
And then what kind of an experience would they need to have to become an all in behind you an all in supporter of your organization. Because whether you think about it or not, that’s the journey that a person
is going to have to take
in order to come from not knowing you to being your rate, you know, your absolute supporting committed person. So stop to think about these. This is like mapping out the milestones of the stakeholder journey, that you will be taking them through one way or another. And if you’re not doing it intentionally, then if you haven’t set it up intentionally, maybe you’ve already got systems in place that effectively do that.
Maybe
but if not, and they might be as simple as you know, this first night of the month we have this briefing on what the you know what what we do and you know, a mixer that That has, you know, people get exposed to the kinds of work that we do. And then on the second week of the month, you have something where for those people who are more interested in in Grace’s case, and you know, in working at the UN and how you can get them involved as, as interns, or as involved in committees, and then how they would then go through the process of becoming even more in depth trained about the UN, so they could become a real advocate for your organization, in that environment, to where you know, so you can see how you actually need to have a progression for them in place. This is part of your responsibility for people in your business, this is part of your business responsibility for as they walk through this, you can help them be you can help them as individuals, you can help with your accountability to them as participants in that journey. But your responsibility in the beginning is to at least have a pathway for them to travel to becoming committed supporters of your organization. So I’ll give you a few minutes, because this is your way not going to have it all knocked out knocked down. But and there are many pieces to all of this. And to do this well. And being able to do it in this time of COVID to do this kind of stuff online isn’t is a different way of somehow doing this. And that’s a possibility too. But at least begin by thinking about what are some of those milestones in the journey from interested to committed?
Sorry about
the background music.
That PDF file of the stakeholder journey maybe useful just to help help you think this through
Three minutes are about up, do you want more time? Are you good for this?
figured it all out
more time Are you good?
Okay, so
could you see an arc in your your, the line that you can take people through? Could you identify key points that that event journey for that particular stakeholder group key either information key understanding that they would need key moments where events were or opportunities where they would be given the the opportunity to make a choice about participating.
Just any kind of feedback on on this as an as a, as an a thought experiment as a way for you to think something through. Easy difficult.
Um, okay, well, I think
that’s right, peruse through the whole thing trying to see why, what makes us unique, why would people want to join our program and what sets us apart from the others. And with a little knowledge you have, having looked at the involvement of both civil society organizations and NGOs in Nigeria, and in other parts of Africa, basically, they come in with a fire with a grid approach of, Okay, let’s put out the fire. Most of them pension or interest is to call it data, actually to improve on the experiences. So they give people this notion that an NGO comes in to bring out some fish, but not actually to teach them how to fish and look at them as charity cases is not based on what they want is based on what the NGO is offering makes us unique is we are basically focused on what the people need them want, and meet them where they are, help them to get from where they are, to where they want to be giving them the tools and the resources to get there. Not necessarily solving the problems for them, but giving them the tools to solve their own problems. And it’s individualized, done with dignity not because the charity case, for example, the young man who has a physical challenge and had the wheelchair, basically what he wanted was a comfortable wheelchair. Pretty much. However, there are other things to what the human need, we have to meet him where he is now. So we’re following up on him have talked to a coordinator to go back and visit with him, find out exactly what he wants that would help him if tomorrow the wheelchair is broken that he has, he’ll be able to afford to repay it, rather than having to wait for somebody where he doesn’t know where they will come from to come in. And if that person doesn’t come then he still suffers that consequence. So is now I share with them. He’s not a charity case. He has the dignity he has a right. He has to be shown respect and love. So we’re not trying to solve his problem because we have sympathy for him or because we have is just because we have self respect for him and also to maintain his dignity. So how are we going to extend his dignity is by giving them the tools To be able to afford the repairs next time. So you wouldn’t have to wait for somebody and other people do that. So that’s the uniqueness of our program that others don’t bring into the OTA. Now, the other aspect,
one moment. So then one of the milestones there that you’re talking about in this journey, is, you’re, um, you’re the person who is there working with this young man in the wheelchair, that he is, he is actually going in there and finding out from him, not just the obvious thing of new wheelchair, but what I you know, how can you? What are some of the ways that he could even tap into the his, his community resources? Or even is it just even the fact that you’re having you’re a volunteer coordinator, have this kind of discussion with that young man, rather than just, oh, you need a wheelchair? Here it is by? So So you’ve got kind of two types of potential milestones, there’s one is that you have a more meaningful in depth conversation with the person to find out what they really want beyond the wheelchair, and, and what and what other resources are there in his community that he might not have even thought about?
Right? Yes, so that we can point him to the resources and tap that resource without being a part of the group that they can advocate and try to change policies, and all those things, though, of the local resources that are there that nobody he doesn’t know about, because sees no accident, bring in contact with him. So that’s what makes our program organization because it’s based on human capital is not based on collecting data, right? All those things. So it’s like, we have a sustainable plan, consistent, you know, maybe a one year two years plan to follow and also see through, it’s not okay, well, we got is gone, we’ve got our data, you have X amount of people who are suffering from these, and then we’ll move to the next thing. And then, you know, again, also we’re trying to bring some kind of credibility, and dignity and respect for CSOs and NGOs. Also, because the culture of CSOs and NGOs, the reputation is pretty much down, where politicians have now hijacked it for their own purpose, and all kinds of other things, which is, I’m sorry, to mention this, James, which is one of the problems that James That’s right, countering, and he’s not making much headway, because people see it as a political program, okay, they got something, they’re giving you some this always hours. So it’s really, you know, creating difficulties for him to penetrate the community. So we’re trying to review that then just making it unique and simple.
Alright, so then, in terms of in this case, as a, for instance, then you’ve got your coordinator who would then go in and speak more in depth with that the person find out their needs to connect with people in the community. What are some of the connect with people in the community there? Who may be resources for that kind of soup? You know, even interrupt community support?
network? Yes.
So then you’re expanding the network there and the connections of your of your, of your organized, essentially, of your organization there? And then what would be the next step there to either? Do you have a plan, for example, for that beneficiary for the young boy? How old is he?
I think he’s about 22 or 23. Young man.
Do you have a plan then to to connect him to find ways to bring him from being a happy recipient of that, that benefit of the the church to including him in the work of your organization there?
Yes. So the plan is basically understand he learned how to repair shoes. So what the code is actually going to do is to find out exactly what he needs to be able to repair issues that he learned, then from there, also integrating into the making maybe like an ambassador of the organization, where we’ll be able to speak in terms of this is where I used to be. And this is where I am to some of his peers and colleagues, while also becoming resourceful in sponsoring, you know, because by the time he gets as close to some of the community resources, you also be a resource person, like, for example, if somebody is wheelchair is broken, why should that his wheelchair be repaired, he will be able to find out, okay, okay, this is where you can repair the wheelchair and all that giving them all those information. So we also have planned maybe the thought stage, after the second stage, the third one is to integrate in with the organization where he becomes a part not just the beneficiary, or recipient of he become famous, I need to for those also.
So that’s, that’s part of the thing there is for you to think through that process. And what does he need at each of those stages to transition from one to the next. And you’re asking him to speak on behalf to support him, you know, building a, you know, if he repairs shoes, then he could even help teach others how to repair. I mean, there’s there are a number of different ways. But then there’s that process of bringing him along from being simply a recipient, and not just, as you noted, not just, you know, a charity case, to where he becomes part and parcel of a whole system of expanding the capacity building all those people on the ground there. And, of course, a natural consequence of that is he’s going to I’m confident that he’ll speak well of the organization as soon as it’s just kind of natural. Yeah. So when you begin to see them as your allies and look at how you can bring them all the way along that that, then lots of other things can grab, it can gradually, maybe quickly unfold into into new plans and possibilities. Very good.
I can go Oh, okay.
Um,
yeah, I just
in terms of volunteers,
um,
I guess, like, where they’re coming from is.
Yeah, I know, it was, I’m still trying to, like, formulate the arc. But, you know, um, it’s usually young women who are coming to us, or they’re looking for, they’re really interested in international affairs, they’re really interested in becoming, having a career in international fairs and want to be part of the international community. And so our interns come. Because they want access, and they want to have a space to work at the United Nations representing, usually, they’re also passionate about something related to women. Obviously. We also have had a few young men in the in the year. So that’s one of the things so but it usually in general, women’s organizations tend to, right.
Not always know.
Um,
and then I guess, like, what brings them in what makes them want to apply tends to be
our approach
of internships, a lot of women like it’s not, I think it needs to be clarified, it needs it needs work. But in general, people like the idea that we’re creating mutually beneficial experiences for them, where, because the internship isn’t super, like, standardized or anything, they really have the creative space to make it what they need it to be in order to get college credit, which is a big thing, right? Um, and also allows them to be creative. So it really attracts a certain type of person who’s really independent and who really like knows what they want out of internship, rather than someone who’s usually like a freshman or someone who kind of wants to be guided. So that’s the kind of person that usually comes to us and what makes us unique, what they learn through working with us. Um, is kind of, yeah, this approach that we take To the United Nations. And this is the part that needs to be clarified is like to really be able to hone in and really show how we’re unique, I think because, um, in our approach to the issues that we focus on at the United Nations, so what I’m going to be talking about isn’t necessarily what is currently but is what I add. Okay. Um, yeah, and the point of view of the founder and on on these issues, in a way that’s really compelling and inspiring,
um,
and then how to involve them. So it’s, you know, they have their regular internship piece, but then how to involve them while they’re doing their internship is to, you know, connect them to the monthly or bi weekly meetings, status meetings of between the three un offices, so they get to connect to the
other offices, other interns there.
And in that way, even sometimes collaborate on different projects together. Like, for instance, the Vienna intern, and the Geneva intern right now created like a youth use initiative with women’s Federation, they completely created it, and they had their first event inaugural event A couple of weeks ago, I’m also one of them got involved in like a women’s Federation curriculum that’s happening. Um, so those kinds of things happen. And then they’re also they can get involved in like writing articles for women’s Federation, they’re involved in committees at the United Nations learning all these things. So those are different areas of engagement based upon their interests. And then the kind of experience need to have to support beyond that is kind of, well, what I want to see is that they get, they get to a point by the end of their internship, where they’re very clear about, like, they’re much more familiar with what how the gun works, and how things happen. And are also very clear about what women’s federations positions on these things are, and are inspired by that fact. And so because of that want to continue, um, you know, engaging, whether it be, you know, creating their own side, parallel and side events, as representatives of women’s Federation in their own time, or, yeah, just kind of like constantly volunteering, in some capacity with the Office still. and engaging. And there was one other thing and I can’t think
what it was,
oh, and also just like,
because they’re inspired by wanting to share that with like, their peers, right? To generate more kind of word of mouth recognitions.
Good. So having having this sense that there is this arc and development of and levels of engagement and going from interest and curiosity to a point where they are willing to make a, you know, a commitment, because now they really see feel, and understand through that experience, has that been, you know, a useful thought process for you in terms of clarifying what the
terms office can offer?
I think so. Because usually, we get stuck on the part where it’s like, um, we get interest because they can focus on what they’re interested in. We’re really
good about that. Right.
And I think the,
that’s where we get stuck is like figuring out, okay, from that point where to engage so that they can be exposed to.
So And in a way, it’s as simple as saying, Well, how do we get them from here to there? I mean, I mean, again, it’s not really rocket science. It’s just that people don’t do it. And even when people know that they should do it. They often don’t do it, and then they don’t schedule it. And then they don’t have it as one of their okrs. And then it doesn’t happen.
So it’s, again, a lot of stuff.
It is actually Luckily, it’s very simple. It was too complicated. Nobody would do it. But it is actually quite simple. But there are just key things is follow the line of thought all the way through to the conclusion. Do you really want to engage? Do you really want to get people totally behind you and on fire, then make a positive For them, make sure you schedule it in your program, so that you can help them get every step of the way. That’s your responsibility to them. I mean, well, it’s your responsibility, actually, it’s your responsibility for your organization to have that system there, your responsibility to them is to is to be accountable, help them, you know, help them in your process of saying, you know, here, this is an opportunity to hear, now you can do this, now you can, you can’t make them do that through that journey. But unless you’ve got that, unless you’re being responsible, on behalf of the organization for putting that in place, then you can’t treat them with that respect. And, and, and accountability. That is look, you can move along, you can do more, you can do more, you can accomplish more, you can become more of an impact high impact person yourself, when you go this path. And so your responsibility for the organization is to set up these systems, and then your responsibility to the individuals is more one of accountability, and giving them that opportunity and asking them questions. Do you want to join us for this? When you come in? When are you going? You know, that’s, and you’re not, you know, they’re free to say yea or nay. But it’s your responsibility to get out there and to say, give them this call to action, let them know that this is an option, inform them, you know, all the way along the line. But when you do this, understanding that they’ve got a journey, then you can see where your responsibility lies, and providing those connecting points, you’re not asking them to take a stride that is too big that nobody’s going to take, then how many people are going to go from the stage where they’re just slightly curious and interested to the point where that, yes, go women’s Federation, it’s unlikely that’s going to happen. So you know, as much as we’d like it to be that easy, snap out in the fingers, all that sort of stuff. But that’s your responsibility for the oil, you know, that’s the responsibility for, and then your responsibility to them as human beings. Is, is to be account help them help with their accountability in the organization. And it’s their choice. And, you know, if somebody doesn’t want to work with women’s Federation, you’re kind of teaching, you’ve got good luck. You know, too much energy involved in it. But creating the opportunity for them to really get 100% engaged. Yes, that is your responsibility.
So I struggled a little. Yep. Good.
Like realize that, like we like in the journey that you will, I forgot the word. But the journey that you mapped, that’s, like, we’re with the allies, we’re kind of past the challenge part, because we’re facing towards the same goal. Mm hmm. So the journey would be more like to prove to them and to show them that we want to work as a team, we don’t want them to be just service providers. Mm hmm. So if we are going to
ask
specific questions to create like a questionnaire to calculate the emissions, we are going to make them part of they can take part in creating the questionnaire. And when we are elaborating the strategy, we can go to them to elaborate like the part that they’re involved in. So we wouldn’t be asking any, anything new of them other than the word and that they already doing, we want to amplify that and just maybe create like a communication channel that they didn’t have before in order to work as one enough to
separate.
So we would have to involve them in the process in order to create in order for them to make the decision to create the channel, the communication channel and have a good experience.
Right so and
in your you’re speaking about the client, the potential client,
the know the allies,
your other your service providers, you’re
the foundation’s the local local companies or local of food vendors, like not big supermarkets or the companies that recycle or that handle trash, like separate types of garbage.
So, I guess part of what what you need to help me understand a little bit more when you say you’ve got your local vendors is so again, your your project here your program your business is to set up Can you go over again, I guess I’m not really clear enough on your, on your kind of your overall business plan or your, your business.
Yeah, it’s to create a consulting company. Okay, be the carbon footprint, okay, that focused on events. So the idea is to calculate the emissions, and in order to neutralize them, you have to plant trees, through or we did, we’re planning to do this through foundations, we have to separate the trash as best as we can, in order to recycle what it’s possible to recycle or reuse or handle it correctly. And not like just let it fall and burn. And also to have as much local products as possible. They like for example, if it’s a concert, and the artist wants coconut water, instead of buying coconut water from Costco, there’s a Mexican company that sells it
any and we can get from them instead.
So, and
I got so then your, as a consulting as a consultants, you are going to then reach out to the the artists,
we are gonna reach out to the
promoters to the producing company.
Okay. And then they take you on as a consultant for their, for their artists. Yeah.
And also, we are contemplating corporate events, right. And that way, we can work also the producing company that makes the event can can be an ally. And we can be in like for that for the company that’s hosting the event, maybe like their Christmas party, they we will be like an additional service. And the company that’s producing the entire event can also have some earnings from that.
So again, just for clarification, so then you you become like, you’ve got the the company that that the main companies that organize these events, and then you become an option of that logic company, for those who want to do things to reduce their carbon footprint. So then you would be the the consultants who would come on to help that process happen for that event. Okay, done it. I’m a little bit more clear now than what I was before.
Yeah, we need idea.
Yeah. So then. And so then you’re at the moment your stakeholders are, you’re talking about those that would be working with you, like on the trash recycling the coconut water providers, and all of the other vendors that you would have them as to say, this is an alternative way to you, you know, going to Costco when you when you want to really do this carbon footprint thing and so that then you can promote yourself as a socially responsible organization or entertainer, whatever. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Cool. So I’m all clear now that you’re about your what you’re doing there. And then so your your Ark again, just if you would go over that with me again.
We talking about, about the say the vendors and we are alikom allied company. Yep. We would have since we’re already going like facing to the same goal. So we would, it would begin with presenting them the project because they’re already some producing companies that are sustainable in their own their own. But this gives them a chance to work with any event. Who has an interest in being sustainable. So we would begin with when we have to create a like a questionnaire, or Bree, who’s tenderize with all her clients so they can fill out and we can calculate their their emissions. So we would make them part an active part on creating questionnaire to have the right information that they need. And also, once we have like the brief from the client from the event, we would involve them in the planning of the strategy.
So then you’ve got your, you’re talking about to two groups here, you’ve got your all of your vendors, and you have to gather all the information for your you’ve got to get that clarity as to how they can reduce this, the footprint by utilizing that particular component. Right. And then you then you just said also your, with your clients, the who were using the the event provider, developing a strategy with them was that
develop this strategy with the vendors also.
Since they are going to be the ones that are going to handle the trash are going to recycle that to develop the strategy tried to do with them that way we work as a team and not as like, I’m hiring you for your services. And that’s it.
So a strategy as a team, do you mean like developing a partnership agreement? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Because you’re not going to go and move the trash around, you’re just going to be pulling them in, you’re going to be kind of like I an aggregator of sorts, pulling together a certain group of people who do actually do the work. But collectively, then you can provide a unique service to the to the other clients. So yeah, so you’ve got to do that. So they’re you Your, your journey for those your vendor, vendor stakeholders, just to try to, because sometimes when you say clients, I get confused between the clients of
mine would be the event itself. Yeah.
So not the event client, but the vendor client of the vendor? Oh, yeah. This is this is just language and clarity. So then you you’ve got to start with them, where they don’t know who you are, what you do. And yeah, you’ll eventually get your brand and maybe eventually, you’ll you’ll get known and all that sort of stuff. But at the moment, you begin with, you begin with people. And you have to look for people who are interested in in being involved in that kind of low, you know, carbon footprint issue, not everybody is and then you have to take them from, oh, you’re a possibility to how they would agree to work with you. And in fact, if they come across anybody, they go, who they happen to know, you know, they may be an individual, but then that they would ideally refer other others back to you themselves. Right? Yep. For for events. So you’ve got to you’ve got to take them from that place where they first encounter you, and you want to and and you’re serving process can be one of those four stages as they begin to get to know you. And then you’ve got to take them to the, to the space where they’ve had an experience with you. And they’re totally committed to what you’re doing supportive. And, and whatever. So that’s was that the journey that you were looking at?
Yeah, with a little more detail into how to get them more involved. Yeah. transparent in our processes and involving them in all of the process, not just in the beginning of the end,
right. Yeah. That’s what it has to be. Yeah. Wonderful. So that’s the stuff you’ve been thinking about already?
Uh, yeah. I we haven’t. Like we have talked about this, me and my associate. But we haven’t put it like down on paper.
Yeah. Yeah, and some of this stuff down on paper. But anyway, having the clarity of that, of where, where to take them, the fact that you’re going to bring them just being aware that you’re going to bring them on that journey. Anyway, that’s, that’s great. Because I think the clearer you are about that’s part of what you have to do is bring them from encountering you. And sometimes it’s as simple as just getting back to them any number of times so that they start to be familiar with you get to know you get to trust you and then you can actually bring them Some business down the road, then then that will feed into that loop. Yeah. But again, I guess the main thing that I, that I wanted to stress, and you won’t have to listen to me for too much longer guys, but is is that there is this journey and they do need assistance along this journey. And it is good to be aware of that. Because once even just being aware of it, then you start naturally, you almost naturally start to do things a little bit differently. And don’t forget to all along the way, it’s a little bit more natural in that kind of a situation where you’ll, you’ll reach them to the point where that endpoint is going to be, you want to make an agreement with them that they will be a vendor. And these are the conditions. And when you you know, when you sell, you know, you’ve been, you know, you’ll have your you’ll figure out your partnership agreement with that and how that all works out. You’ll have your legal agreements and all that sort of stuff down the road. But yeah, taking them from that point of of curiosity to completion. Yeah, what will that take? Cool. Very good. Hey, so I know I do better better understand I had broad brushstrokes, of understanding of what you had before, but I’m much more clear now. I think that’s wonderful. Wonderful. Yeah. cute, little good little niche that you’re working on? Yeah. Very good. Yeah.
So, Amanda?
Yes. Well, in my case,
I choose, as my stakeholders, young women, I know I need to like to define or to think like, more clearly on which type of young women I will be working with. So I think that will be something I need to work on and decide like, what what do I want to what do I want to do with them? And what what are they needs and what how do I want to help them. So how I thought about the journey was first get to talk to them, to understand their needs and concerns, by providing them a safe space where they can share their thoughts that in order to understand their resources and their limitations, then once I know which are the resources, I will be able to provide them with other useful tools, to give them the opportunity to obtain new obtain new learning, I want them to start digging and innovating on what else they can be, they can be doing. And then so I will be working on creating moments where they can interact with other people, and where they can convince themselves have the relevance they have and the importance of thinking to overcome themselves. And in that way, I will be able to create a community of support and encouragement to move more where they can ensure they achieve their achievements on their stories. And they can get like constant feedback on what on what they are doing, and maybe get some hands on on what else they can do maybe like network with other people, and to be able to continue to grow in their projects or ideas or even themselves.
So that’s kind of the journey I.
So I hear you know, there’s the initial stage, and then there’s then there’s getting interaction, and then the formation of community which a safe community what my question, as I heard you speaking about that is in terms of the objective for this group, of course, you know, the, the,
the precise, you know, because young women as a big group,
about half of the world
but you now adamian on I’m sure you mean more in in Mexico, but even there there’s you know, are you looking at helping a so young women who are interested in developing certain skills in terms of their career, are they looking at personal effectiveness skills? Are you looking at people who have had some social issues, challenges traumas, you you’re narrowing down your group at all? Are you looking at that? Because at the end, part of what is important is to be able to give people an understanding of where they can Be themselves, you know what their future self can be. So, you know, just an effective woman in the world, you might be thinking of woman leaders, so you might hold up. Find amazing women in in in Mexico, you might find amazing internationally as your goals and objectives. But I was just curious about you thinking, career, educational, you know, which which fear?
Well, I think I’m thinking on students, maybe high school students are college students, because Mexico, the rate of students that once they have finished your high school, continue with our professional career really drops down in women. So I may, I may want to, to think well, I would like to work with them in order for them to know that they have other opportunities, but also that if maybe they won’t have the resources to have like a formation, like to go to a greater university or like a particular a lot public instead of another kind of university will type of university to to let them know that they can make some changes in your community, and that they can be working, maybe on smaller projects, for them to feel that they are really making a change, and then role in themselves I’m thinking on, on how important it is for it is for them to, to continue learning and to continue growing in order for them to be able to share more with our community. So I will be thinking on on students like high school college or college students that will like to have social projects or are thinking on how to make a social impact under community, like their local community, even though it may be Yes, more one or a bigger one, just to make them sure that first they need to continue with their studies in order for them to be better, or to Yeah, to be able to do talk with other people to make them not feel like less than others. And then once they have like these elements, that they can be working on small projects, and they will be they can be like changemakers on their community.
So the things that would attract them to what you’re thinking off, would be. So the things that would attract them would be that they could be changemakers. in that community, the the kind of the back door of this is continue education. I mean, because it seems like you’re not going to go in the in the front door is not going to be keep going with your education, as much as this is what you can do. This is the difference you can make. let’s let’s let’s do this. Oh, by the way, it’s really important that you keep learning and educating. And then you get them very connected to that process as a natural part of them seeing that this their personal development and capacity to be those changemakers that really drive them is that they go to coupon learning one way or another and then you provide them. Okay.
So exactly, I think that what I what I want, or what I have seen, like in the last month, is that here in Mexico, for example, really young women are moving in the streets, and they’re trying to call attention from our leaders and our politicians, and they are really, they really want to make change. But sometimes that just feels or they or they may think that that’s just one way. And that eight occasion is the other. Like if they really want to work on something, or they have learned that maybe their parents told them like they need to work like when they’re really, really young. And they start thinking that, okay, so I have a job, or I’m working on something or I’m making something. But if you really want to make a change, if you really want to make a really great impact, you need to be prepared. And that will give you more tools in order for you to assess what you really want. So that will be like the way I will have to start convince them, while convincing them I’m talking with them to be able to make this
change if so then the the concept of their future self is as is as changemakers as people who are really making a difference. And it doesn’t matter where you come from. Education then is is is a very essential part for everybody. And whether it’s formal or, or informal education. We’ve got to constantly constantly constantly educate ourselves. So yeah, anyway. Cool. Very cool. So as you see, yeah, and what’s important there and what I just tried to draw out there is is just to differentiate between sometimes What really needs to happen isn’t enough of a carrot in front of people. You know, if you stand there and say, get an education, get an education, they’re going to go. I’m tired of school, I don’t want any more education. But to be a change later, yes, you know, and to inspire and to speak to them as those change leaders, and then it’s very natural, you know, can you do this, and this is this will help you to do this. And this will allow you to do that you build this skill and this capacity, then you can really be amazing. Yeah. So just differentiating there, in terms of how you help bring people along that experience to your goal and objective is to keep people educated, and moving forward. But sometimes, the the ways to do that, you know, it’s a little bit of like putting the bait on, how can I, it’s probably the wrong analogy, but you know, but, but you do kind of need to get people interested in something. And then, you know, because we don’t always want to be a good business leader, what do you really need, you really need to understand financials and financial budgeting. And that’s one thing you do have to know, sooner or later. Most people do you want to go and become the first business budgeter in the world? Maybe not. It’s not what’s going to inspire people to do what is needed to be able, and part of what is needed is to be able to, you know, raise funds, do the things that you need to do and get all of that stuff going. But your purpose, your purpose and your objective is something that is much more human oriented, you know, aspirationally oriented, because in the end, that’s that’s that’s the goal. Wonderful, wonderful. Fernanda. I certainly hope that, that anything that we have gone over in these in these couple of days will help even little bits and pieces here and there with with your work and everybody’s work as you move forward. What I’m going to do is I’m going to give you just like a five minute bio break, and then it’s already 130 we’ve only got another half hour, and I just want to come back and then we’ll just have a like a closing session just you know, just share our last thoughts. Any any last questions that there might be just, I just want to make one more suggestion as to what, what what to do when you leave here, and and then that’ll be it. That’ll be at the end of our three days together. And so, five minute bio break. See you in five
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So welcome back to the very last part of our three days together at change leaders master plan live. So you’ve got a slightly different master plan than most people get for their, for their endeavors for the enterprises for their businesses. But I hope that these three days really have I’ve, you know, at least emphasize, totally adequately, probably more than more than probably you need perhaps, but that to keep you oriented around that, that human element core. But also to recognize how, as we do this, we are, it’s like tapping into atomic energy. The human being is amazing resources of humanity, of potentially, utterly remarkable. The world the cosmos is enormously huge and fascinating and just totally miraculous. I mean, I, whether the years I spent on the ocean, and you just see so many scenes and moments, and to know that we know, but a fraction of what the ocean is, there’s so much life in the ocean, the technology to go to the depths of the ocean is more challenging the technology that takes us to space, it’s more difficult, the pressures are so much more hard to handle, in the depths of the ocean, one atmosphere difference between here and the vacuums of space, hundreds of atmospheres of pressure, by the time you get down to the bottom of the Mariana Trench and things like that. So even to explore the oceans are amazing. I don’t know how many of you have had those moments at night time when the sky is is dark, because there’s no moon and then and then a dolphin will swim by and leave it for wrestle trail and the water that is just pure magic. Or you’ve been down on the water and you meet this big thing that is twice your size. And you look at them, and they look at you, and you hope that they don’t want to eat you. fascinating, fascinating world. And then there’s space, but there’s, you know, even this inner space of humanity is just remarkable. So what we have access to potentially is just truly amazing when we pay attention to it. And when we find the ways that you know, organizational systems, we can build in the mindsets, the heart to the practical systems that allow us to really notice, and then tap in and then utilize in a good way not use up and throw out and spit out and throw away one another but to genuinely respect and enhance the lives of those we engage. And you are the people that want to do that. And you are exactly the people that I love to work with. And, and so I’m so honored to work with. So thank you for choosing to spend these days these hours with me and and, and spinning wheels. Different kinds of spinning wheels, we weren’t just spinning our wheels, we were enjoying spinning our wheels. And before we go, I’ve got one more wheel spin. And one more little gift to all of us at the end of that we’ll spin but before we get to that final moment when we can celebrate together in a very simple way. I’d like to see as we know we’ve got just a few minutes just if anybody’s got any final closing remarks Any thoughts? experiences from the last few days? Because I don’t know when we’ll see one another again I’m sure we’ll you know individually but collectively, we may not be together especially in this this special little group. We we may not have this moment again. So just unmute yourself. The mic is yours.
Or thank you very much again Karen and thank you grace. For them the Neverland James is an awesome 3d. One question I will actually get with you was that keeping the Facebook group open and nice You can also interact to me there because I really would like to see and also know, how you all are doing, and how you’re making progress as to what you’re doing. Because I believe it’s been a great weekend, things you share that really want to be a part of it, I swear, as much as I can give out in the lead to less parties that I have, I will make myself available to you, fulfilling your dreams, your visions, and your goals is just been it’s, I can’t there’s no objective to qualify, basically, just to see the wealth of knowledge, the spirit, the innovation that came out from each and every one of you these few days, he’s just been remarkable. He just been amazing to stay with me. So I am really, really taught and I would like to stay in touch. And I know that then I know, when you carry on when you ask the question, when we did the fact finding thing to think before you roll out the program. One of the things I also suggest is what were you going to give us a certificate of participation? So I don’t know if you forget that if you still have plans for that as well.
For us, okay, so number one, the Facebook group, because there’s going to be this continuum of activity in terms of the impact and influence formula, which is a little bit different than this weekend. Right. So, like Fernanda and grace, we’re not. I mean, Grace was Fernanda and Daniella, were not part of the impact and influence formula. So what I will do is form a change leaders master plan live Facebook page, so that we can, we can, and then in time that group will grow. Okay. And and the reason why having kind of like the slightly different groups is because those groups have been have a different foundation of experience. And so then, so then there is that, so I will create that, it’s very easy to set up that and do and then I will invite each of you and it’ll be a closed group, only those who participate in these programs will be invited. And so the next time I do something similar to this, I will invite people to that group. And so then that group can grow. And then you can know, as I said, you can know that those people have had a similar kind of experience. And so that gives us always a common base on which to, to exchange and engage, which is often very helpful. Because sometimes when you get into a group, that’s very, very big, very broad, very international without a common base of experience, it’s, it’s it can be hard to figure out where to go in your relationship. But I think this will provide you with a good base. And then in terms of the certificate of completion that will be for the impact and influence formula. Yes, you will get that. So that will be available in the membership area in your, by the time we’ve finished these three days, because this was all party, in a sense, part and parcel of that, and your participation in that we’ll we’ll get that to you. Again. Sorry, it might not be tomorrow, but yes, you will get that. So does that answer those couple of questions? Yeah.
Well, I may say, I feel really grateful to have been with you these days, and to have the opportunity to make you until listen well to hear on what you’re doing and what are things that motivate you and the purposes to learning a bit of yourselves. I think that I must say that these conversations really inspired me to realize that we are social makers can make a difference. If we focus on committing ourselves on a purpose and a group of people on learning, which should be the tools or the Yeah, the mechanisms that we can use inner for us to to really construct or build a a projects that that will praise that will impact other people because as you were saying like it’s also a great job and and it needs to go through a path and a process in order for us to really achieve good results. And I really love the way that we were like really talking about people because for me, it has been something that I have like noticed before Another in other experiences that I may have. But right now, it just reinforces that we really need to take care on people on to know how, how we can learn from them and how we can be able to provide them with, with resources and with learnings from ourselves. So let me say I’m taking a lot of learning. And I will be reflecting a lot in the following days about what I have been talking about. Also, I’m really encouraged on following that project that I will I have been thinking on on really finding the ways to establish the pillars and the fundamentals to start working on it. So hopefully, I will be able to share with you later, and how I’ve been doing. So Well, finally, I will be really happy to get in touch with you. And I really wish you all the best luck in all the things you’re doing on the bridge are working.
Thank you. And I think the date that I I’m going to be following up with you on the on the work and your progress is January 1, right?
Yes.
Wonderful, we will, we will at least check in. I mean, I don’t know where we’ll be on January 1, but maybe maybe even just around the second or the third or something like that, we can have a quick check in face. You know, I mean, zoom meeting together and just say hi, and happy new year and see how everybody is doing and we can so we can just touch base them. So I’ll set that up for you all. Okay.
Yes, I will be really happy today.
And I want to thank you so much for inviting me to this, that I was talking to Fred earlier. And I was telling her like I invited you, but I gave you as much as information as I had, which is is an entrepreneur, a social entrepreneur and activist course. Let’s take it and see where that takes us. And it was so worth it for so many reasons. And at some point, I was a little depth doubtful if my project was like, in the same line. And I thought about it last night, actually. And I realized that even to talk about the environment, it’s a social issue. So I think, yeah, it fits.
Absolutely.
And I like the thing that I took the most from today is when on the first exercise we did on the habit like how I would like people to feel around me. I kind of caught one phrase it each one said that really kind of resonated with me. But said something about not being judged, which is something very commonly heard, but so hard to really execute on every aspect or your own of your life. And, Karen, you said, innovation comes when people are allowed to have ideas.
And we should credit
create organizations that encourage that.
And
if funny, I you said, make people feel free to disagree. And I think that’s that was just like, brilliant statement for me that and to say what you mean and mean what you say like that together was just something that it’s it’s not usually put into words. Like it’s something that you expect to have a conversation but not usually said like that. But the one that I like really, really resonated with was, again, Grace, reading my mind saying Feel free to be imperfect. And that was like, Yeah, like it Okay, we can make mistakes, and we can admit to it, and then we can ask for help. And also, I think James said like give people a sense of belonging,
which is
like the word belong is for some reason has come up a lot busier for me. And I even wrote a very good book about it, if anyone wants to read belong by Raja Agarwal. It’s an amazing book about finding a sense of belonging and creating your own community. So that’s like the main thing that I take from today.
And
also like the thing that stuck the most with me, like when then if I tell someone about this course probably the first thing I want to talk about is the responsibilities. So thank you, Marilyn, for that. Which it was like, it is very it was very cool to give it a name like to To deepen to see to see like the deeper side of a commonly said word. So I’m just like very, very happy about this reading. Thank you so much.
Yeah, um,
well, I think it’s been a great three days in six weeks. Thanks, Karen, for all of this. It’s been very enlightening. Um,
yeah.
Sorry. Again, like that This came like fell on like, the, the week, that’s been the craziest week ever. So I’m apologize for not being as present as I wanted to all the time. But, um, yeah, I think this is such a, it was, yeah, both the six week course, and this three day one have been really great. I think the thing that really, I am very inspired by overall is the approach that you take to all of this, because I’m, at least, like, just studying international relations and setting politics. And now working at the United Nations, like I have become very cynical. But like, literally nobody cares. And they just kind of want to talk, and they just want to be right. And it’s like a game of just winning the debate. That’s what it feels like, a lot of the time. And so coming into this, especially the impact of influence, like I was a little bit gun shy, actually, like, impact and influence sounds like how to manipulate. Um,
but
I think like, really quickly, it kind of centered on this. Yeah, the human element, this piece of like, how to invent involve, like, real passions, real, like a genuine hopes, into creating something, um, you know, for yourself, like to establish yourself as that, but then also, in a way that it’s going to be functional. And also you can include other people in order to make a greater impact. Um, and so, I just thought that was
awesome.
Yeah. And, um,
yeah, and I think just each it, each of you have really,
I’m just excited to, like, see what people are doing to like, sometimes it’s, it’s difficult to get outside of the sphere that you’re in, right? And so into this more like, social entrepreneur kind of area, rather than just advocacy groups is really nice for me. It gives me hope. So, yeah, and definitely happy to connect happy to.
Yeah. Future.
So thank you, Grace, I’m, you know, if there’s, if I’ve helped even one person avoid a little cynicism, then that is a wonderful thing. And, and absolutely in the UN environment. That’s not, it’s not hard to do. I’ve seen some of the
I still remember and I guess it was somewhere around.
I think it was somewhere around about 2004, almost into 2005. When it was the, the, I guess at that stage, it was the 60th anniversary, I think it was of the UN and one of the up and coming un ambassadors from from Singapore, the brilliant young man. And I still remember his last speech at the UN. And it was so painful to watch, because he had, it was like he had lost his hope. And he was so it was just painful to watch that kind of loss of somebody like that, who left, he went back and he still did stuff in Singapore and still did great stuff, but he just the institution as a whole, he hadn’t quite found a way to keep that, that heart and hope and humanity within it. And it’s not easy, it’s not easy to do, because it is a big piece of political machinery. And you can get ground up in it. And that’s all the more reason why we need to connect with our, our human core, our human roots, and, and to build those teams of people and allies and friends who really can support one another, encourage one another and be the small groups that can move forward. And so that I hope that you know, even as a Maybe this weekend was inspiring as we move on into, you know, into the days and weeks, and there’ll be ups and downs and whatever, maybe just, you know, we can we can make a habit of January 1 each year or something like that we can just meet and catch up and see where one another is. But we’ll start with January 2021. Because I’ve already made that commitment to connecting with you checking on you for your see how your objective for this quarter your objectives for this quarter are going. And and that we can meet at that time and just touch base, see how one another’s doing. We’ll give you a day or so to get over your your your January 1 celebrations. And they happen all over the world, you know, different odd times. But you know, we will meet again. So Marilyn, I don’t know whether you wanted to jump in and say anything at all. I know you’ve been in the background a little bit for the last last little while. But thank you for joining us at the close.
Oh, just thank you all for for letting me sit in I missed all of yesterday had appointments that I had previously. Set had to be at. But fascinating to watch you, each of you taking your journey, knowing something Karen’s lifelong journey. So she’s imparted with you in a very condensed manner. A lot of a lot of experience. Great to see that you’ll piggyback on that and take leaps forward. That’s that’s the whole idea.
But thank you for letting me share a little part of it with you. And
good luck on all that you do. keep you in mind and heart. Take care.
So I think that just about brings us Oh perfectly to two o’clock. So what I am going to do for this last little bit is just very, very simple. Two things. Here we go. We’re going to do one last. It might end up two shares. Look what’s here. Let’s see who is the one who gets to push the Next button. And you don’t even know what the next button is. Oh, James.
Are you there?
So I don’t know whether Jane Yep, James is there. So one way or another, James gets to push the Next button. And he doesn’t know that he’s going to push the button. So I’ll push the button on his behalf. I was going to have to push a button on on somebody else’s behalf anyway. And I hope I can give me a moment. And this is what we’re going to do. Ah, and as we
so I don’t know whether it’s got any sounds. I don’t think it has any sounds but that marks the end end of our time together. Thank you so much, everybody. why doesn’t everybody just turn on their on their microphone and say, See you later. Goodbye. Lots of love and hugs and all the rest. And we’ll see you again next time.
Thank you, everyone.
mela grace. Amanda, Marilyn and James. Thank you very much. Thank you, everyone.
Everyone was great meeting you.
Yeah. And James said, Thank you Please do push on behalf. James. I took you were the one who closed this out. James, thank you so much for joining us all the way from Nigeria. Thank you. Okay. God bless everybody. Stay well.
It was a pleasure.
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